Bill Mahr's wake up call to the South is working.

[opihimoimoi]

More and More Southerners are changing sides....unable to stomach the the deception/arrogance/and results.....planning on voting Kerry. It didn't take much, one or 2 out of a hundred was all it took... and now Kerry is the projected winner in a number of Red States(of 2000).....

Bush has done himself in......

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. I wanna believe you Opie...

I really do, but the maladministration is totally devoid of impulse control and insight into their own actions. Kind of a Meta-Sociopathology. They are not going to go gently into that Long Good Night. Everything is Possible with them.

We gotta work out tails off, like never before, and watch each others back.

[tnlefty]

2. Please, what was Bill Mahr's wake up call to the south? I missed it and

I would truly like to know what he said. I've seen more people asking me where I got bumperstickers, seen more stickers taking a shot at Bush so....I'm trying to be optimistic, yet tempered by where I live.

[Eric J in MN]

4. Bill Maher has said that just as Northerners vote for

Southern candidates for President, Southerners should vote for Northern candidates.

[tnlefty]

10. Thanks for the response. I was hoping for something a little more pointed

Like...he lied to you and now 1000 soldiers have paid the ultimate price.

Jobs are leaving southern states at a rapid clip....

I don't have a problem with voting with candidates from other regions of the country, but I know that I'm the "odd" one in my circle of folks that I know.

[opihimoimoi]

22. Bill has said the South is STUPID for voting Pub, something to that effect

Said it on Larry King 3 days ago

[kskiska]

24. Reminds me of an old Jackie Mason joke

Jews flock to Chinese restaurants, but do you ever see Chinese at a Jewish restaurant?

[Tosca]

3. It's so comforting to think so

You know, we should boycott the media whores. You know, I become more and more convinced that they're out there performing for each other. They're so removed from regular people, middle-class Americans, it's so evident, we don't exist in their TV world, they don't speak for us, they lick Power, they are the goat licking ballsters of the rich. I hate them! They add NOTHING to REAL political discourse in this country. THEY are WHORES, and should be REVILED and SHUNNED.

I just turned of Fucker Carlson. He is a piece of excrement. And he's on PBS!

There are very few "journalists" I listen to these days.

The TV "News Media" on Sharpton's speech was disgusting. Did they address the issues he was talking about? NO!

Oh, and Kerry RUSHED his speech. Go fuck yourselves, you self-serving, groveling media elite.

[senseandsensibility]

11. Not only that

did you see Fineman and Doris Kern's reaction to Sharpton? Both looked like they were going to lose their lunch. They were sooo, soooo appalled that a black man would speak his mind. Doris in her cheap leatherette jacket looked like she would faint, and, Fineman, that well known black historian and street wise guy,(sarcasm), actually said that Sharpton would turn off black voters. They have no clue. They are empty in every way.

[jdj]

19. OMG it was off the set of Thriller, wasn't it? or maybe the Bad

video. What the hell was that?

Thank God, Thank God for Al Sharpton and every word he said "this vote is steeped in the blood of martyrs, this vote is SACRED to us."


I wish people would get it throught their thick heads that because of slavery and racism if black people tell the truth of their lives then white people WILL be made to feel uncomfortable. Period. We overlap, we races do. There will be friction burns. We need to get used to it and thank God that 'discomfort' is all that is visited upon us.

[Eloriel]

36. Excellent observation

I wish people would get it throught their thick heads that because of slavery and racism if black people tell the truth of their lives then white people WILL be made to feel uncomfortable. Period.

And believe me, it's been my experience that African Americans know the score. (Yes, there are "conservative" blacks, but fortunately they're a miniscule, deluded, self-hating minority -- altho unusually well exploited by the right.) Their b.s. detectors are supreme. That comes from being an oppressed people for all these centuries. That's what you have to do have to do when you're oppressed, and especially when you're enslaved: know the enemy better than the enemy knows itself. They should be far more prominent throughout our Democratic leadership for this very reason. Again and again I find myself counting on the Congressional Black Caucus to more fully represent me, a white woman, than almost anyone else in Congress.

