What is untrue about this email? And does a two party system really mean

[Zinfandel]

we have freedom without no corruption, exploitation or lies...should we at least have the opportunity to vote for others (like Dean, Kucinich, etc.) if we are to call ourselves "FREE"??? We know 70% of the country is liberal on social and economic issues, yet, we have no free press...the ones filling the cable and airwaves with garbage 24/7 and keeping the masses in the corporate line...
Do people really want to hide their heads in the sand and look no further and go back to partying and saying it's all right now, we have Kerry?

I will vote for the "Democrat" Kerry because I've always been a good and loyal and supporting democrat.

However, this email from the very liberal Greg Palast, seems to mimic my thoughts and hard felt truth that I want to run away from....

So, what is untrue about this email? Instead of just wishing it weren't true and blindly wanting to get rid of the fascist Bush administration at any cost, which of course we ALL want!!!

JOHNNIE BEEN GOOD?
> by Greg Palast
> The millionaires are dancing now. The balloons are falling on
John Kerry, John Edwards and their nuclear families.
>
> They're playing "Johnnie B. Goode" over the loudspeakers. Democrats are
hopping up and down like JFK never went to Dallas; like Bill Clinton didn't
blow it for us; like there's a chance to bring the boys home alive; like
America can crawl out of Dick Cheney's bunker and look at the sun again.
>
> But has Johnnie Kerry been good so far?
>
> He told us tonight about some poor bastard in Ohio whose job evaporated
when his company unbolted the equipment and sent it south. Hey, Johnnie,
didn't you vote for NAFTA?
>
> I applauded when he said the White House should stop treating teachers
and school kids like fugitives from justice and help them out. But, Johnnie,
didn't you vote for George Bush's "No Child's Behind Left" assault on public
education?
>
> Then there was that little story meant to show us all he is a Man for All
Seasons, above party politics. "I broke with many in my own party," he said,
"to vote for a balanced budget, because I thought it was the right thing to
do." No, John, it wasn't. It was craven political cowardice, going with the
anti-government hysteria that put a knife into the heart of the programs you
cried over tonight.
>
> He told us the sad story of the poor homeless guy huddled in front of the
White House. Is this the same John Kerry that voted for Clinton's welfare
"reform"? That put a five-year limit on food stamps, making child starvation
the law of the USA. At least Ronald Reagan offered ketchup as a vegetable.
>
> Kerry made good use of the cash he saved on feeding the poor. "I fought
to put a 100,000 cops on the street." Hey, thanks, John.
>
> But my absolute favorite of the night was when Kerry told us, "Saying
there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq doesn't make it so. As
President, I will ask hard questions and demand hard evidence."
>
> But, as Senator, you didn't. No questions asked: you just closed your
eyes and voted for the lie. I know it, and you sure as hell know it.
>
> And you mentioned a time or two tonight that you served your country. Got
yourself a medal for it, too. I'm sorry, but shooting a Vietnamese teenager
in the back who was defending his country doesn't make you a hero.
>
> Yesterday, my buddy Michael Moore and I held a press conference in
Boston. Some joker of a reporter asked Mr. Fahrenheit about Kerry's gung-ho
keep'm-in-Baghdad position. Michael fudged and fidgeted. I felt bad for him
as he faked the answer, "President Kerry would not have sent us to war." But
as Senator, Kerry did.
>
> I've got an easier job than Michael: as a journalist I don't have to
defend any candidate. Nevertheless, I know that my Democratic Party friends
will want to ship me to Guantanamo for asking, "You believe in Kerry, but
does he believe in you?"
>
> Remember, comrades, I'm only asking questions, here. I'm sorry if the
answers make you uncomfortable about your favorite rich guy.
>
> I know what you're going to say. "Isn't Bush worse?"
>
> By a long shot. Asking if Kerry is as bad as Bush is like asking if a
slap in the face is as painful as a brick to the skull.
>
> But don't you get tired of being slapped around by privileged politicos
on hypocrisy hyper-drive -- then having to applaud? It can't be pleasant, no
matter how many pretty balloons they drop on your head.
>
> ------------------
> www.GregPalast.com

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[xchrom]

1. ahhhh -- the fine print

[Zinfandel]

2. Thank you, brave soul!

[MisterP]

3. Palast is, well, exquisite in general

The Best Democracy Money Can Buy is good, though you have to take it in little bites to keep your blood pressure down.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. If 70% of the country is liberal then they sure the fuck aren't voting

and are acting like babies sitting home and pretending there is nothing to vote for when their vote could pull the country back from the right.

