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nycmjkfan Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:05 PM
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On a political website that I frequent someone asked to mention what Kerry has accomplished in all his years of public office, with this post:

Kerry spent 80% of the convention, and his speech, on his four months in Vietnam, it's ironic since that's exactly the portrait Kerry was trying to sell. "Look at me, I'm here on horseback, saluting and reporting for duty!"

Barf.

The question this thread asks, and does so sincerely, is "what has he accomplished?" Most of the great leaders are humble but determined - and they only seek to be accountable for their results, not their words or promises.

So we're on to three pages soon, and still, nobody can produce examples of leadership that suggest he could accomplish 10% of what he's promising.

We have one poster arguing how difficult it is to step out of the spotlight of the senior senator of his own state ... for nearly 20 years ... as one excuse. I'll just let that one stand on its own.

We have another poster copying/pasting his website talking points - not of his achievments, but his earnest best "what he wants to do." No offense CTJ, but as a hirinig manager, you don't really care what an employee "intends to do" until they've demonstrated through their achievements that they're qualified.

The bottom line fellas ... Kerry has done nothing in his career that would suggest he could convince Congress or NATO or the UN ... to do ANYTHING. Maybe he could this time around ... but in over 20 years, he's not demonstrated an ability to

1) Devise a strategic vision or idea on his own, and...
2) Sell that idea to co-sponsors required to effort it's passage, and
3) Manage the plan through the required steps to completion.

Bush did infact do this in Texas as Governor. He won over the liberal leader of the liberal Texas Congress at the time. Bush won bi-partisan reelection with the highest reelection percentage of the century. It was one of the rationale's for his candidacy. As President, he successfully won passage of a huge tax decrease (thanks to many Democrats voting WITH him), he successfully won Congressional support for our Iraq policy and subsequently won UN support for Resolution 1441 ... he's followed through, successfully, on prescription drugs, education reform, immigration reform, homeland security.

Face it - the liberals beef with Bush is not because he's a do-nothing kind of guy. On the domestic front, he's done exactly what he said he would during his campaign. On the foreign policy front, 911 changed priorities ... BUT SINCE THAT TIME Bush has done exactly what he said he would when he went to Congress and the UN.

Sure, he's smart and tough. So what? Sounds like a decent middle manager in corporate America to me. Sounds like a good lieutinant, can take orders and follow-through ... for the leader that assigned them to him. But he's not a leader. Never has been.

Now we're to elect him leader of the free world? Because he served on some committees ... and he really means well now?



I'll admit, being the junior Senator of Mass, you get lots of scraps from the Senior Senator, which is why this is difficult to answer.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:17 PM
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1. Way too easy - but probably not worth bothering with
http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/archives/002284.html#more

>> He and John McCain negotiated an agreement with Vietnam to provide a full accounting for POW-MIAs.

>> He wrote the first bill reducing acid rain.

>> He has repeatedly led the charge in protecting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge from drilling.

>> He has passed legislation that shut down money laundering activities of terrorists and drug traffickers.


There's more at the site, and other sites. There's also so much evidence that the Chimp's been an unmitigated disaster, both in Texas and Washington, that it's obvious the person writing this doesn't want to see the truth. ("Done exactly what he said he would when he went to Congress and the UN" -- not even close.) So I'm not sure I'd even bother if I were you.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:19 PM
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2. 80%??? I think you need to get the transcript, do the math, and then
present the real numbers. :hi: I mean, Bush certainly wasn't in Vietnam with Kerry and Bush's policies were the better part of his speech.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 01:22 PM
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3. I'm more concerned about
what Bush has done that what Kerry hasn't done.

In answer to the last question "Now we're to elect him leeader of the free world?"

Yes. Because Bush doesn't deserve to be rewarded with a second term after the mess he's made of the first one. It isn't just about experience. It's about honesty and integrity and compassion which Kerry has all over Bush.

MzPip
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