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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:28 AM
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Black Box: RESEARCH THREAD -- Defense industry ties to voting
This is a huge topic. Too big and amorphous for one thread. Let's start with something that, when we tug on it, will lead to more:

VoteHere.

OK, it's time: Whazzup with VoteHere?

Hey, listen, it is really true that VoteHere turns up like a bad penny, everywhere you go. While I don't ascribe the commercial intent that Lynn Landes does to Avi Ruben (who wrote the Hopkins report, then was busted for an inactive position as a technical advisor to VoteHere, which Diebold said tainted the report) -- that report, written by four scientists, was accurate and did a lot of good. But we can't keep avoiding this strange little entity called VoteHere.

VoteHere showed up again when we investigated another little matter today. VoteHere shows up when you look into just about anything pertaining to the military-industrial influence in voting. Defense contractors have become just disturbingly enmeshed in the voting system at every single level, and why the hell is that?

What exactly does VoteHere sell? And where the Sam Hill is its revenue stream? Selling a handful of voting machines in Swindon England and the city of Suwannee, Georgia won't pay bills for long, and the deal with Sequoia can't have been all that lucrative.

Who is their financing coming from? Because the way I read this, VoteHere is swimming in a sea of red ink and is awash in powerful military types, like Defense Policy Board member Bill Owens (a director) and former CIA director Gates (a director).

I think the tiny player, VoteHere, may have a bigger role, and I'm mightily curious about its defense industry ties.

We are now providing a certain level of supporting research for investigative reporters. Those with the balls, smarts, and editorial support for true investigative work are few and far between, and I don't want to see these stories go away just because they can't do it all alone.

Your research is picked up and put into some private forums, visible only to reporters who are working on the story discreetly. They don't like to do things in groups, and need to break original stories. So, you may not see the impact of your research right away, but keep it coming. If we can flesh this out, we can perhaps hook a reporter into a deeper investigation of the role of the defense industry the voting industry, and figure out what the heck VoteHere is actually doing. At that stage, we'll cull the research, provide it privately for the forum, and invite a handful of the top researchers in to help get specific questions answered.

Hopefully.

Bev


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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:49 AM
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1. The first rock I'd look under is the Carlyle group...
they own just about everything else.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:42 AM
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2. Bev,
did you read the thread in GD tonight about military/cia operating funds being filtered through the U. S. Department of Agriculture? According to the thread, this department also bypasses accountabiity and is used often for nefarious money deals. Maybe there's something there, possibly money being filtered to VoteHere? Wild card, but you never know. The information gleaned from a thread on Wesley Clark being on Acxiom Board, Acxiom connections include Kissinger, Bushes, Clintons, etc., coming out of Arkansas rich man Stephens who also has connections to Acxiom?
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:03 AM
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4. Got a link, juajen??? I'd love to see that thread! n/t
:kick: Kickity-kick :kick:
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:33 AM
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5. Missed that -- thanks, I'll go look it up.
Bev
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TinfoilHatProgrammer Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:00 AM
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3. in the interest of accuracy
The issue with Dr. Rubin isn't that he held "an inactive position as a technical advisor to VoteHere". That's probably a fair assessment but it's barely even interesting. The issue is the undisclosed financial stake he had in the matter, namely stock options in VoteHere that could potentially rise in value as a result of negative publicity for one of that firm's competitors. Spin it however you like, people will forevermore be able to question whether he may have slanted his work to favor himself financially. He may be one of the "Hopkins Heroes" but he's also apparently a total bonehead.

It doesn't help that he came out with a laughable 'oops I totally forgot about those stock options' story. And the fact that he never exercised any of them is irrelevant... one simply argues that it would have been pointless to exercise them prior to his attempt to damage a competing vendor, since those options would presumably be worth less at that point.

All that aside, I agree that VoteHere is an interesting company. Where does the revenue come from? Why do they keep popping up in the most bizarre places? I find the recurring appearance of some obscure little company and the number of ties with high-profile military/cia people to be way more interesting than most of the other crazy stuff.

JC
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:38 AM
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6. True. What is needed immediately is peer review and replication
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 09:39 AM by BevHarris
of the Hopkins study. What Rubin did or didn't do doesn't change the other three -- Dan Wallach, in particular, isn't even from the same university. Also, much of what was in the Hopkins report was already identified a month earlier right here on DU, though that doesn't mean diddly with the press.

The Hopkins report was accurate, and Diebold's responses were laughable (though not as laughable as their response to the study I published, where they claim that if someone went in a back door using the methods outlined in my report, "the election supervisor would notice it").

That being said, the * is on the study and it needs replication from someone untainted. The problem with full-scale peer review, of course, is that it takes so long the machines will all be in place by the time it's done.

More will be done on Diebold. In the mean time, more needs to be done on the big picture.

Bev
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 06:31 PM
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48. He didn't profit. He is now fully divested, he wasn't the only one who
worked on the paper, and the paper's findings were -- in general -- patently obvious to anyone with rudimentary training in computer programming and security.

Will SAIC now fully divest itself of all its potential conflicts of interest as well?

Didn't think so.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 10:26 AM
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7. Background on Vote Here CEO Adler
High-Tech Profile: VoteHere.net: Rocket scientist turns sights to Web voting frontier

2000-05-08
by Cydney Gillis
King County Journal Business Reporter

<snip> Adler is the founder of Bellevue-based VoteHere.net, a company that wants to make casting ballots easier and faster over the Internet…Adler says widespread Internet voting is still two years away. When it arrives, he adds, it won't allow people to vote the way many dream of: from home, in their pajamas…That would require overcoming a lot more technical and political hurdles than the ones Adler, an expert cryptographer, already has…It appeared Internet voting would require a rocket scientist to figure out. Luckily, Adler is one. At 37, he is already a veteran of General Dynamics' Space Systems Division (now part of Lockheed Martin), where he led work on critical avionics systems for the Titan/Centaur rocket program…

Adler on Internet Voting
Q: What do the patents on your technology represent?
A: These patents deal with keeping the ballot secret, making sure the election is auditable, and dealing with voter authentication, both at the poll site and remotely, as well as making sure that the data center is architected such that it deters typical problems with most Web sites: denial of service and hackers and those kinds of issues.

Q: Those are serious security issues. What other issues have been raised?
A: There's really three major areas. One is, is the ballot kept secret? We have a secret ballot tradition in this country. No one is allowed to know how you voted. ... The second category is, is the election auditable? Can I go in and prove to a canvassing board judge that all the votes that came in were from authenticated voters, and here is an audit trail that proves that ballots were not tampered with and all the ballots received are accounted for.
The third area focuses on who has the keys to the ballot box. ... (A) single entity, whether it be an election official or a party observer or a vendor, must not be able to compromise the election…<snip>

http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/retr_story.pl/19025
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Gordon25 Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 11:28 AM
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8. Jim Adler: Defining certification procedures
Here's an interesting bit.
http://www.votehere.net/about_board.htm

<snip> Mr. Adler <snip> is defining certification procedures for e-voting systems.

Who is he doing this for?

Gordon25
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 11:53 AM
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10. BINGO! You just answered an indirect but crucial question I had
One I didn't post here.