It's real simple...if people are going to boycott voting until the perfect candidate manifests him/her self then they get the fucking government they deserve...the only problem is that they drag those of us willing to get off our ass and vote down with them.

I am SICK of hearing that we leave it to the middle and they don't represent us...guess what? The fucking middle fucking VOTES!! They don't wait for perfection...they get chocolate or vanilla in front of them THEN THEY CHOOSE.

If only those that wish they had something to vote for would TRY it...they'd probably GET something to VOTE for once their numbers were felt.

and for the THIRD time today, here is what is inaccurate about it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2116708&mesg_id=2117552

[Zinfandel]

5. Yes, and we have a free press?

Throughly explaining the issues, deceit and cover ups or just pushing a two party corporate system and keeping people divided for corporate exploitation?

You tell me!!! Am I a communist for thinking this way?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. Well our independent press seems to be tearing a page from them

and where did you get the communist shit from? A post that had something specifically to do with someone else?

[Zinfandel]

9. Fucking relax and don't get so "shocked" because one doesn't agree

with you.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. Wow..that was substantive

Don't get so shocked because someone asks you what the hell you meant.

[EstimatedProphet]

6. Well put!

This election is not the solution to the shift to the right. It's a step.
Maybe I do get tired of being slapped in the face, but 1)it's a step away from being hit with a brick, 2)it's a step toward not getting slapped, and most importantly, 3)WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO PICK GETTING HIT WITH A BRICK?!? If those are our only choices, AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THE CHOICES ARE, then why is there a debate about it?

[xchrom]

8. who the hell is going to pick getting hit with a brick?

50%

[EstimatedProphet]

11. Well...

Hmmm.
that's what my point was about knowing beforehand what the choices are. but you have a point: there's IMO more loonies out there now than before.

[Zinfandel]

12. "If 70% of the country is liberal then they sure the fuck aren't voting"

With only 50% of the people voting that is a problem, isn't it?

Who doesn't vote of the 70%? The homeless, the extremely poor, workers, people forced off the voting polls, etc...the millions and millions of people who help make up that 70% along with the 51% who vote democrat!!!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

13. There are also a lot of lazy people simply not asserting their right

Failure to exercise a known right is completely nuts..oh..and the poor and working class showed up at the polls where I work...and your part is to canvass your neighborhood and get people involved...if everyone lifts a finger the job is easier.

[Shoeempress]

14. Palast is liar and here's the proof

Perhaps you should consider Mr. Palast’s statements with some understanding of what really happened and actually question his assertions.

First, no child left behind seemed like a great idea, who knew the God Only People (GOP) didn’t have any intention of actually paying for this.

Turning to the 1985 Gramm-Rudman Deficit Reduction Act, which Kerry did vote for. I don’t know how old you are, but the largest deficit prior to the current one was in 1986 and on 12/31/1985 the deficit was $1,945,941,616,459.88. This was during Saint Ronald’s presidency when he was expending our money on his wacko star wars defense and was redistributing our country’s wealth to the Defense Industry (Wait a minute, that’s what their doing now!).

I also have really enjoyed Mr. Palast’s re-writing his own questioning of the Iraq War. I provide here a relevant portion of an interview with Mr. Palast on March 1, 2003:

S. Anthony Lappe of GNN interviews Greg Palast

March 1, 2003
There's info written in just weeks ago on Iraq and the Bomb. How does Bush know so much about Saddam's bomb? Well, according to documents from a defecting Gulf states diplomat, Saudi Arabia slipped $7 billion to Saddam for his nuclear Tinker Toys - which was just okey-dokey with the Reagan-Bush administration, because at the time Saddam was given the loot, he was Bush's favorite dictator. Don't forget that before the Axis of Evil there was the Unicycle of Evil, Iran. As long as Saddam only slaughtered Iranians, he was Bush's buddy. In other words, we know Saddam has bomb fixings because, via the Saudis, WE GAVE IT TO HIM

Here’s the address: http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=196&row=1

So only 18 days before the beginning of the war in Iraq, Mr. Palast “knew” there were Nuclear weapons in Iraq, because the US gave them to Iraq. So, he wasn’t questioning the war at that time and he was not privy to the “intelligence” provided by (or should I say, made up by) the Bush Regime.

