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Aftershock Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:50 AM
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WTF is Dubya smokin'?
He said today that Kerry has no "signature achievements" during his 20 years as Senator. :wtf:?

How many "signature achievements" did Bush have as Governor of Texas? Was it the hundreds of people he had executed? Was it the education system in Texas that he destroyed, which put the state of Texas at the bottom of the list in education? How about changing pollution laws and making Texas the most polluted state in the country? Or how about bankrupting Texas?

I think Bush needs to evaluate himself before he starts evaluating others. :grr:

Sorry moderators if this was mentioned earlier. I just found out about it now and I'm pissed. :grr:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040731/ap_on_el_pr/democrats&cid=694&ncid=716
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:53 AM
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1. He's attacking Kerry's record to take the heat off his own..
W's failed at everything he's touched; King Midas In Reverse, indeed..
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:50 AM
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13. I think it's called Projection
But I'm not a shrink.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:53 AM
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2. here's one you'll want to bookmark then
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Aftershock Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:57 AM
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5. Thank you very much for the link.
I'm going to email this to my college's College Republicans club and see if they'll still support their dumbass. :grr:
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truhavoc Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:02 AM
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15. Thanks for the link
I find it funny how you can get rejected from the U of Texas law school and then get accepted to Harvard business school?? :shrug:
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:55 AM
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3. They are worried people are beginning to see through
the "flip-flopper" talking point, so Rove is trying out a new one.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:56 AM
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4. as has been said, for the record
kerry did have proposals, and most all he attached them to others bill. he has stated as jr? is is easier to get things done attaching to others bills
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:01 AM
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6. Awwwwww...you know Bush...always talking outta his ass!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:01 AM
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7. I for one am SO glad the GOP has decided to continue...
negative and attack politics.

This week we've shown that we can be effective on the high road.

Keep it up, Bushie boy.
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Aftershock Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:04 AM
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8. Exactly.
Like John Edwards said (in response to what Bush said about Kerry's record as senator): "They're trying to take this campaign for the highest office in the land down the lowest possible road. You can reject this tired old hateful negative politics of the past and instead embrace the politics of hope."

I really like Edwards. :thumbsup:
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:19 AM
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9. Sounds like an open invitation to talk about Iran-Contra and the BCCI...
The fact that he hasn't authored and shepherded a mountain of bills doesn't mean much, considering that he's a prosecutor and an executive by inclination. What needs to be looked at is the record of his committee work, and if it's done, the monarchists will wish they hadn't brought it up.

He was quite a bird-dog on the treason that was Iran-Contra, and he could probably say a few things about the Bushies and their proclivity of having banking entanglements with totalitarians and other assorted thugs. Fine by me, let's talk about it.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:30 AM
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10. Bush has had 912 signature achievements and counting
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 01:48 AM by aint_no_life_nowhere
So far, 912 families have received letters of condolences with Bush's signature on them, his signature achievements. One of those families was that of Agustin and Ruth Lau. Just look at the beautiful young 20 year old girl in this article and photo who died a senseless death in Iraq! Karina Lau was a gorgeous young woman with her entire life ahead of her. What a sad waste.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:dGhtoRrHew4J:www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0319-05.htm+letter+parents+iraq+bush+death+son&hl=en
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Aftershock Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:46 AM
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11. Those letters of condolences don't bring back the dead.
Those kids died because of Bush's lies. And Bush thinks letters of condolences are good enough?

Shame on him!
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:47 AM
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12. Pot calls kettle black.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:51 AM
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14. Well, if Kerry's biggest accomplishments were throwing Republicans in jail
with the investigations of Iran-Contra and the BCCI scandal, I would try and downplay it myself.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:54 AM
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16. An amazing statement.
With that one utterance, the President is actually rising above the baseline of honesty and integrity established by Karl Rove's campagin, while incrementally dragging his Administration's record below that same baseline.

Historians may mark this day as the one on which the President's campaign lies actually began to have more credibility than his public policy statements.

____________
Appendix.

"After 19 years in the United States Senate, my opponent has had thousands of votes, but very few signature achievements." --George Bush, July 30, 2003.


Elements of near-truth in the President's statement.

1) Senator Kerry has in fact been in the Senate for approximately 19 years.

