MaryH
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:03 AM
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All News Reporting Terror Intelligence was Old Stuff |
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Most of it from 2000 and 2001. This alert seems to be a little late in coming.
And how about that Terror Czar - serving at the pleasure of the President. That is what we need.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:06 AM
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Edited on Tue Aug-03-04 08:17 AM by G_j
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/politics/03intel.html?th=&pagewanted=print&position=NYT: Reports That Led to Terror Alert Were Years Old, Officials Say ------------------ http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0803-01.htmAgence France Presse: Pre-9-11 Intelligence Underpinning US Terror Alert - "There is nothing right now that we're hearing that is new. Why did we go to this level?... I still don't know that." Senior law enforcement official
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KharmaTrain
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:08 AM
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2. How About Ridge's Head? |
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This regime has compromised its validity in delivering a credible warning...a major dereliction of their job. This is not just an embarassment on this regime, this will make such future warnings scrutinized rather than taken seriously.
No heads rolled after 9/11 despite the obvious screw-ups, not one went based on the 9/11 commission report despite plenty of mistakes made there, and none will roll now. This regime has no concept of responsibility and now we're paying for it with our fleeced tax dollars and now our own personal safety.
If this doesn't create some backlash on this regime, those who abet and support should be held accountable if another attack happens in this country.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:16 AM
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4. Yeah to the common Joe this will be the worst example of crying wolf |
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They finally came out with specifics and now it turns out that the info is almost 3 years old. Okay so alQaeda plans well and this could still be the planning for a move with the cell already in the US (of course I hope not and hope they catch someone) BUT for the average observer this might have been the final straw and totally blown their credibility, such as it is.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:26 AM
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5. Kool Aid Drinkers Will Double The Doseage |
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If a large portion of the population still believe that Iraq was tied to Al Queda and 9/11 and there were WMD in Iraq and other regime lies...and when they're exposed, many stick their heads further up their asses and blame the messenger not this regime for the lying and deception.
The real culprits here are the media, that takes what this regime says on face value, puts it out as "breaking news" and achieves this regime's intention of generating a wave of fear that diverts attention away from things they don't want you to pay attention to. Then, when the report is found to be fraudulent (usually by the independent media) then the regime spins and lies, also carried, face value, by the media, who then blame the Democrats for politicizing this thing.
In some ways we're being set up here. If there's no attack between now and election day, this regime will boast how it thwarted attacks and made the nation safer...despite the lies, while if there is one, it was OUR fault in questioning these reports in the first place.
My hope is you're right about enough people finally getting fed up with this regime to result in a solid electoral college victory and the end of this regime.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:32 AM
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9. I need to call my political litmus test buddy |
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HE is the vein that tells which way the political winds truly blow.
I talked to him right after the last terror alert ("and may attempt to influence the democratic process") and the first thing he said was ~"What is this BS?!?!?" "They are just scaring us and trying to get us to look in the wrong direction" I informed him (forgot now) what the big news that day or the day before was and asked if he heard anything about it-he said "How the hell could I all they are talking about is fear and terror".
BTW- he Calls W "Kevin Bacon" after Bacon's "REMAIN CALM ALL IS WELL" line in Animal House as Chip Diller.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:38 AM
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10. Remember Belushi's Line After That? |
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NO PRISONERS! LOL!
My bellweather is C-SPAN Washington Journal...where the Rove blast fax is heard early and often, and hardly a word is spoken about this by the wingnuts. Do they think we'll just ignore this and run for the duct tape the next time this regime cries wolf? Of course, if you question this, you're being unpatriotic, and Underpants, if there's another terrorist attack it was your fault it happens as you questioned our feckless leader without any thought of your own. Shame on you! </sarcasm off>
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MaryH
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:31 AM
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If this adm will do something like this just to get back on the front page we should make sure they are just all gone.
This is about the fourth time they have done this., Now a terror alert comes out and everyone immediately wonders if it is just another political move - or is this one real.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:14 AM
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3. Perhaps if they had heeded... |
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the warnings when they were fresh information, we wouldn't have had 9-11. But it was more convenient for them to allow the attacks to happen, just as it was more convenient for them to pull out this 3-year old terror alert right after the Democratic Convention.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:29 AM
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6. "Serving at the pleasure of the President"? Isn't that Condi's job? |
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:32 AM
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8. I Don't think Congress will go for it |
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We need someone who cannot be touched by politics in that job.
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Tue Aug-03-04 08:40 AM
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is going to start making its rounds to the American public(heard on MSNBC)......if the Senators don't listen it could cost them their jobs....this commission sounds like it is going to give the real dirty low down facts on the state this country is in....
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