Okay, gotta get on the phone...


Bev
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 11:53 AM
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9. Some other names to check out
I looked for early newsgroup postings on VoteHere and found two items.

One from 1999 said, "A company in Kirkland, Wash., is so confident that a market will develop for Internet voting systems that it changed its name from Soundcode Data Security to VoteHere.net."

And a slightly later item from a newsgroup apparently devoted to help-wanted ads read, "Aerotek Contract Engineering QA Lead/Manager (Bellevue,WA) The leading provider of secure Internet voting. The Company was founded in 1996 to supply secure cryptography products for the Internet. The expertise in data security led to the development and introduction of the VoteHere Election System in November 1998."

Now I'm going to check out both Soundcode Data Security and Aerotek Contract Engineering -- but I wanted to put the names up here for others to be aware of as well.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:06 PM
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11. Forget Aerotek -- Soundcard Data is the relevant name
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 12:08 PM by starroute
Aerotek is just a hiring agency for defense and engineering firms. The ad presumably was placed on behalf of Soundcode/VoteHere.

What it seems to amount to, though, is that Soundcode was founded in 1996 as an internet cryptography firm, developed the VoteHere system in 1998, then decided to specialize in voting technology and changed its name in 1999.

I also found a writeup from a 1999 California taskforce on internet voting which included the names of both Peter Adlerberg and Jim Adler as representatives of Soundcard Data Security.

(On edit: In 1999, Adlerberg was VoteHere's Director of Business Development.)
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:10 PM
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12. relation to SERVE?
and the Pentagon internet oversees voting project? They have 100,000 scheduled votes for 2004 as opposed to handful in 2000. The Feds are setting this up for even larger inclusion obviously, touting security.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:41 PM
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14. No relation to SERVE, that we know of
Supposedly, and kind of odd, given the connections, VoteHere lost the bid to work on the SERVE project to Election.com.

Election.com was the entitiy that evenually had Saudi controlling ownership. When that became a little bit of a hot item, and I read one article that said the Saudi thing was most likely a front for YEMEN interests, the Saudis withdrew in about three days, and Accenture, already partnered with Election.com, bought out the shares.

Accenture is an Auther Anderson spin-off, tax sheltered, good ol' Texas boys, (top two officials Texas connections) company that does a LOT of government business, and gets in trouble for bribary (?) in Europe and has Canada mad at them.

Still, the connections always go back to some interest or another with the same or highly related roots.

I think Accenture's involvement trumped VoteHere.

By the way, if I had relatives or friends overseas in foreign service of the military, I would warn them NOT to vote via this project. Their votes go right to servers in the Pentagon. :thumbsdown:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:29 PM
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13. Do you have this
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 12:55 PM by seemslikeadream
Richard L. Green is director and principle of Soundcode and is also director of Preferred Techology Group in Hanover NH. from 1998

www.uvcia.org/meetings/special4.html

funny Computer Industry Association CIA

could be the same Green vice president Sun Microsystems
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:03 PM
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21. Richard L. Green - VoteHere Board bio
A I losing my mind, not to mention memory, or doesn't Computer Associates have CIA ties too?

Richard Green, Co-founder of VoteHere
http://www.votehere.net/about_board.htm#board2
Richard Green is a co-founder of VoteHere and served as Chairman from 1998 to 2001. He works actively with management in strategic planning, business development, contract review, and technical design.

Mr. Green is a co-founder and director of KnowledgeMatrix, Inc., a producer of e-learning systems based on advanced research in psychology and brain science. He is also a director of White Mountain Stove, Inc., a producer of innovative products for the outdoor recreation market. Mr. Green is a co-founder of the Acorn Investor Alliance, a regional investment group located in Hanover, NH.

Mr. Green has 27 years of experience as an executive in the software and networking industries. In 1983, Mr. Green co-founded Corporate Microsystems, Inc. (CMI), a software firm specializing in data communications, where he served as CEO and Chairman for ten years. In 1993, he negotiated the successful sale of CMI to Legent Corporation, a major software vendor later acquired by Computer Associates.

Mr. Green is a senior advisor to the Dartmouth College technology transfer and entrepreneurship programs, and serves as a business plan evaluator for the Tuck School of Business. Mr. Green is President of the Board of Directors of the Grafton County, NH Economic Development Council and is a member of the Assembly of Overseers of the Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in Lebanon, NH.

Mr. Green graduated with honors in 1976 from Dartmouth College, where he received the John G. Kemeny Prize in Computing.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:20 PM
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25. Interesting huh?
Eloriel I came across this didn't know if Bev had it or needs it
but figured you could decide she looks kinda busy now didn't want to bother her

Firm admits errors in counting votes for Hawaii, Venezuela
Hawaii is negotiating an eight-year contract with ES&S

Faulty ES&S machines used in Hawaii's 1998 elections forced that states's first ever recount.

The company paid $250,000 to settle contract disputes and 280,000 to recount the ballots after complaints about poorly trained polll watchers, malfunctioning voting machines and spoiled ballots.

Nonetheless the state and ES&S have been negotiating a new eight year contract to count ballots in the next four elections.

They have made systems that operate well but they are not perfect said Doug Lewis

Because of glitches last year in ES&S voting machines and ballots voters in Gulfport, Miss may have selected the wrong canidates for some offices. And an ES&S scanner kicked out incorrect ballots in a Charleston, W.Va. last month while ballots supplied by the company in Norfolk Va. election last year were defective

ES&S has felt the most fallout from its problems in Venezuela where the nation's highest court suspended the May 28 elections because of technical glitches in the cards to tabulate votes.

www.starbulletin.com/2000/06/07/news/story3.html
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:45 PM
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15. The Soundcode trail doesn't seem to lead anywhere
I worked through Jim Adler's postings on Google groups, and the further back you go, the more he looks like just an ordinary computer programmer with an interest in encryption. In 1996/97, his company was developing an inexpensive encryption program called "Point 'n Crypt," apparently aimed mainly at individuals, small businesses, and local law enforcement.

Any defense industry connections would seem to be more recent, probably dating only from when Soundcode/VoteHere got into the internet voting business in 1998/99.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:01 PM
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17. Are these all the same James M. Adler?
The earliest Usenet posting from Jim Adler at Soundcode was in June 1996. Before that, in April 1996, there were a couple of postings from a Jim Adler at Tangent Systems. I think that's the same person, because his full name was James M. Adler, and that's also the full name of the Soundcode/VoteHere guy.

Tangent Systems is in San Diego, and I found a reference to yet another James M. Adler who was with General Dynamics Space Systems Division in San Diego in 1991. And that might point towards the military-industrial complex.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:06 PM
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23. Looks like they are all the same
I just had a look at Adler's biographical sketch at the VoteHere website, and it says, "Mr. Adler received his BS in Electrical Engineering with High Honors from the University of Florida and his MS in Electrical Engineering from the University of California, San Diego."

For what it's worth, Peter Adlerberg also attended the University of Florida. (I found him listed as president of their Seattle area alumni group.)
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:16 PM
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51. Jim Adler - former rocket scientist
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 08:23 PM by starroute
King County Journal, 2001-02-19
http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/45088

A former rocket scientist, Adler is the founder and chief executive of VoteHere.net, a 4-year-old Bellevue company that hopes this fall to roll out a computer-based voting system.

