Gunshot tape that could solve the JFK mystery

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Michael Janofsky in Washington
Thursday August 5, 2004
The Guardian

SNIP

About a year from now, one of the most vexing mysteries in US history may finally be solved: did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone?
Scientists at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory have begun work on a digital scanning apparatus that they believe will be able to reproduce sound from the only known audio recording of the assassination of John F Kennedy on November 22 1963.

The recording was made through an open microphone on a police motorcycle as Kennedy's motorcade entered Dealey Plaza, Dallas, where the president was shot. The sounds were captured on a Dictaphone belt at police headquarters, but scientific analyses of them over decades have proved inconclusive, fuelling arguments about how many people were involved in the killing.

The federal government's official inquiry into the assassination, the Warren commission, concluded in 1964 that Oswald was a lone gunman who fired three shots from the Texas Book Depository building above the plaza. But a House committee 15 years later concluded that four shots were fired, including three from the book depository and one from another location, giving rise to all manner of conspiracy theories.

Like old 78rpm records, the Dictaphone belt became worn and damaged through constant replay. When it became the property of the National Archives in 1990, its technical staff recommended that no further efforts be made to replicate its sounds through mechanical means.

From:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1276370,00.html


No internet link but from memory: UK press archives circa summer 1967 to autumn 1969 reporting the UK high court trial of young adult sons of former US GIs/UK women, accused of sex attacks on pre-adolescent UK children near the US Airforce base at Dawes Hill, High Wycombe, Bucks and USAF Naphill, Bucks, referred to testimony heard In Camera at the trial of Mandy Rice Davis, a call girl who brough down UK Defence Minister John Profumo by also sleeping with top UK-based Soviet spies. Gagging orders in this case meant no reporting. But:

The Times reported evidence in the 1967/69 paedophile sex trial of a witness who alleged that one JOHN CREASEY was implicated in the 1963 Dallas assasinaiton of JFK. His cousin Edward Creasey was one of the defendants involved in attacks on children centred around the USAF British bases. This piece of evidence was the item gagged at the Profumo trial.

This news item used to be available on the Times's microfiche service before internet.

[Bowline]

1. Oswald most definietly acted alone...

...Our government says so, and they wouldn't lie to us.

[TruthIsAll]

6. The autopsy drawings vs. the doctored photos prove a conspiracy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=771514

[Carni]

9. I was going to ask you what you were smoking

Until I read the body of your message! LOL

[Bush was AWOL]

30. Hardly anybody believe Oswald acted alone

so they've failed miserably trying to sell that lie.

[H2O Man]

39. In fact, Oswald did not "act"

alone of with others in Dallas. He was not one of the gunmen. Rather, he was indeed "a patsy" as he said.

Anyone who watches the film of the murder can see that there was more than one gunman.

[truth2power]

46. I'll never believe Oswald did it.

Others here should read "Farewell America". Good case made, IMO, that there were four gunmen who caught JFK in a crossfire.

According to the above, Oswald was CIA operative. Not that he wasn't involved, but he wasn't one of the gunmen.

Footnote p. 322. "Nevertheless, it <CIA> has deposited 51 Top Secret documents in the National Archives, including several disclosing that Oswald was one of its agents.....The public will be allowed to read them in the year 2038."

edit> Thanks to H2OMan for bringing this book to my attention.

[Bucky]

43. Here's a website that debunks some of lamer conspiracies (but not all)

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[SheilaT]

2. This is a very old story.

The police officer who's open mike it was insists he was quite some distance from Dealey Plaza when that recording was made.

So sorry I can't give a citation, I'm depending on my memory of this coming out about twenty years ago for the first time.

[ladjf]

3. You might be correct about the tape.

However, sound reverberations off of the surrounding buildings could have caused the same acoustic effect.

[ProfessorGAC]

7. Reverberations Are Easily ID'd

There is absolutely no way that an acoustic analysis would fail to distinguish an echo or reverberation from an original.

You take the "4th shot" and overlay it's spectrum over each of the other shots. It will form an interferrometric pattern. Then, you adjust the phase of the "4th shot". If it's an echo, the pattern will change to a characteristic interferrogram wherein it's all reinforcement peaks around the remaining part of the spectrum. (Since on reflection some frequencies get lost, since there's no purely reflective surfaces in nature.)