2) He has in fact voted thousands of times.

3) A statement of opinion from a source whose reliability is extremely well documented--and therefore easily dismissed.


I contend that the twenty-word statement above actually contains more truth than this sixteen-word statement delivered to Congress:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." --George Bush, January 28, 2003.

Therefore, the President is actually telling more truth when he's lying to college students about Senator Kerry's record than he was when he gave the State of the Union Address in 2003. But it's still a fundamentally dishonest statement, which collectively helps keep this Administration's reputation even below the dishonesty benchmark set at that same State of the Union Address. Hence my statement above.

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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:58 AM
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17. The dark sarcasm and humor in your post is delicious
Thank you!!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 03:27 PM
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19. Why, thank you!
Unfortunately sarcasm, it's older brother cynicism, and big daddy irony are pretty much my stock in trade these days.

Here's hoping to see a new dawn soon.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:11 AM
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18. Facts - from the Kerry rapid response page
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 09:12 AM by OKNancy
Facts on John Kerry's Legislative Record
Continuing to cast one misleading attack after another, George Bush unveiled a new stump speech once again devoid of any ideas for how he would lead the nation but chock full of scurrilous attacks against John Kerry.

Kerry spokesman Phil Singer: "Results do matter, and the fact that George Bush's policies have resulted in record deficits, skyrocketing health costs, lower quality jobs, a military stetched thin and an isolated nation stand in stark contrast to John Kerry's plan to make America stronger at home and more respected in the world."


John Kerry has a distinguished legislative record:

>> He and John McCain negotiated an agreement with Vietnam to provide a full accounting for POW-MIAs.

>> He wrote the first bill reducing acid rain.

>> He has repeatedly led the charge in protecting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge from drilling.

>> He has passed legislation that shut down money laundering activities of terrorists and drug traffickers.


President Clinton Praised Kerry for Putting 100,000 COPS on the Street – “When we tried to get past six years of talking tough on crime but nothing happening, rhetoric and rhetoric and rhetoric and no action, to put 100,000 police on the street, to ban deadly assault weapons to pass the Brady bill, the other side, led the fight against it. But John Kerry helped us pass the toughest, smartest, best crime bill this country has seen in many a day, and the crime rate has gone down for four years in a row. John Kerry was on the right side of history.”


Democratic Leader Tom Daschle Says Kerry Knows How to Get the Legislative Job Done in the Senate - Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle had kind words for John Kerry’s work on Campaign Finance Reform when he asked Kerry to chair the Democratic Steering Committee: "From our teen-smoking bill to HMO reform and Campaign Finance Reform, John Kerry has demonstrated that he clearly knows how to get the job done. He is a valued and trusted member of our leadership team, and I am pleased he has accepted another term as Chairman of the Steering and Coordination Committee."


Even Dr. Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader Says Kerry’s Global AIDS Legislation is a “Huge Step Forward”: “’The Kerry-Frist bill is a huge step forward,” said Frist. “It further validates U.S. leadership in the global effort to end devastation many countries face in the fight against HIV/AIDS’.”


58 bills and resolutions John Kerry has sponsored over the years have passed the U.S. Senate. Countless others have been improved because of his work, including the Clean Air Act, the Children’s Health Insurance Program and the COPS program.


>> John Kerry has taken on the special interests and won.

>> He fought against Newt Gingrich’s anti-labor and anti-environmental regulatory reform.

>> He has fought to raise the minimum wage.

>> He has worked to shut down wasteful corporate subsidies.

>>And John Kerry played an important role in the effort to reach a settlement with the tobacco companies that ended marketing to children and teenagers.

************

The number of bills that bear your name is a poor measure of legislative accomplishment. For example, Ted Kennedy, who most would acknowledge as the most accomplished Democratic Senator in a generation, has had just 9 bills signed into law in 10 years. Of the more than 400 bills Kennedy sponsored in 108th, 105th and 104th Congresses none were signed into law. And Bill Frist, the Republican Majority Leader, has sponsored 88 bills in the 108th Congress and zero have become law. In the 107th Congress, Frist sponsored 52 bills and 1 became law. It was a bill to authorize and urge the President to promote democracy in Zimbabwe.

http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/archives/002284.html#more
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