<snip>

In November, when dot-com firms couldn't get any more financing, Adler scored a $10 million investment from Northwest Ventures Associates, Internet giant Cisco Systems and Compaq Computer Corp.

Compaq, in particular, is a major partner. This spring, VoteHere is rolling out its latest software, Election System 3.0. The launch will be backed by Compaq selling counties inexpensive PCs called "Internet appliances" to run VoteHere's software at polling precincts.

<snip>

To win over election officials, VoteHere has a very big gun who joined the company's board last fall: Ralph Munro, the former secretary of state who oversaw Washington's elections for the past 20 years.

<snip>

The company will lead the way, Munro added, because of Adler and his crew's skill at cryptology, the software encoding that Munro said makes VoteHere's system private, secure and easily auditable. Adler's history in the field includes working for General Dynamics, where he developed "mission-critical" avionics and launch systems for Titan and Centaur rockets. He also holds a patent on digital signature technology.


On edit: a little more of the same

King County Journal, 2000-05-08

It appeared Internet voting would require a rocket scientist to figure out. Luckily, Adler is one. At 37, he is already a veteran of General Dynamics' Space Systems Division (now part of Lockheed Martin), where he led work on critical avionics systems for the Titan/Centaur rocket program.

From there, he co-founded a company called Triteria, where he invented and patented one of the first digital signature techniques for securely sending documents over the Internet.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:46 PM
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16. I wonder if they were connected to the Florida military voting ?
in last election? There is no doubt in my mind that many of the military votes were fraudulent. Hundreds were recorded late, with excuse they were somehow "delayed" at sea. It was unfortunate that Joe Lieberman went along with that scam. That alone would have mad a difference in their final count.
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jimmynochad Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:59 PM
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20. Not tied to 2000 Serve project
That one was run by Booz Allen and it only involved about 96 votes. It was a proof of concept test. It cost some ungodly sum per voter (the number is in the 6 digits and escapes me at the moment).
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:43 PM
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18. Bill Owens also works for SAIC?
Former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Admiral Bill Owens, Joins VoteHere Board

Bellevue, Wash. — Sept. 10, 2001 — VoteHere, Inc., a leading worldwide provider of secure electronic and online voting systems, today announced that Admiral Bill Owens, Former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has joined the company’s Board of Directors.
"The men and women in our uniformed service put their lives on the line every day to protect our Country, yet in many cases their votes are not being counted," says Owens. "VoteHere’s remote voting expertise ensures military votes get counted on time and with the highest security and privacy standards."

"Admiral Bill Owens brings to VoteHere extensive knowledge of military operations and a first-hand look at the challenges our troops face when trying to vote," says Jim Adler President and CEO of VoteHere. "Admiral Owens has been in the field, at the Pentagon, and commanded ships in the Persian Gulf and around the world. His deep background and broad perspective will guide VoteHere in delivering the best possible voting solutions for all of our military personnel."

Bill Owens held the rank of four-star Admiral in the U.S. Navy and served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He also served as the deputy chief of Naval Operations for Resources, Warfare Requirements and Assessments, commander of the U.S. Sixth Fleet, senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney, and director of the Office of Program Appraisal for the Secretary of the Navy. After his military service, Admiral Owens was President, Chief Operating Officer and Vice Chairman of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), the nation’s largest employee-owned high-technology company. Currently, he is Co-CEO and Vice Chairman of Teledesic, a position he has held since 1998.

http://www.votehere.com/news/archive01/091001.html
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:38 PM
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26. Admiral Bill Owens, VoteHere Board bio (Carlucci, Cheney)
Quite a find re SAIC, GO)

Admiral Bill Owens, Chairman

Admiral Bill Owens serves as the Company's Chairman. Currently, Bill Owens is Co-CEO and Vice Chairman of Teledesic, a global broadband networking company. Previously, he was President, Chief Operating Officer and Vice Chairman of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), the nation’s largest employee-owned high-technology company.

During his distinguished military career, Bill Owens held the rank of four-star Admiral in the US Navy and served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He also served as the deputy chief of Naval Operations for Resources, Warfare Requirements and Assessments, commander of the US Sixth Fleet, senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney and director of the Office of Program Appraisal for the Secretary of the Navy.

Admiral Owens is a graduate of the US Naval Academy with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics. He has bachelors and masters degrees in politics, philosophy and economics from Oxford University and a master’s in management from George Washington University.

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:44 PM
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28. No surprise there. SAIC is a HUGE defense contractor.
http://www.saic.com/news/rankings.html

Defense News - 11/18/2002 #12 World's Top 100 Defense Firms
Department of Defense - 1/23/2003

Read the article from:
http://www.dior.whs.mil
#7 100 Companies Receiving the Largest Dollar Volume of Prime Contract Awards


There you have it. The seventh-largest U.S. military contractor will be the final arbiter of whether the BBV systems are fair 'n' balanced. Oh yeah. Sure. I trust them about as far as I could throw a fit (actually quite a bit less far, if you've ever seen me angry!).
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:41 PM
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34. The surprise is this - Bill Owens Connects SAIC, VoteHere and Sequioa
+ The military. Is this guy the Don. I would like to know a lot more about how Avi Rubin got invited onto VoteHere and how he got his options. As several people have pointed out.. all roads lead to VoteHere.... and they lead where? To Bill...

I had an interesting email today from a Diebold dealer who complained about this from an entirely new perspective.

"Did you also know that Sequoia Voting Systems who Votehere is partnered with is owned by De La Ru Inc., based in the U.K.?

De La Ru is the largest currency printer in the world and also one of the largest ATM and currency handling device suppliers in the world.

De La Ru competes with Diebold for the ATM business all over the world. Doesn't it seem odd that a company associated with Sequoia would be run by the former head of SAIC, Bill Owens?

Doesn't it also seem odd that SAIC is reviewing the source code for voting systems all over the country?

It also seems like an unlikely coincedence that Diebold's voter registration system was reviewed by SAIC for the state of Oregon and the purchase was cancelled based on SAIC's recommendation.

Not to mention that SAIC did the voter registration system for Michigan."
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:38 PM
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43. Surprise! De la Rue is really, really scary...
http://www.delarue.com/DLR_Content/CDA/Pages/Home/home/0,1641,,00.html

De La Rue, a British company, is the world's largest commercial security printer and papermaker, involved in the production of over 150 national currencies and a wide range of security documents such as travellers cheques and vouchers. The Company is pioneering new technologies worldwide in government identity solutions for national identification, driver's licence, passport issuing schemes and election systems. Employing over 6,500 people across 31 countries, it is also a leading provider of cash handling equipment and software solutions to banks and retailers worldwide, helping them to reduce the cost of handling cash.

OK, add national ID systems to BBV and what do you get? :scared:
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:51 PM
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50. Connections between Rubin and Andrew Neff of VoteHere
C. Andrew Neff is VoteHere's chief scientist -- formerly with IBM's T.J. Watson Research Center, then with a company called Stratasys, then with Ioptics.