[Flubadubya]

37. Mike Malloy says this all the time...

If you really want to know the truth about something, whether it be politics or social situations, just ask a black person. He says they always know about things that white people are completely clueless to. He's right!

[stanwyck]

21. since when does Howie

speak for the black community? He called Sharpton divisive? Bush is the owner of divisive. People who thought they hated Sharpton were cheering him the next day. These people are out of touch. Really. And poor Doris. She looked bitter, like she'd just sucked a lemon. The Dems had to be kicking ass if those two looked so sour.

[liberalcanuck]

33. I loved Jon Stewart's response to the vitriol directed at Sharpton's

speech. The overreaction spewed by all the major networks, all of whom conspicuously made the same points, would have been laughable were it not for the hateful undertones. Howard Fineman now apparently thinks that he's better suited to speak for blacks. Oh the outrage! Sharpton is striking such a partisan tone! Give me a break. He was doing what he intended to do -- rally the base and respond to *'s questions at the Urban League. How about focusing on the content of a speech for a change?

[magnolia]

12. He rushed his speech???

Fer god sake...how ridiculous. He was speaking to Democrats after all. We can take in information much quicker than the republicans who are used to long pauses, lots of "um" and "uh" and constant repetitions. Bush is turning their brains into mush, making it impossible for them to listen to someone speaking at a normal pace!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

16. And our guy

doesn't need half the time allotted for his speech for applause. bush sits there and smirks and lets them applaud and applaud so that it uses up more time.

If he were to just GIVE his speech straight, it'd be about 10 minutes long, tops.

Seriously.

[Jane Austin]

13. I hope he rushes all of them!

Hard to believe that the only reason he seemed like a tired and boring campaigner was that he spoke too slowly. :))

[AlinPA]

5. Which red states?

[redstateblues]

18. Our Gov in TN got Rs to Cross Over In The last election

Bredesen became Gov by getting smart Repubs to vote for him. He is also a Mass. Librul!

[opihimoimoi]

23. Not all but too many for the BushCos victory lap. The Basement Crew is

into "Meds" now to deal with the intense pressure.

Bush is himself reported to be into fits of anger and rage. Very touchy these days. I wonder why?

[PA Democrat]

27. Check out this site

It shows current polling and 2000 results for each state when you point the cursor over the individual state.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

At present, Nevada, Arizona, West Virginia, Tennessee, New Hampshire and Missouri have moved into the blue column.

[Corgigal]

6. Well something flashed on my TV

yesterday that amazed me. I live in a red state in the good ole bible belt and the local news conducted a phone poll. I have been contacted by this poll twice in 2 years so I know they actually call people. It showed Bush and Kerry only one point apart. My jaw hit the floor and I turned to the family and shouted can you believe this? One point separation. Amazing.

Could South Carolina (aka the Baptist belt) actually be in play?
Oh be still my heart.

[ribrepin]

28. I had a dream

I had an actual dream that the news was reporting(with disbelief) on election day that South Carolina was going for Kerry.

My Dad's family is from South Carolina and they'll take a lot but maybe Bush has pushed them over the line. :P

[newyawker99]

32. Hi Jen 52!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[wish_I_could_vote]

7. But Maher also called southerners STUPID

[merh]

14. Well you have to admit, it does seem rather stupid to support the

admin that has brought such havoc to our nation! I am a Southerner and for the life of me, I cannot figure out why so many here support the weed that would be king. I don't see how any one who lives in the south could support an admin that has depleted the resources that are so necessary to our existence. Not to mention supporting a man who lied to the nation in order to go to war.

:shrug: Stupid may be harsh :shrug: uninformed, ignorant and apathetic may be better terms :shrug:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

17. I live in the south too

You said:

"I cannot figure out why so many here support the weed that would be king. I don't see how any one who lives in the south could support an admin that has depleted the resources that are so necessary to our existence. Not to mention supporting a man who lied to the nation in order to go to war."