If the "4th shot" doesn't create this pattern, then it's a true fourth shot. Any acoustician who doesn't know this is not an acoustician. I learned this using oscilloscopes to prevent microphone phasing in the studio.

Also, two nearly identical noises can also be compared to determine if the noises came from the same basic location, especially in an urban environment where the backgrounds and foregrounds would be completely different for opposing locations. This is especially true in a case like this, where the density of sound absorbing surfaces (the people along the street) wasn't identical on opposite sides of the road.

The acoustic analysis of this tape, while disputed, has been analyzed in detail. There is absolutely no record of any reputable acoustician that considers that 4th shot an echo.
The Professor

[Beetwasher]

10. I Didn't Realize That

"There is absolutely no record of any reputable acoustician that considers that 4th shot an echo."

This additional digital analysis should pretty much put it to rest then? Then the only people denying the fourth shot would be, well, in complete irrational denial...

Thanks Prof! Always appreciate your posts!

[ProfessorGAC]

12. Thanks

I don't think it should take a computer to do this analysis. A computer simplifies the phase shift, and the view of the interferrograms, and makes the fourier transforms easier, but this could be done with a simple oscilloscope, two tape machines, a phase shift device, and a slide rule. They had all those things in the 60's.

The computer analysis simplifies and accelerates the work, but the principles and mathmatics are identical.

I'm not speculating on this. This information on the earlier work is available in a book about the House Select Committee on Assassinations work. Sorry, i can't remember the name of it. But, one of the authors was on CSPAN Book TV about a year ago, refuting the Gerald Posner book "Case Closed". This was one of the things he discussed in significant detail.
The Professor

[ladjf]

14. I believe you were saying that the harmonic format of

echos have a distinctive harmonic pattern, that an echo from an original source would possess some of, but not all of, the original sound content as measured harmonic (frequency) by harmonic.

That seems logical, even the part about missing frequencies.

I haven't disputed your hypothesis, just suggested that the final evidence might not be as cut and dried as seem convinced it is.

Personally, I don't think Oswald acted alone and my guess is that others were firing shots that day. My only purpose in tossing out the possibility of there being a stray echo was make certain that such was not the case.

Sound is sluggish, messy and isn't always easy to Analise. We aren't talking about reading the frequency content of a flute playing A=440.
The situation during the shooting was acoustically complex with thousands of interrelating elements.

I have no doubt that the Government withheld vital information from the public about that assassination.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. That's Why I Said I Required The Work It Does

Interferrometric pattern analysis, along with fourier transforms can be used to measure the composition of stars at 10 million light years. Think acoustic analysis is messy? Think about that type of work.

Also, interferrograms and fourier transform math can be used in nuclear spin resonance to determine the orbital shift velocity of a molecule in middle of microsecond kinetic reactions.

If this technique can be used for these things, it can be used for acoustics, especially since it was used for that first.

I understand what you're saying, but i can honestly tell you that your flute example actually strengthens my case. One can tell, from a recording, in the same room, the difference between two different flutes played by the same person. Or two different saxophones. Or, the same one played by two different people.

The interference pattern analyses is extremely precise and powerful.
The Professor

[ladjf]

21. Regarding the different ion of flute sounds:

A person with a good ear can do that.

[ProfessorGAC]

22. That's True. However,. . .

. . .i'm not sure that is the case of a recorded flute. The recording process tends to compress the subtleties. Also, i'm talking about a single note, not a phrase.

Certainly, you're right, because i can tell from one note that Miles Davis or Freddie Hubbard is the trumpeter or that Coltrane is playing sax, not Parker or Shorter or Sanbourn. But, one note, of equal duration, recorded is harder to tell if people aren't trying to stylize. And, one person two instruments is harder than two people one instrument.

But, i don't disagree that a good ear would spot those differences. That being said, the ear is a remarkable acoustic analysis device. And, i hear 4 shots on that tape. You probably would too.
The Professor

[wtmusic]

25. Wrong

There are all kinds of ways that an acoustic analysis could fail to distinguish an echo or reverberation.

Do you have a pristine digital recording of the event no one has heard yet? If you're referring to the dictaphone recording made by the motorcycle cop, it's a piece of crap. The officer was several blocks from Dealey, and it's altogether possible the gunshots on the tapes are reverberations themselves.