Further, Mr. Palast states “shooting a Vietnamese teenager in the back does not make you a war hero”. And he is correct. But that is not what Kerry did, and that is not why he is a war hero.

On March 13, 1969
Patrolling the Bay Hap river, with five other swift boats Kerry's group is ambushed. Kerry is hit in the arm by an exploding mine while another boat is blown out of the water. Kerry turns his boat back toward the ambush to rescue survivors. "We were still under fire, and he was wounded at the time" recalled Jim Rassmann. Kerry pulled the Green Beret into his boat and was awarded a third Purple Heart and a Bronze Star "For heroic achievement great personal courage under fire."

Here’s the address: http://www.independentmedia.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=7073&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported

Where is the proof that John Kerry ever shot anyone in the back or is Palast confusing the former Senator from Nebraska, Bob Kerrey?

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Sen. Bob Kerrey says he feels "anguish and guilt" about the women and children accidentally killed during a nighttime mission he led in Vietnam, but he denies a report that the civilians were deliberately shot.

Here's the address: http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/04/25/kerrey.blitzer.02/

Looks like the wrong Kerrey to me!

Maybe before you swallow any lie told to you, you should 1. question the Source, 2. question the facts and 3. actually do your own research. Otherwise you will be conned again and again.

Say, did I tell you about the great deal I have on land in Florida?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

15. OMG he DID confuse John Kerry with Bob Kerrey! Excellent catch!

Welcome to DU!

[The Backlash Cometh]

17. But, but...

This one of those moments when you just have to sit it out and wait for the dust to settle.

[xchrom]

22. who knew the gop had no intention of actually paying for this?

you are kidding, right?
they are republican!
at that moment in time -- dems had lost their minds and were going along with repukes to avoid critisism -- and surely you know that from the looks of your other posts.
as far as mr palast is concered -- he has done a yeomans job on the 00 election and the energy/enron crisis and bushco.
an error here does not make palast a heathen.

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. This is why DU needs to stay alive.

We need Democrats in the party to make sure that Kerry remembers his roots. We know now that there is a conservative machinery out there that will take political shots at him during his presidency, and if Kerry and the Democrats want to avoid the division tht created problems for Clinton during his presidency, I hope the two realize they must stand together on issues. Don't let the Repubs divide and conquer.

[many a good man]

18. 70% Liberal ?

Easily. On specific economic issues. Ah, but the "values" issues. A populist platform would sail through if it included planks that appeal to white males: war mongering, guns, no affirmative action, no gays, no taxes.

Dems have won the white male vote only once in the last 50 years, since we started supporting civil rights, women's rights, abortion, etc. We have so much work to do...

[NashVegas]

19. "Politics is not real wisdom...

It's a hostile two party system" - JWH

[ms.smiler]

20. I think this is what Greg Palast was referencing.

In an interview, Kerry added a chilling detail.

"This guy could have dispatched us in a second, but for ... I'll never be able to explain, we were literally face to face, he with his B-40 rocket and us in our boat, and he didn't pull the trigger. I would not be here today talking to you if he had," Kerry recalled. "And Tommy clipped him, and he started going I thought it was over."

Instead, the guerrilla got up and started running. "We've got to get him, make sure he doesn't get behind the hut, and then we're in trouble," Kerry recalled.

So Kerry shot and killed the guerrilla. "I don't have a second's question about that, nor does anybody who was with me," he said. "He was running away with a live B-40, and, I thought, poised to turn around and fire it." Asked whether that meant Kerry shot the guerrilla in the back, Kerry said, "No, absolutely not. He was hurt, other guys were shooting from back, side, back. There is no, there is not a scintilla of question in any person's mind who was there this guy was dangerous, he was a combatant, he had an armed weapon."

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061603.shtml

[Shoeempress]

21. You prove my point again, Palast is a liar

So there you go, When did John Kerry ever shoot anyone in the back? He didn't. And don't you think Karl Rove (commonly known as Satan) would have shoved this so far up Kerry's ass that Kerry would still be tasting it now?