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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:34 AM
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Anyone voting for * is my enemy
That's how I feel. People who back the party of death and lies must be my enemy or I endorse their crimes. My personal war is not against Arabs or Gays or the Poor or Atheists or Animal Rights or the elderly or kids or the environment.

I've tried to consider that they are misguided humans, easily persuaded by the corpochristofascist. But not anymore. Now I'm convinced that they enjoy the suffering of others.

Conservatives represent to me, people who never reached adulthood, and therefore, are stuck in the self-centered world of the child. For children, it's necessary. Extremely destructive in adults.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:51 AM
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1. Don't call them "christo" anything; I call them Necrophilic
nothing christlike about them. More satanic and evil than Jesus-like.


Like the roman coloseums of death with their gambling on blood sports, their oirgy rooms and their vomitoriums, the repugs supporting Bush seem to LOVE the sadistic power of killing and abusing the helpless and the innocent.

Look at Abu Ghraib - the box cars of Afghanistan - Gitmo-Guantanamo.

In the Raman empire the vanquished in war were fed to lions for the entertainment of the emperor and the masses. Jews and Christians met this fate. People gambled on this and were orgasmic over it - the wealthy could proceed to gorge themselves with food and after working themselves into a frenxy over the deaths and blood and spilled guts of others, totter over to the vomitoriums and the orgy rooms for their explosive and putrid necrophilic stasifaction.

It is just the same with this war and its proponents. They lust at the torture and sodomy and death.

They worship that power. They are Necrophiles.

we are not.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:04 AM
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3. Indeed
We are fed "the necessary war" line, but it's obvious that with the theft of resources comes another fringe benefit, rape and torture. Thugs are violent, and being violent in America lands one in jail. But not in Afghanistan or Iraq. From an Antropological view, all wars are fought for power and sex. Promiss the men the enemies girls, while the generals divide up the goodies.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:02 AM
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2. As funny as both of your posts are, I think we need to be clear on this:
These posts are rants. Good rants, by the way, worthy of Hunter S. Thompson or Cintra Wilson, but rants nonetheless.

Really, there must be a way of turning this situation around. Do we start protesting the media like we protest Shrubby? Do we sue? I want to know what to do next.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:06 AM
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4. Cat
I have no idea what to do next. The reversal of this trendy violence in Amerika, escapes me.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:10 AM
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5. The academic in me says that we need to do some research.
How have fascist regimes been dismantled in the past? How have propaganda organs been jammed? How have sheep been trained to stand up straight? Do we have to start putting subliminal DU messages in FOX reality/porn, or what?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:12 AM
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6. I feel this way sometimes but then my husband of 20 years jerks me back
to reality. A person who goes around hating a whole group of people is not on the side of harmony and happiness. It's bad for you. While you are stewing and simmering and making yourself miserable, you're weakening your ability to fight.

Try to let it go. Let the morans go. Then you can focus positive energy on defeating W.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:03 PM
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7. First: read "Der Fuhrer" and the "History of National Socialism" by..
Konrad Heiden.

This historian was the first chronicler of the rise of Hitler and examines the methodologies of fascism in serious detail.

He exposes exactly what the Bushes have been doing for more than 70 years (they began backing the Nazis in the early 1930's and coordinating payments to Hitler and to their arms industries until well into WWII) - although he does not mention them by name (their involvement was well-hidden and almost uncovered in the media - although reported here and there).

This is an intergenerational struggle against fascism.

Hitler's fascism never died - was never defeated. It merely became more subtle and its proponents learned new propaganda methodologies. The Bushes, Rockefellers, Morgans et al transplanted it to America and South America, Asia and Africa (altho FDR almost defeated a good part of it and might have succeeded except for his untimely death) and they kept it secret.

But they have reemerged just like Camus' plague.

So if we want to stop it we have to be edcated about it/

Konrad Heiden is the essential first place to start.

Lion Fechtwanger (the Oppermans and "The Devil in France") are other great places to start.

But start you must.

Because these bastards will not stop even if they lose in November. And November might not even ever come if they have their way.






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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:17 PM
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10. HALLO!!!
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:07 PM
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8. I think some of them are lazy
My sister is a fervent repub. She believes in prayer in schools (christian) and tows the repub line.
I am gay. She says if "anyone hurts me" she will "kill them". Isn't that funny?
She should plainly see that the repubs are out to get me. She's intellectually lazzzzy. Those are the types of people that soundbites are geared towards.
I love her to pieces but sometimes I want to punch her.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:12 PM
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9. I can't.....quite.....get there with you
and really don't want to.

To explain: I have friends who are voting for bush. They really ARE misguided and uninformed. Two of them don't have cable, don't watch the news and don't read papers. They vote republican just because their parents did. They don't even know what's going on. I've tried to help them, inform them, but they don't want to hear it, it's too much work.

So the worst thing I can say about them is they are truly lazy and intellectually incurious. Does that sound like someone we know?

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