The density of background noises on this tape make any further analysis highly speculative and therefore worthless.

[theivoryqueen]

31. Yowza. Nice Brain.

interesting info, too.

[wtmusic]

4. Doesn't matter

all the perps are dead. It will, in fact, never be "solved"--we'll never know for sure. Can't get worked up over it.

[On the Road]

5. Can't Get Worked Up Over It?

I mean, I'm never been a follower of Kennedy conspiracy theories, but the computer analysis will likely determine whether shots came from more than one gun.

I've been more curious ever since Nixon's cryptic statement on the WH tapes that the Warren Commission report was a joke, but giving no clue on the alternative.

[wtmusic]

8. The computer analysis

will be no more valuable than the analyst's conclusions drawn from them, which can never be conclusive because of the quality of the recording.

It will make good fodder for the Discovery channel, though.

[On the Road]

18. It Could be More Conclusive Than That

Just like voice prints, gunshot have different characteristics. Unless the same model were used, there would were a different signature.

The echo analysis might be more subject to interpretation. Depends on the results.

[Octafish]

11. Don't know if he's a perp, but George "Poppy" Bush is still alive.

And he certainly had something to do with the JFK assassination. Check out this FBI memo, which reports how George Herbert Walker Bush, "president of Zapata Oil Company," ratted out a conservative Republican on November 22, 1963 — WITHIN MINUTES OF THE ASSASSINATION.



In this FBI memo initialed by J Edgar Hoover, one week after the assassination of President Kennedy, a "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" goes on record as clearing the anti-Castro Cuban community in Miami.



Now Poppy may not have had anything to do with the plotters, but I doubt it, seeing how he was connected to the CIA, Texas Oil, anti-Castro Bay of Pigs Thing, Nixon's Texans, Wall Street, and the NAZIs -- before and after World War II.

PS: Babs told Michael Beschloss that she took George Junior to see "the parade" that day in Dallas. Poppy can't remember just where he was.

[wtmusic]

13. Point well taken, and well documented

It would be nice to think we could get some closure on this. I don't believe a new analysis of the tape is going to make anything happen. Perhaps a deathbed confession could, however.

[emad]

17. Wonder where Unky Jonathan Bush was that day......??

I think a forensic reply is called for from the family...

[seemslikeadream]

19. Waitin' by the car?

[emad]

20. And those bags, all full of the $$$$$$$s for the Zapruders???

Or forward-planning schedules charting his proposed meteoric rise to CEO of Riggs?

[Octafish]

26. Why I hate TIME: Henry and Clair Booth Luce

Most of the people in CIA are good people I've met one or two.

The Depraved Spies and Moguls
of the CIA's Operation MOCKINGBIRD

by Alex Constantine

Who Controls the Media?

Soulless corporations do, of course. Corporations with grinning, double-breasted executives, interlocking directorates, labor squabbles and flying capital. Dow. General Electric. Coca-Cola. Disney. Newspapers should have mastheads that mirror the world: The Westinghouse Evening Scimitar, The Atlantic-Richfield Intelligentser . It is beginning to dawn on a growing number of armchair ombudsmen that the public print reports news from a parallel universe - one that has never heard of politically-motivated assassinations, CIA-Mafia banking thefts, mind control, death squads or even federal agencies with secret budgets fattened by cocaine sales - a place overrun by lone gunmen, where the CIA and Mafia are usually on their best behavior. In this idyllic land, the most serious infraction an official can commit is the employment of a domestic servant with (shudder) no residency status.

This unlikely land of enchantment is the creation of MOCKINGBIRD.

It was conceived in the late 1940s, the most frigid period of the cold war, when the CIA began a systematic infiltration of the corporate media, a process that often included direct takeover of major news outlets.

In this period, the American intelligence services competed with communist activists abroad to influence European labor unions. With or without the cooperation of local governments, Frank Wisner, an undercover State Department official assigned to the Foreign Service, rounded up students abroad to enter the cold war underground of covert operations on behalf of his Office of Policy Coordination. Philip Graham, a graduate of the Army Intelligence School in Harrisburg, PA, then publisher of the Washington Post., was taken under Wisner's wing to direct the program code-named Operation MOCKINGBIRD.

