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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 06:24 AM
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I don't trust the Secret Service
i guess it's a leftover from my memeories of jfk's murder. we all know now, the secret service was extremely involved in jfk's murder, instead of protecting him.

paranoid mo
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tooie Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 06:27 AM
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1. we all know now ?!?!
explain
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 06:28 AM
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2. i guess i don't have time to explain
but i've concluded years ago that they were involved that day in dallas. i'm not a journalist, just a paranoid schizo.
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Baltimoreboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:58 AM
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9. It's nice to be able to agree with you for a change
Not about the Secret Service, but the rest of your post.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 12:16 PM
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10. Vanunu , the nuclear whistleblower says Israel involved in the

assassination. JFK was admantly opposed to any arms race in the middle east. The assassination happened after JFK summoned Ben Gurion to Washington concerned over reports that Israel was secretly working on the developing nuclear weapons.



"Nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu has alleged that Jerusalem was behind the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy, who was exerting pressure on the then Israeli head of state to shed light on the Dimona nuclear plant.


In defiance of a ban on talking to the media and meeting with foreigners, Vanunu is said to have made the accusation in an interview to London-based Al-Hayat newspaper.


As per the interview published in newspaper's Arabic supplement Al-Wassat yesterday, Vanunu said according to "near-certain indications", Kennedy was assassinated due to "pressure he exerted on then head of government, David Ben-Gurion, to shed light on Dimona's nuclear reactor"."


http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/jul/26vanunu.htm



Below is an excerpt from the transcript of the BBC Peabody Award winning documentary "Israel's Secret Weapons". It speaks to the stunning policy change toward Israel's weapons programme after JFK's assassination.


00.13.30 Olenka Frenkiel
Despite claims that Dimona was for peaceful purposes only, Israel’s leader Ben Gurion was summoned to Washington. President Kennedy feared an arms race in the Middle East and demanded inspections.

But when inspectors finally entered the plant in May 1961 they were tricked. They were shown a fake control room on the ground floor. They were unaware of the six floors below where the plutonium was made.


00.14.00 Aston PETER HOUNAM Freelance journalist
Well this was something of great pride and almost a legendary story in Dimona, according to Vanunu. When the Americans came they were completely hoodwinked.


00.14.11 Peter Hounam
All the entrances including the lift shafts were bricked up and plastered over so it was impossible for anyone to find their way down to the lower floors.


00.14.24 Olenka Frenkiel
After Kennedy’s assassination the pressure on Israel was off. His successor Lyndon Johnson turned a blind eye.


00.14.33 Olenka Frenkiel
Then In 1969 Israel's Golda Meir and President Richard Nixon struck a deal, renewed by every President to this day. Israel’s nuclear programme could continue as long as it was never made public. It’s called nuclear ambiguity.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/programmes/correspondent/transcripts/17_03_2003.txt




BTW after this doc aired Israel severed ties with the BBC

http://www.vanunu.freeserve.co.uk/htdocs/documentary.htm
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:45 AM
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3. I rarely trust many gov't entities
Call me paranoid as well, but having worked with the feds I come by my mistrust honestly.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:49 AM
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4. I'm concerned as well
the mere fact that John and John are together on this campaign run makes me very nervous. I just hope that there are true patriots in the Secret Service, CIA and FBI who will make sure nothing nefarious happens.
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jcldragon Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:52 AM
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5. JFK, RFK, MLK
Prescott Bush
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 07:52 AM
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6. Oddly,the head of the Secret Service when Lincoln was assassinated
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 08:01 AM by Algorem
was Will Ohfjak.When Kennedy was killed,the head of the S.S. was Les Klinkin. http://www.open.org/~hughesa/humor/presidents.htm
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:28 AM
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7. my stepdad is retired sec. serv. i trust him quite a bit even if you don't
he put his life on the line each day when protecting vp mondale back in the 70's and again in '84.

he is a good man.

you owe him an apology.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:33 AM
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8. Well, they aren't friends with the current regime...
...so I'm hoping they'll actually do what's in America's best interest. You can trust that you can't trust them and get along like that. There's some kind of saying I'm going to fuck up - better a tiger in broad daylight than a scorpion in your shoe.
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