Rubin and Neff appear as co-authors on a paper published in 2001:

Ed Gerck, C. Andrew Neff, Ronald L. Rivest, Aviel D. Rubin, Moti Yung: The Business of Electronic Voting. Financial Cryptography 2001: 243-268

http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/indices/a-tree/n/Neff:C=_Andrew.html

It looks like this may be part of the proceedings of a conference on Financial Cryptography held in 2001, where these same five people were on a panel with the same title.

http://www.ifca.ai/fc01/schedule.php
http://www.ieee-security.org/Cipher/ConfReports/2001/CR2001-FC2001.html

I'm getting the impression that the electronic voting field is a small and specialized one, where everybody knows each other, and there may be no actual outside parties.


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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:47 PM
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36. A big red bird I know knows heaps about this subject.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:49 PM
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37. I'm starting to like Howard Dean more and more...
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:58 PM
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52. I coulda told you
:evilgrin:

Yeah, he's the right man for the job. No doubt in my mind.

Eloriel
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. Ushag Veg Ruy
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 04:23 PM by seemslikeadream
Ushag veg ruy ny moanee doo,
Moanee doo, moanee doo,
Ushag veg ruy ny moanee doo,
C'raad cbaddil oo riyr 'syn oie?

Nagb cbaddil misb riyr er baare y crouw,
Baare y crouw, baare y crouw,
Lesb fliagbey tuittym er dagb cbeu,
As ogb! my chadley cba treib.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. Meaning what.... I think YOU are the one that needs some sleep dreamer...
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #39
46. Dreamlike Musings are Translated....
Aha...

A song of a little red bird seeking a comfortable place to sleep. http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/mb1896/p042.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. And here I was to believe
you knew that right off.
thanks for that link, al
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:58 PM
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19. "Dr." Robert Gates's bio - from VoteHere site
Dr. Robert Gates
http://www.votehere.net/about_board.htm#board2

Dr. Robert Gates has 27 years experience as an intelligence professional for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), including serving as Director of Central Intelligence from November 1991 until January 1993. Currently, Dr. Gates is the Dean of the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University, a position he has held since 1999.

Dr. Gates has been awarded the National Security Medal, the Presidential Citizens Medal, has twice received the National Intelligence Distinguished Service Medal, and has three times received the CIA’s highest award, the Distinguished Intelligence Medal.

Dr. Gates is the author of From the Shadows: The Ultimate Insider’s Story of Five Presidents and How They Won the Cold War and lectures frequently in the United States and abroad.

He is as a member of the national executive board of the Boy Scouts of America and president of the National Eagle Scout Association. Additional affiliations include being a member of the board of trustees of the Fidelity Funds, and a member of the boards of directors of TRW, Inc., LucasVarity, and NACCO Industries. Dr. Gates also serves as senior adviser and consultant to several major international firms.

Dr. Gates received his BA degree from the College of William and Mary, his Master’s degree in history from Indiana University, and his Ph.D. in Russian and Soviet history from Georgetown University.

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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
35. Dean of the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M Univ
The fog is lifting....
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:05 PM
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22. Robert G. Wolfe, VoteHere Board bio
Robert G. Wolfe, General Partner, Northwest Venture Associates
http://www.votehere.net/about_board.htm#board2
Robert Wolfe brings 25 years of finance, operations and technology management experience to the VoteHere team. He is currently a General Partner with Northwest Venture Associates (NWVA), the largest venture capital fund exclusively invested in Pacific Northwest-based companies, where he previously served as Entrepreneur in Residence and Advisory Board Member.

Most recently, Mr. Wolfe served as President and COO of GT Group Telecom, Canada's largest independent, facilities-based telecommunications provider, where he grew revenue from under C$2 million to C$250 million (annual rate) and closed several key acquisitions. He drove multiple financings over C$2 billion, including the company's initial public offering on NASDAQ and the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSE 300). Mr. Wolfe was also CFO of Trillium Corporation, a global investment firm with real estate and forestry interests, where he oversaw the firm's investment portfolio and financial strategies, including technology, retail, media and venture funds.

Mr. Wolfe has also held several senior positions with The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. (NYSE: GS) in Asia, Europe and the US, where he provided investment-banking services for non-Japan Asia and European financial institutions. His efforts led to the first Euroyen auto-backed financing, overseeing mortgage- and asset-backed securities finance and assisting in the development of Fannie Mae's multi-billion dollar callable debt program.

Mr. Wolfe also serves on the Board of Directors of jaalaM Technologies and is a managing member of Phillips Real Estate Services, LLC, the largest residential property management company operating exclusively in the Pacific Northwest.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:18 PM
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24. Company profile at Seattle website
http://www.seattle24x7.com/xfiles/xvotehere.htm

This is the part that really caught my eye:

Investors: In Nov. 2000, the company announced $10 million in financing from a group of investors, including Compaq Computer, Cisco Systems and Northwest Venture Associates. $1.5 million in seed financing was obtained back in October 1999. Total financing in the company now stands at about $17 million.

Revenue (past 12 months): n/a

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Customers: VoteHere.net is leading the industry and nation in conducting secure internet elections. A few elections they have handled: Maricopa County, Arizona - Presidential Election Online Voting Trial , Sacramento, California - Presidential Election Online Voting Trial , San Diego, California - Presidential Election Online Voting Trial, Cornell University Election, Boeing SPEEA contract vote, Presidential Preference Primary, KSU Student Governing Association Election, Virtual Vote 2000 Presidential Primary, Alaska Republican Straw Poll, Iowa ISPAC, Iowa Municipal Election



$17 million in financing and no applicable revenue? And the only customers they listed were for trial votes and a few local and college elections? Is this typical of a new company, or is Bev right that there is something strange going on here?




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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:41 PM
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27. Tom SImpson, VH Board bio - Venture Capitalist
Admiral Bill Owens, Chairman

Admiral Bill Owens serves as the Company's Chairman. Currently, Bill Owens is Co-CEO and Vice Chairman of Teledesic, a global broadband networking company. Previously, he was President, Chief Operating Officer and Vice Chairman of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), the nation’s largest employee-owned high-technology company.

During his distinguished military career, Bill Owens held the rank of four-star Admiral in the US Navy and served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He also served as the deputy chief of Naval Operations for Resources, Warfare Requirements and Assessments, commander of the US Sixth Fleet, senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney and director of the Office of Program Appraisal for the Secretary of the Navy.