"By the early 1950s," writes former Village Voice reporter Deborah Davis in Katharine the Great, "Wisner 'owned' respected members of the New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles, plus stringers, four to six hundred in all, according to a former CIA analyst." The network was overseen by Allen Dulles, a templar for German and American corporations who wanted their points of view represented in the public print. Early MOCKINGBIRD influenced 25 newspapers and wire agencies consenting to act as organs of CIA propaganda. Many of these were already run by men with reactionary views, among them William Paley (CBS), C.D. Jackson (Fortune), Henry Luce (Time) and Arthur Hays Sulzberger (N.Y. Times).

CONTINUED...

http://afgen.com/media_control.html

[emad]

28. "Most of the people in CIA are good people I've met one or two":

Louis Freeh. Yuck. Maybe not up the media's ass like as per your great post above, but up every other upwardly mobile ass there is. Including Pamela Harriman who in my humble op should have been sent to Kabul not Paris, would have done her the world of good. Freeh protected Harriman's disgusting son ex-UK MP Winston Churchill who is a blight to that fine name. His role in the BFEE has yet to be put into the public domain; he and disgraced ex-Tory Minister for Arms Procurement (that is procuring for the Saudis) Jonathan Aitken have yet to account for their role in getting a handsome cut from the Al-Yamamah Arms for Oil deal backhanders.

Ex MI5 Head Stella Rimington shielded Harriman's son for the sake of the Tories former glory.

[Octafish]

29. Louis Freeh sat on 9-11 warnings and is getting away with treason.

Five minutes with Louis Freeh and a pencil may be all that's required to get the truth. The guy only sat on Dave Frasca's burning toupee and deep-sixed all the reports about terrorists at flights schools coast-to-coast-to-coast-to-coast.

That Brown Brothers Harriman is still at it. "Strategic partnership" this and "strategic partnership" that! You'd think they'd be pretty full of themselves in prison by now if this was a Just world.

[ladjf]

15. I agree in a way.

However, it would be constructive for Americans to realize that they are frequently misled about very important matters. If happened then, it could well be happening again.

[Bandit]

23. How do you know that all the perps are dead?

Unless you accept totally the Warren Commission Report that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman you could not possibly know if any accomplices were alive or not. We do know one thing as fact. George Herbert Walker Bush was in Dallas on that day and he has no recollection of his whereabouts or what he did that day. Do you know any other American ,who was old enough to remember, that does not remember where they were on that day?

[MarionOHDemocrat]

24. Oswald did not do it

There is no way Oswald delivered the fatal gun shot. Back and to the left. We have all heard and seen it so many times. I think the Zapruder film proves that Oswald did not act alone, and to tell you the truth I dont think he even delivered one shot. I honestly dont think well ever find out what happened that day in Dallas.

[hang a left]

27. I agree and welcome.

We will never know exactly what happened in Dallas, or what exactly happened on 9-11. MIHOPS both of them.

[Zen Democrat]

36. We'll never what actually happened in Jerusalem 2000 years ago --

but people are still debating it.

Bill Hicks had a bit about the Kennedy Assassination where someone tells him ... "The Kennedy Assassination was so long ago, Bill, let it go.

And Bill says, "Let it go? Okay, then don't come telling me about Jesus, man, if we're talking shelf-life.

[ronabop]

34. Ever shoot animals in the head?

Multiple animals?

With various weapons?

I have.

Did you notice various, and wildly different, kinds of motion in response? Did you notice multiple kinds of resulting wounds?

I did.

I'll share one quick example.

Shoot an animal with a very short neck, say, a human, from the back, and to the right. Here's what happens:
1. Bullet enters, and exits, at such a speed that some cheap-ass camera simply can't capture it.
2. The force of the bullet (now exited in JFK's case) throws the short-necked head forward as an insane speed, and the head then rebounds in the opposite direction... back, and to the left.
3. As far as the blowback of brain matter:
http://www.ammoman.com/gunshots.html

Since the exit was from the throat, there was a large void to reduce the forward spray, but there was no such void on the back of the head to reduce spray.

Of course, often conspiracy junkies refuse to believe in science as a matter of faith, but who knows, maybe you learned something.