Because it's easier than thinking. Based on my repuke friends, that's all I can figure. It's easier than thinking. Just let yourself get programmed and you can stop doing all that mental work.

[merh]

20. Sadly enough, you are correct.

It is so sad. :cry:

[liberalcanuck]

34. Because they have no real record to run on so they use lame,

divisive cultural issues to distract the average voter. The simple fact is most people don't want to look deeper into differences in policy -- that stuff's boring. What they can understand is Democrats = gay marriage + no confederate flag + illegal immigration.

I live in Georgia so I see it first hand. Republican seems to mean heritage in these here parts!

[opihimoimoi]

25. Well said merh. Well said

It appears its the one part of the Nation that has a high receptive for bull crap... They believe the spin like no where else in the country. Is it in the water? the air? No one knows.

[Swede]

29. Do you think it could be racism?

Maybe unconsiously, but being a conservative means to conserve the status quo,resist change.

[goclark]

38. Absolutely!!!

It's all about status quo.
Keep the Wealthy White Man on top and push all the darker skins to the bottom.

The Civil War is still being fought in America. The site of the War has shifted a bit to use the ill informed base of NASCAR tracks,Bubbas, NRA, Christian Right(especially the White Born Agains -the Blacks are just there for window dressing.)

I'd say it's about 90 % racism.

[calimary]

30. "...the weed that would be king..." Oh MAN! You should write for

Billy Crystal for the next Oscars! Priceless!

[TrustingDog]

8. Real Time w Bill on tonite, first show of the new run....

guests Michael Moore, Kim Campbell, Nader and others.

wohooooo!

[NightOwwl]

9. Thank you so much for the heads up!

I had totally forgotten it was going to be on. :hi:

[redstateblues]

15. I'm hoping I'll have to change my screen name!

[opihimoimoi]

26. Postredstate? WasRednowBlueState?

[redstateblues]

31. Great Ideas- Thanks

[Hubert Flottz]

35. The SOUTH is going to rise again!

Just like they did when patriots kicked that other 'KING GEORGE' out in the 18th century! John 'The Swamp Fox' Edwards, is going to rally the southern patriots for the NEW regime change in America! It started in Boston and ended in Virginia once before! History repeats in 2004!

Taxation without Representation, "SHALL NOT STAND!"

The Bush regime's 'Intolerable Acts', "SHALL NOT STAND!"

Read my lips, "NO MORE BUSH*T!"

[opihimoimoi]

39. I hear ya Hubert, the vibes can be felt clear across the Pacific

The Pubs thinking are rooted in the past....all they do is look for what John said or did wromg in the Past, never mind what they want to do for the fut6ure that just might be better than they can do.

The Pubs rarely do something nice/positive/benevolent for the future unless they get the whole pie....them being greedy an all.


The South, the poor gullible South is waking up.....and are they pissed. Taken for cannon fodder, easy money/votes, the Pubs brainwashed these poor folk with so much BS its pathetic. Now they are finding out the truth...they see it....they feel it... they know it,,,and now, they gonna shock the shrimp with a crimp...with a pull of the Left Level....for Kerry/Edwards.

[carolinayellowdog]

40. Post hoc ergo propter hoc

is a logical fallacy assuming causality on the basis of sequence. The cock crowed, the sun rose, therefore the cock crowing caused the sunrise. I really think Edwards and Kerry-- and even more Bush and Cheney et al-- deserve credit for the change in Southern voters, not Bill Maher.

If Maher thinks in such vague terms as "the South" and refers to "it" as stupid, he's guilty of another logical fallacy-- misplaced concreteness.

[opihimoimoi]

41. You are quite correct...Maher is not the main cause of the turnabout

but a small chip in the effort.

Bur he was the first for me to hear calling the South, by and large, "stupid"...and he qualied the phrase in such a way as not to appear "Offensive"