Admiral Owens is a graduate of the US Naval Academy with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics. He has bachelors and masters degrees in politics, philosophy and economics from Oxford University and a master’s in management from George Washington University.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #27
53. Try again - Tom Simpson - THE Venture Capitalist for VH
Tom Simpson, Managing Partner, Northwest Venture Associates
http://www.votehere.net/about_board.htm#board2

Tom Simpson is managing partner of Northwest Venture Associates with 15 years of experience as a venture capitalist and investment banker building and serving successful Northwest businesses in several markets. Prior to forming Northwest Venture Associates, he was a managing director in Dain Rauscher Wessels' Seattle-based investment banking group, where he spearheaded the fundraising of more than $350 million for several of the region's most successful emerging companies. Tom is a director of Confirma, Pacific Edge Software, Sur La Table, Pet's Choice, Sightward, Telect, TeleSym and VoteHere and a former director of AdRelevance (now NetRatings), Netpodium (now Akamai) and Packet Engines. He is a board member and past-president of the Evergreen Venture Capital Association, which oversees the 40 plus venture capital firms in Washington State. Tom serves on the boards of the National Association of Small Business Investment Companies and the Technology Alliance of Washington. He holds a bachelor's degree in business administration from the University of Washington and a master's degree in business administration from The Wharton School.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:46 PM
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29. Board of Advisors (Gates and various) - VH bios
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 02:46 PM by Eloriel
That Repug creep political scientist from U of VA Larry Sabato is one. Why? I posted the Gates bio separately.)
http://www.votehere.net/about_board.htm#board2

Keith Bantick

Keith Bantick is past Chairman of Promotional Campaigns Worldwide. Mr. Bantick, who has a strong background in fast moving consumer goods sales marketing, founded the company in 1971, which specializes in promotional marketing. In 1986, Ogilvy and Mather Worldwide acquired Promotional Campaigns. Mr. Bantick served as director of Ogilvy and Mather Worldwide and built a network of 18 offices in 17 countries. He retired from the company in 1986. Mr. Bantick has written and lectured on promotional marketing in the United States, Europe, Asia, South America and South Africa. He is a former Chairman of the Institute of Sales Promotion in the UK and former Regional Vice President of the Association of Promotional Marketing Agencies Worldwide. He has won more than 83 Institute of Sales Promotions awards, including 40 gold awards, and in 1997 was voted into the Associated of Promotional Marketing Agencies Worldwide Hall of Fame.

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Dan Boneh

Dan Boneh is an Assistant Professor at the Department of Computer Science at Stanford University. His research focuses on cryptography, specifically the security of cryptographic primitives and their application in real world systems. A Packard research fellow, Professor Boneh is the author of numerous technical papers on cryptography and network security as well as several patents. At Stanford, he is leading a number of systems security projects on topics such as web security and security applications for handheld devices. Professor Boneh’s numerous awards including the IBM Partnership Award, the Terman Fellow Award, and the Alfred P. Sloan Research Fellow Award. In addition to his work at Stanford, he has also served as a consultant for Microsoft Corporation and Intertrust.

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Deborah Brunton, Vice President, Public Affairs

Deborah Brunton comes to VoteHere from the Microsoft Corporation, where she held the position of Director of State Government Affairs in the Law and Corporate Affairs department. In this role, she was responsible for a program focused on issue advocacy, policy development, relationship building and industry affairs management. From 1989 to 1993, she also served as Press Secretary for United States Senator Slade Gorton. Ms. Brunton received her Bachelor of Arts in History from Whitman College.

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Larry Sabato

Larry Sabato is an election analyst and professor of Government and Foreign Affairs at the University of Virginia. Dr. Sabato has authored numerous books on politics and has appeared on dozens of nationally broadcast television shows, including Nightline, The Today Show, 48 Hours, and Larry King Live. He is also the author of the seven-volume Virginia Votes series chronicling all state elections, as well as articles on national and state politics. Dr. Sabato has served on such national and state commissions as the National Commission for the Renewal of American Democracy, the US Senate Campaign Finance Reform Panel, and the Governor’s Commission on Campaign Finance Reform, Government Accountability, and Ethics. A former Rhodes scholar and Danforth fellow, Dr. Sabato holds a B.A. in government from the University of Virginia, completed a yearlong graduate study in public policy at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and received his doctorate in politics from Oxford University.


Berry Schoenmakers

Berry Schoenmakers is Assistant Professor at Eindhoven University of Technology (Netherlands), where he specializes in cryptography. Formerly, Mr. Schoenmakers worked with DigiCash and held a post-doctoral position in David Chaum’s crypto group at CWI. He co-authored several papers on cryptographic protocols for privacy-protecting payments and electronic voting and worked on the design of electronic payment systems, in particular on the eCash(tm) system, also while taking part in the EU projects CAFE and SEMPER. Mr. Schoenmakers also designed and implemented an online voting system that uses a universally verifiable protocol; this prototype was used as the voting engine for a small-scale shadow election of the Dutch national elections in May 1998. Mr. Schoenmakers received his MS and Ph.D. degrees in Computing Science from Eindhoven University.

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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #29
40. Boneh=Stanford
From your snip above, Eloriel:



VoteHere Leadership
VoteHere’s Board of Directors, Advisors and Management Team are comprised of highly experienced people internationally recognized for their leadership and expertise in the arenas of technology, security and government.

Board Members | Management Team


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Board Members
Directors Advisors
Adm. Bill Owens, Chairman
Jim Adler
Richard Green
Ralph Munro
Tom Simpson
Robert G. Wolfe
Keith Bantick
Dan Boneh
Deborah Brunton
Larry Sabato
Berry Schoenmakers
Dr. Robert Gates


Admiral Bill Owens, Chairman

Admiral Bill Owens serves as the Company's Chairman. Currently, Bill Owens is Co-CEO and Vice Chairman of Teledesic, a global broadband networking company. Previously, he was President, Chief Operating Officer and Vice Chairman of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), the nation’s largest employee-owned high-technology company.

During his distinguished military career, Bill Owens held the rank of four-star Admiral in the US Navy and served as Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He also served as the deputy chief of Naval Operations for Resources, Warfare Requirements and Assessments, commander of the US Sixth Fleet, senior military assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney and director of the Office of Program Appraisal for the Secretary of the Navy.

Admiral Owens is a graduate of the US Naval Academy with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics. He has bachelors and masters degrees in politics, philosophy and economics from Oxford University and a master’s in management from George Washington University.

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Jim Adler, President and CEO, VoteHere

Jim Adler is founder, president and CEO of VoteHere, the leading worldwide provider of secure electronic voting. Mr. Adler is widely regarded as an authority on the subjects of cryptography, Internet security and e-voting. Mr. Adler served on California’s groundbreaking 1999 Internet Voting Task Force, has testified before state legislatures on the subject of e-voting, and is defining certification procedures for e-voting systems. He is a frequent speaker at conferences, seminars and panel discussions on the topic of online and electronic voting both in the United States and internationally.

Under Mr. Adler's leadership, VoteHere has received extensive worldwide press coverage from Time, US News & World Report, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, Business Week, ABC, CBS, NBC, Financial Times, Wired, Red Herring, and USA Today.

Mr. Adler received his BS in Electrical Engineering with High Honors from the University of Florida and his MS in Electrical Engineering from the University of California, San Diego.

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Richard Green, Co-founder of VoteHere

Richard Green is a co-founder of VoteHere and served as Chairman from 1998 to 2001. He works actively with management in strategic planning, business development, contract review, and technical design.

Mr. Green is a co-founder and director of KnowledgeMatrix, Inc., a producer of e-learning systems based on advanced research in psychology and brain science. He is also a director of White Mountain Stove, Inc., a producer of innovative products for the outdoor recreation market. Mr. Green is a co-founder of the Acorn Investor Alliance, a regional investment group located in Hanover, NH.