-Bop

[H2O Man]

47. I hunted for years.....

and know hundreds of other hunters. It's a giggle to pretend that if you shoot any large mammal, there is any chance that it will fly back in your direction. It has never happened. Ever. It simply can't.

[ronabop]

51. Heya H20 Man!

Love your posts in other threads. I tried to qualify and explain my remarks, so let me try again.

Get a rabbit. And a fast camera. Shoot the rabbit from the right. You will see:
1. Bullet goes through head.
2. Head quickly snaps away from shooter, towards the rabbit's shoulder.
3. Head then rebounds off of shoulder (from number 2), and bounces back towards shooter, much slower. Slow enough that it can be captured on a cheap 8mm camera.

Most hunters will be hunting such things as deer, or birds, which have very long necks. This means that there is much less "rebound" action from shoulders or chest with a head shot.

It's not that the shot means an animal "flies back" towards the shooter, it's the dissipation of energy from the shot and the resulting effects on a given physical organism.

Put much more crudely, rubble bounces.

-Bop

[Toots]

49. Have you ever seen a bullet smash through bone

and smash through bone in more than one place and remain in pristeen condition. I have never seen the reaction you are claiming and I also have done much shooting. It is possible I have actually fired more rounds than you and have in fact seen human beings shot at close range. In every single case when the bullet/s impacted, the target was knocked in the opposite direction of the entering round/s.

[ronabop]

52. You are talking about two issues, here.

1. Why does the bullet look so clean.

This seems obvious to me, my personal belief is that some idiot lost the real bullet, and tried to replace it. A long history of investigating security issues has taught me that rank ineptitude is always a more likely cause than malice.

2. Why would a shot person have a body part travel towards the shooter?

I tried to make myself clear above, but for purposes of clarification, let me make a series of exagerations to explain the effect. You are shooting a man. He is standing in front of a trampoline. You shoot him, and much to your surprise, after shooting him, his body travels *towards* you. You could explain this in more than one way:

a) He bounced off of the trampoline.
b) He was shot from the other direction at the same time.
c) There is a gigantic, secret, government conspiracy to place trampolines near assasination targets, to refute claims of multiple direction shots. The bunglers at the CIA, FBI, and NSA are all in on it. We have a secret government stockpile of trampolines, protected by men with black helicopters and blue helmets.

-Bop

[Zen Democrat]

35. E. Howard Hunt. He said he was eating lunch in a restaurant in

Washington, D.c. that didn't open until 1966. Nice try, Howard. After that, he said he didn't remember.

[Ladyhawk]

32. I always bought the official report.

What's a good book that takes on the Warren Commission? I haven't seen the movie JFK. Is that good or just speculation?

[ronabop]

33. Uhm, big problem with the four shot tape theory...

Four bangs, or even gunshots, heard on a tape, does not mean that the four sounds were shots were aimed at JFK.

The typical way of of debunking the 2nd gunman theory is by asking *where* the gunman was located, in such a way that he was unseen, and unnoticed, by all who were present. The overpass doesn't work, the sewer doesn't work, the grassy knoll doesn't work...

-Bop

[Zen Democrat]

37. You can theory this all you want. But the Warren Commission is a LIE

And the proof is in the reading of it. ALL of the eyewitnesses who saw or heard the picket fence shot were never called to testify. This included eyewitnesses closest to Kennedy when he was murdered. This included people with blood splattered on their clothes. Only people who heard 3 shots and saw nothing were called to testify.

I've heard scientific discussions about the head snap both pro and con. But the Parkland doctors said ON THE DAY OF THE ASSASSINATION that the back of his head was blown out. And that, my friend, is a frontal shot.

Not to mention the conundrum of Lee Oswald. The WC concluded he was not involved with any American intelligence agencies. What a laugh.

Can you possibly believe that two shots from a $12.95 Italian carbine that was discontinued in 1945 because it was a lousy firearm, and that had a misaligned scope, caused 7 wounds to Kennedy and Connally? Contrary to conventional public knowledge, this was not a high-powered rifle. And the head shot was from either a high-powered rifle, or from a handgun at close range.

Oswald was not even a shooter, in my opinion. Just a patsy, like he said.

[Disturbed]

38. Even if...

the conclusion is 4 shots it would not solve the case. It would widen it. Maybe in 50 yrs. whn the files are opened some may learn what really happened, maybe not.

[H2O Man]

42. Lee Harvey Oswald was "on loan"

from one US Intel agency to another .... not uncommon .... he was investigating the extreme right-wing groups, and believed he had warned authorities about the plan to kill the president. He was a smart kid, used by powerful forces, and set-up as the patsy.

When people say "it'll never be solved," it merely indicates they have not taken the time to study the case. It's like saying the OJ case will never be solved.

I enjoyed reading your post .... it is obvious that you are one of the many people who have taken the time to examine some of the facts involving the murder of the president.

[Minstrel Boy]

45. Wonderful point you make bears repeating:

When people say "it'll never be solved," it merely indicates they have not taken the time to study the case. It's like saying the OJ case will never be solved.

Well said.

[truth2power]

48. Waterman

You replied to my post in one of the early Plame threads.

You said that ( paraphrasing here) a lot of people say that the assassination of JFK was a coup. But what if the election of JFK was the coup-- the coming to power of those who dreamed a better world--and Kennedy's murder was simply the realigning of the power back into the hands of the elite corporate, oil, political interests.

At the time, I didn't really understand. But reading Farewell America pulled together a lot of the threads for me. Here are all those people Jim Garrison was talking about -- mobsters, anti-Castro Cubans, oilmen etc.

Yeah, you were right. JFK would have made things better, and Bobby planned to carry on, so he had to be taken out.

So sad for what our country could have been.

[H2O Man]

50. That's right.

That's it in a nutshell. JFK represented serious change in the direction the country would go. It hinged, obviously, on his being re-elected. If you read even a mild book (well-written, highly enjoyable) like Robert Dallek's 2003 "An Unfinished Life," when he discusses JFK's attempt to normalize relations with Cuba, he writes that if the exile community in Florida "had known about the Attwood initiative and the Daniel conversation, they would have been up in arms." (pg 663) Next, Dallek documents the plans to withdraw from Vietnam upon re-election.

Think about the changes to the economic system, and you see WHY he had to be removed. I've said a number of times on DU that Martin Luther King, Jr only upset the red-neck racists when he "fought" for the right to drink coffee or use a restroom with white folk. The power elite doesn't drink coffee in redneck diners, and they don't use public restrooms, so to speak. When King turned the corner -- see his April 4 1967 speech -- he was marked as a threat to the power elite. Or, when Minister Malcolm preached a hateful separatist theology, the power elite didn't care. Hell, they funded Elijah. Texas oil funded the nation for years. But when Malcolm evolved beyond hatred, and took the world-view, and went to the United Nations, he was marked. He threatened the system.

If you take the best qualities of JFK, MLK, and Malcolm .... in my opinion .... you have the mature Robert Kennedy. Not the hard-edged guy that lacked compasion. No. The evolved RFK that threatened the system.

But remember: these men did not die in vain. King often quoted the poet's line, that Truth crushed to Earth will Rise again. And that's what we're seeing today. In America.

[H2O Man]

40. Unseen and unnoticed?

That's funny....because if you watch any film of 11-22-63, just after the shooting, a large % of the crowd does head right in the direction of the grassy knoll. And a number of people there did notice people there moments before the killing.

What's really silly is the "magic bullet" theory .... which was a rather late addition to the Warren Report. They were forced to add it when the "missed shot" was located. The final shot that hit President Kennedy came from the grassy knoll. To pretend the magic bullet represents reality is sad, indeed.

An interesting voice of reason, in my opinion, came from Tip O'Neill, in his 1987 autobiography, "Man of the House." On page 211, he tells how he had always tended to believe the Warren Report, until Kennedy aides Dave Powers and Kenny O'Donnell -- who were right there in Dallas -- explained to him that shots came from the grassy knoll. When Tip asked why they hadn't told the authorities, they explained they had, but the FBI convinced them that they needed to lie to the Warren Commission for the good of the country. I think most Americans would say that lies and magic bullets are what "don't fit" in the true story of what happened.

[Bucky]

41. There's one shooter location you haven't thought of (or mentioned)

.

Right out there in the open!!

[Pepperbelly]

44. Ann Coulter!!!!!

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