Mr. Green has 27 years of experience as an executive in the software and networking industries. In 1983, Mr. Green co-founded Corporate Microsystems, Inc. (CMI), a software firm specializing in data communications, where he served as CEO and Chairman for ten years. In 1993, he negotiated the successful sale of CMI to Legent Corporation, a major software vendor later acquired by Computer Associates.

Mr. Green is a senior advisor to the Dartmouth College technology transfer and entrepreneurship programs, and serves as a business plan evaluator for the Tuck School of Business. Mr. Green is President of the Board of Directors of the Grafton County, NH Economic Development Council and is a member of the Assembly of Overseers of the Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in Lebanon, NH.

Mr. Green graduated with honors in 1976 from Dartmouth College, where he received the John G. Kemeny Prize in Computing.


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Ralph Munro, former Secretary of State of Washington State

Ralph Munro served as Secretary of State of Washington State from 1980 to 2000. He has an impressive background in legislative, elections and government policy spanning more than two decades. Mr. Munro was instrumental in developing and implementing progressive plans making voting more convenient for citizens and improving the administrative process for elections officials.

Under Mr. Munro’s leadership, Washington State saw significant advancement in the efficiency of state election services including absentee voting, voter registration, election reporting and voter information. His notable achievements include implementing the presidential primary allowing independent voters to participate in the nomination process; transitioning election equipment from lever machines to more technologically advanced optical scan systems; designing the “Motor Voter” registration system that offers citizens the opportunity to register to vote at the same time they obtain a driver’s license; and supporting a program that allowed Washington-based Desert Storm troops to vote via fax from the Persian Gulf.

Mr. Munro has also given his time and expertise to government, civic and volunteer organizations. He served as past president of the National Association of Secretaries of State, co-chaired the International Task Force of the Council of State Governments and trustee and member of the Federal Election Commission Clearinghouse Advisory Panel and the Commission on Voter Participation.

Mr. Munro’s numerous awards include the World Citizen Award from the Seattle World Affairs Council, the Warren G. Magnuson Award for outstanding public service and the Executive Leadership Award from the Washington State League of Women Voters.

Mr. Munro has a BA in Education and Political Science from Western Washington University.


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Tom Simpson, Managing Partner, Northwest Venture Associates

Tom Simpson is managing partner of Northwest Venture Associates with 15 years of
experience as a venture capitalist and investment banker building and serving successful Northwest businesses in several markets. Prior to forming Northwest Venture Associates, he was a managing director in Dain Rauscher Wessels' Seattle-based investment banking group, where he spearheaded the fundraising of more than $350 million for several of the region's most successful emerging companies. Tom is a director of Confirma, Pacific Edge Software, Sur La Table, Pet's Choice, Sightward, Telect, TeleSym and VoteHere and a former director of AdRelevance (now NetRatings), Netpodium (now Akamai) and Packet Engines. He is a board member and past-president of the Evergreen Venture Capital Association, which oversees the 40 plus venture capital firms in Washington State. Tom serves on the boards of the National Association of Small Business Investment Companies and the Technology Alliance of Washington. He holds a bachelor's degree in business administration from the University of Washington and a master's degree in business administration from The Wharton School.


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Robert G. Wolfe, General Partner, Northwest Venture Associates

Robert Wolfe brings 25 years of finance, operations and technology management experience to the VoteHere team. He is currently a General Partner with Northwest Venture Associates (NWVA), the largest venture capital fund exclusively invested in Pacific Northwest-based companies, where he previously served as Entrepreneur in Residence and Advisory Board Member.

Most recently, Mr. Wolfe served as President and COO of GT Group Telecom, Canada's largest independent, facilities-based telecommunications provider, where he grew revenue from under C$2 million to C$250 million (annual rate) and closed several key acquisitions. He drove multiple financings over C$2 billion, including the company's initial public offering on NASDAQ and the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSE 300). Mr. Wolfe was also CFO of Trillium Corporation, a global investment firm with real estate and forestry interests, where he oversaw the firm's investment portfolio and financial strategies, including technology, retail, media and venture funds.

Mr. Wolfe has also held several senior positions with The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. (NYSE: GS) in Asia, Europe and the US, where he provided investment-banking services for non-Japan Asia and European financial institutions. His efforts led to the first Euroyen auto-backed financing, overseeing mortgage- and asset-backed securities finance and assisting in the development of Fannie Mae's multi-billion dollar callable debt program.

Mr. Wolfe also serves on the Board of Directors of jaalaM Technologies and is a managing member of Phillips Real Estate Services, LLC, the largest residential property management company operating exclusively in the Pacific Northwest.

Mr. Wolfe has a Bachelor of Arts degree in Business Administration with honors from Washington State University and MBA from Pacific Lutheran University. He has also participated in the graduate business programs at The George Washington University and the Leonard N. Stern School of Business at New York University.

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Board of Advisors

Keith Bantick

Keith Bantick is past Chairman of Promotional Campaigns Worldwide. Mr. Bantick, who has a strong background in fast moving consumer goods sales marketing, founded the company in 1971, which specializes in promotional marketing. In 1986, Ogilvy and Mather Worldwide acquired Promotional Campaigns. Mr. Bantick served as director of Ogilvy and Mather Worldwide and built a network of 18 offices in 17 countries. He retired from the company in 1986. Mr. Bantick has written and lectured on promotional marketing in the United States, Europe, Asia, South America and South Africa. He is a former Chairman of the Institute of Sales Promotion in the UK and former Regional Vice President of the Association of Promotional Marketing Agencies Worldwide. He has won more than 83 Institute of Sales Promotions awards, including 40 gold awards, and in 1997 was voted into the Associated of Promotional Marketing Agencies Worldwide Hall of Fame.

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Dan Boneh

Dan Boneh is an Assistant Professor at the Department of Computer Science at Stanford University. His research focuses on cryptography, specifically the security of cryptographic primitives and their application in real world systems. A Packard research fellow, Professor Boneh is the author of numerous technical papers on cryptography and network security as well as several patents. At Stanford, he is leading a number of systems security projects on topics such as web security and security applications for handheld devices. Professor Boneh’s numerous awards including the IBM Partnership Award, the Terman Fellow Award, and the Alfred P. Sloan Research Fellow Award. In addition to his work at Stanford, he has also served as a consultant for Microsoft Corporation and Intertrust.


Is Boneh VoteHere's David Dill insurance? He's signed Dill's petition which insists on a voter verified ballot that serves as the official audit trail. But his position on the Board of Advisors looks more substantial than Avi Rubin's ever was.
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/endorsers.asp?offset=90&catid=1

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Boneh, Dan Assistant Professor of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering Stanford University
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. Or is he another Avi Rubin, in waiting
I noticed that and wondered if he had signed the petition.

Perhaps Vote Here collects computer security experts....
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #42
49. What do you think about this as a hypothesis?
Please feel free to cut it to shreds.

Start with VoteHere's clarification of their relationship to Rubin ... notice how they describe themselves and consider it their current business plan.

Wednesday, August 20, 2003

Clarification of VoteHere's relationship to Avi Rubin and VoteHere's position in the election market

VoteHere is a supplier of e-voting technology to election providers and has established software licensing relationships with several election providers worldwide. Most recently, VoteHere announced a non-exclusive agreement to provide its patent-pending VHTi election verification technology to one of the leading voting machine manufacturers (http://www.votehere.net/news/archive03/080403.htm). VHTi is a software add-on to electronic voting machines that ensures that each voter can verify that their vote was cast-as-intended and any independent observer can verify that all ballots were counted-as-cast.

Avi Rubin was a member of VoteHere's technical advisory board for approximately two years. During that period, Dr. Rubin had very little direct interaction with VoteHere, although the company has many advisors with varying degrees of participation. Dr. Rubin is an independent researcher and certainly has not been a standard-bearer for VoteHere. In fact, during his technical advisory board tenure, he has been an outspoken critic of Internet voting in direct opposition to VoteHere's position. VoteHere is proud to associate itself with tough, independently-minded, distinguished researchers.

VoteHere had no knowledge that Dr. Rubin's team was conducting a review of Diebold's election system, nor that they were compiling and planning to publish a report. VoteHere became aware of the report when it was first referenced in the New York Times on July 24, 2003.

Because of the report, Dr. Rubin has assumed a new de facto role as an industry watchdog during this period of US election reform. It is appropriate and necessary that he resign from our technical advisory board, and has done so effective August 18, 2003. VoteHere never paid Dr. Rubin for any services, and in returning all stock options he has dissolved any financial benefit from his former VoteHere relationship.

VoteHere is a technology licensing company. VoteHere does not manufacture any type of voting machine, does not sell directly to governments, and has no plans to do so.

If you have any questions, please email pr@votehere.net.
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Hypothesis:

VoteHere provides the fallback position on the chessboard because of its connections to SAIC and the military-industrial complex as follows:

1. If SAIC again flunks Diebold as they apparently did in Oregon, their (connected) competitors will be tainted by inference as well.

2. ITAA's "blue ribbon" panel makes VoteHere's online verification "add-on" the de facto gold standard.

3. Dill has already agreed to host VoteHere's verification add-on on his website for everybody to pick apart.

4. Boneh, who is an associate of Dill's and has signed the petition, vouches for the wondrousness of the encryption technology. He is expected to sway Dill and the other sceptics. Stanford endorses the VoteHere "solution" or Boneh comes up with a way to make them look bad.

5. Diebold may or may get through this. They could always go with the VoteHere software, which is already certified in Georgia, on their machines, and keep their contracts, though.

6. VoteHere's verification add-on is used in all elections.

7. At some point, buyouts occur in the industry.

8. At a slightly later point, online voting becomes the standard.


Granted, it's just one of many scenarios they would have had gamed out. What do you think, guys?

3. All the voting machine companies pick up the VoteHere add on to "ensure" the credibility of their results.

4.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. My problem with your scenario
Haha - isn't your scenario at all, but rather I don't "get it' what VoteHere's supposed technology DOES, or how it could work.

Except, of course, that it would once again let them get away without using a papar trail, and I'm flat out against that. (Been there, done that.)

So -- anyone get it about this supposed new technology?

I think it's just another veneer. Call me jaded.

Eloriel
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. Of course it's just another veneer.
Isn't this the "technology" where the voter gets a card with a number on it that they can use to check the internet to "make sure" their vote was recorded correctly -- thus providing 1) something on paper and 2) "voter verification"?

Of course, there's no reason why the actual software can't still have two or three sets of books just like Diebold, with the voter accessing his/her actual vote whether or not it has anything to do with the votes as counted, now is there? That's the beauty part.

Am I missing something about how these bastards play things?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:53 PM
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30. Other Mgmt Team - VH Bios
Not sure there's anything here.
http://www.votehere.net/about_management.htm

C. Andrew Neff, Ph.D., Chief Scientist

Dr. Neff was a Research Staff Member at the IBM T.J. Watson Research Center. While there, he developed and published several new ideas in the areas of algebraic and geometric computation and Design of Experiments. In 1990 and 1996 he solved a fundamental problem determining the optimal complexity of solving non-linear univariate equations which had been an open problem, important to several fields of computer science, since the mid 1970s. He left IBM to work for Stratasys, a company developing a "3D printing" machine for direct forming of solid parts from electronic data. There he improved on state-of-the-art software for geometric manipulations, as well as dynamic control. In 1998, he joined the technical team at Ioptics where he developed algorithms for advanced signal processing. Dr. Neff received his BS and MS from the University of Chicago, and his Ph.D. in theoretical mathematics from Princeton University.

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Scott Axworthy, Vice President, IT and Operations

Scott Axworthy brings over 19 years of experience in information technology, information systems, software development, project management, and operations to VoteHere. Mr. Axworthy's role includes all information technology and election operations aspects of hosting, deploying, and delivering the VoteHere Election System. Before joining VoteHere, Mr. Axworthy held the position of Manager, IS Infrastructure, with Duet Technologies/Cascade Design Automation in Bellevue, WA, where he was responsible for the IT and IS needs of this international, high-tech software/services company. Prior to this, from 1983 to 1988, he was a software engineer for Seattle Silicon and Boeing Aerospace developing and supporting electronic CAD software. Mr. Axworthy holds a Bachelor of Science degree in General Physical Science from Washington State University.

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Pauline Warren, Vice President, Sales

Pauline Warren comes to VoteHere with extensive experience in international business development, strategic planning and domestic and international sales management. Most recently, she held the position of Sales Director at Avaya, Inc., overseeing the decision-making for the management, growth and revenue performance of the AT&T Wireless account. Ms. Warren has also held sales leadership positions at Lucent Technologies, Inc., Mosaix, Inc. and Siemes Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd., building partner sales channels in the US, Europe, Asia and Latin America markets.

Ms. Warren is a native of Northern Ireland, United Kingdom, and holds a Bachelor of Arts in Business Studies from Ulster University, Northern. Ireland.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Partners and Alliances - VH site
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 03:00 PM by Eloriel
http://www.votehere.net/partners_list.htmT

oday, Votia is one of the world's leading companies within the field of politics, democracy and new technology. As the only European representative, Votia was included on the PoliticsOnline list of the 25 principal actors that influence politics through the use of the Internet. Votia combines knowledge and experience from organizations, commerce and industry in tangible and innovative democracy projects that fortify the influence of employees, citizens and members alike.


The ElectionTRUST is a Third-Party Authority offering innovative balloting solutions for every private sector election challenge. The election management experts and technology The ElectionTRUST employs have successfully managed balloting for millions of voters in associations, corporations, cooperatives, trade unions, credit unions and political parties. Whether a vote requires a traditional mail-in paper ballot, an interactive ‘touch-tone’ telephone ballot or robust online eBalloting, The ElectionTRUST is dedicated to delivering a simple, fair, efficient, private and secure election...every time.

These people are making me such a Luddite.


LICENSED ASP PARTNERS

These partners license VoteHere's secure e-voting technology to provide a full e-election service to the end-user from a dedicated datacenter in the local territory or market segment.


Anite Public Sector is dedicated to meeting the needs of today’s modern government and other public service providers. With over 700 installations in more than 300 organizations, they are the UK’s leading supplier of IT applications to local government, and a specialist provider of software and consultancy to central government departments and agencies.


The Athena Consoritum is a specialist consortium comprised of Anite Public Sector, Citizens Online and VoteHere to facilitate e-Democracy in the UK. The Athena Consortium (Athena - the Goddess of Wisdom and patron of Athens, the birthplace of democracy) will start by supporting the e-Voting pilots in May 2003.


EDS was established in the UK in 1984. In the past four years this very important part of EDS has more than trebled in size and now serves more than 120 major clients across most major industry sectors.

Headquartered in Stockley Park, Middlesex, EDS UK has just over 19,000 permanent employees, located at more than 170 locations nationwide.

EDS delivers a portfolio of services that helps clients embrace speed, transform their enterprises, respond quickly to opportunities, protect their physical and digital assets and go to market ahead of their competitors.


Cable & Wireless is one of the world’s leading global communications companies. For 130 years it has constantly reinvented itself to embrace the latest technological advances to serve its customers’ needs.

Cable & Wireless Global provides integrated communications and e-commerce solutions to business customers, in particular to multinational and large national corporates. It offers advanced, internet-based data and voice services primarily in the key business markets of the US, Europe and Japan. Cable & Wireless Regional provides a full range of telecommunications services to both consumer and business customers in 33 countries around the world, including the Caribbean, Panama, Macau, the Middle East and South East Asia.


PLATFORM PARTNERS

These market leaders supply the products, technologies, and services upon which the VoteHere solutions operate. These include hardware systems, databases, operating systems, telecommunications equipment and connectivity services.


Cisco Systems, Inc. is the worldwide leader in networking for the Internet. Cisco's Internet Protocol-based (IP) networking solutions are the foundation of the Internet and most corporate, education, and government networks around the world. Cisco provides the broadest line of solutions for transporting data, voice and video within buildings, across campuses, or around the world.



HP is a leading provider of products, technologies, solutions and services to consumers and business. The company's offerings span IT infrastructure, personal computing and access devices, global services, and imaging and printing.



Entrust.net Limited a subsidiary of Entrust Technologies"! (NASDAQ: ENTU) strengthens and extends Entrust Technologies' leadership position in delivering trust solutions for e-business transactions and relationships over wireless networks and the Web. Entrust.net solutions include Web and wireless server certificates and innovative management tools to help organizations lower costs and manage trusted e-business transactions between customers, partners and employees. Leveraging the strengths of Entrust Technologies world-renowned security expertise and technologies, Entrust.net is committed to delivering premium customer service and ensuring that our innovative trust solutions continue to lead the industry.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:35 PM
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32. There's no stopping the queen of research...
Go Eloriel!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:38 PM
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33. No there's not
and I don't think she sleeps either!
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 03:50 PM
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38. Oops, misplaced repartee. Howard Dean remark was supposed to be here
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:47 PM
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44. ITAA ES Division Directors - Google these guys... find their latest bios..
Bios of each of these guys would be exceedingly usefull...establish a new thread for each...and then people can pick them over and look for connections. Odd things... we are particularly interested in links to VoteHere at present. But finding a board member who would speak out against the flow would be cool too...

Happy Hunting.


A WHO'S WHO OF THE DEFENCE AND SOFTWARE INDUSTRY - ITAA ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS DIVISION BOARD OF DIRECTORS

The Enterprise Solutions Division Of The ITAA Board

Mr. Thomas P. Anderson VP & COO Raytheon Company
Mr. Harvey V. Braswell President ACS Government Solutions Group
Mr. Martin Cummings VP, Homeland Sec & Civil ProgIntegic Corporation
Dr. Renny DiPentima Pres, Consulting & Systm Intg SRA International, Inc.
Ms. Ellen Glover President, Impact Washington Impact Innovations Group
Mr. Thomas A. Grissen President & General Manager Maximus
Mr. Stanley J. Gutkowski Mngng Prtnr, US Gov't Mrkt Accenture
Mr. Roland S. Harris III Gen'l Mgr, Public Sector IBM Global Services
Mr. Thomas L. Hewitt President Global Governments, Inc.
Mr. Rodney P. Hunt President & CEORS Information Systems, Inc.
Mr. L. Kenneth Johnson President CACI International Inc.
Mr. Steve Kalish Pres., Federal Sector Computer Sciences Corporation
Mr. James Kane President & CEO Federal Sources, Inc.
Mr. Ira D. Kirsch President, US Fed Gov't Grp Unisys
Mr. Ronald J. Knecht Sr. Vice President SAIC
Mr. Robert B. Laurence President & CEOLYCEUM
Mr. Robin S. Lineberger SVP & General Manager BearingPoint
Mr. Louis G. Matrone President & COO IMC
Ms. Valerie W. Perlowitz President & CEO Reliable Integration Services
Mr. James J. Perriello President, Gov't Solutions Northrop Grumman Information Technology
Mr. Ross G. Pickus VP Bus Development Computer Associates
Mr. Donald E. ScottS VP Gov't Solutions EDS Corporation
Mr. William Shernit President BAE Systems ESI
Mr. Robert Stauffer Nat'l Business Development Mgr Deloitte Consulting
Mr. Henry J. Steininger Managing Partnr, Glob Pub Sec.Grant Thornton LLP
Mr. Kenneth Touloumes VP, Business Development Titan Corporation

Source – ITAA

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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:50 PM
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45. So who is at Craig's garden party today?
Former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Joins Advisory Board of IDELIX Software Inc.
US Admiral Bill Owens lends endorsement to the PDT™ product within the Aerospace/Defense industry

Vancouver, British Columbia – October 22, 2002 –

Bill Owens is currently the co-CEO of Teledesic, a satellite company funded by Bill Gates and Craig McCaw that is building a broadband satellite-based global Internet and communications network. Prior to his position at Teledesic, Owens was the President, COO and Vice Chairman of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC). From 1994 to 1996, he served as Vice Chairman of the US military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, the second-highest ranking military officer position in the country. Prior to that, he served as the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Resources, Warfare Requirements and Assessments, as well as Commander of the United States Sixth Fleet and Senior Military Assistant to Secretaries of Defense Frank Carlucci and Dick Cheney. Admiral Owens is currently an active member on the Board of Advisors for the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA).

http://www.numericalmethods.com/press_release_20021022.shtml
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:15 PM
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55. Defense Department funding?
What's the term I'm looking for? Ya know the one that TOP Secret DOD programs are funded by?

Seems like with all these ex-military folks hanging around this issue, some 'Special' money is flowing.

Good work all.....so nice to read about citizens making a diff. Be careful. Thanks.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:23 PM
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57. You mean "black budget"?
Why not?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:40 PM
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58. Thanks hedda
Yeah, why not? They sure wouldn't put it on the books, right? Makes one wonder how many other anti-democratic programs these 'black budgets' finance. And who'd ever know?

How would one begin to pry into the outcomes of spending the black money? Old records now made public? A Senator? A Bob Graham?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 05:19 AM
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59. Kick
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