Noticing all the networks covering the Albany NY "sting"

[Ducks In A Row]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/05/ny.missile.sting/

Wanna bet the two guys will be cleared, but there won't be any news conference covered by the shilling whores to declare that innocence and to apologize.

[girl gone mad]

1. I was thinking the same thing.

Also caught Pataki saying what a great job the administration is doing in the war on terror.

[tom_paine]

2. Who would be dumb enough to take THAT bet

That Amerikan Pravda Profile has been repeated so often one doesn;t even have to guess whether it will happen.

Like the Soviet Union & Nazi Germany, one can be 100% ASSURED it WILL happen.

Back pages of some newspapers, NO Corporate TV Pravda AT ALL.

It is a given, like Berger being cleared or any of 1000 other incidents since tyhe Bloodless Coup of 2000.

[msanthrope]

3. Probably not cleared.....

If it's money laundering, the FBI will have plenty of wiretap/audio on this, and usually the physical evidence of the money itself. They always do.

Money laundering stings are one thing that the FBI usually does right, and usually has down to a science.

Beware people who offer you a generous fee for helping them out of a jam, and then show up with a duffel bag full of money.

[AbsolutSprint]

4. What do you think?

I mean, in a case like this, is it better safe then sorry? What if they really planned an attack and carried it out, who would be to blame then? Hopefully the justice system will sort cases like this out, if they're innocent, it will (hopefully) come out, if they aren't innocent, they might have just saved a few hundred lives. Which is the worse of the two?

-Joe

[Ducks In A Row]

5. how about not parading crap like this just to shill for Bush

because that's all it is, and it continues to destroy our country.

Why does the Bush hate America so much that he kills everything good about this country we love?

[AbsolutSprint]

7. but..

I don't think these arrests were politically motivated to help Bush. If they wipped out Osama right before the election - then yes - but not some two bit thugs from Albany in August. I think thats part of the extreme left of our democratic party - they are too soon to label things as right-wing conspiracies and it makes many view the entire democratic party as left wing conspiracy theory lunatics. And you know the Republicans end up playing off that fact, so it actually helps them.

-Joe

[janx]

8. The arrests themselves probably weren't, you're right.

That's not the problem. The problem is what the Bush* administration does with information like this. When the administration starts to campaign using fear--such as Tom Ridge's campaigning for Bush* during his terror alert conference or Laura's and the twins' campaining at Citigroup in New York on the first day of the most recent alert--THAT's where it gets ridiculous.

And that had absolutely nothing to do with "conspiracy theory." That is fact.

Why on earth would the president send his family to campaign for him at an attack target on the first day of the alert? Why would the administration allow such a thing?

[AbsolutSprint]

9. well..

Well, the Citigroup situation is completely different then this situation. You can't really compare them, unless Bush shows up tomorrow at the mosque for a campaign rally....

-Joe

[janx]

10. Let's let the law take care of this and hope that justice is

served.

And let's hope that nobody shows up at the mosque to campaign for him.

It's getting to be very bad form, Joe.

[AbsolutSprint]

11. yep

..thats for sure

[Ducks In A Row]

14. The arrests will turn out to be completely bogus

the two men will not have been laundering money. And unless the evidence suddenly goes missing, there will not be any evidence showing they had any idea about buying missiles.

Of course it will take 2 years to find this out, because it's all sealed and even the defense attorneys will be in the dark about what lies the agents are telling. Of course the two men will be beggered defending themselves and will never get an apology.

Just remember what happen to the chaplain in Guantanamo. This is going to turn out to be same and it's all about pretending Bush is in control, when in truth he is destroying us.

[AbsolutSprint]

15. Ploys

Again, must we automatically assume every time someone is arrest, that it is a right wing Bush Conspiracy? My neighbor was just raided by the FBI under suspicion of being a member of the mafia. That obviously is another ploy by Bush.

[Ducks In A Row]

17. In this case it's almost perfect time to distract from McCain

I mean you can't have the news talking about how McCain was screwed over the same ways as Bush is doing to Kerry.

It's all bullshit.

[bossfish]

6. But why is the first impulse to crow about..

Law Enforcement doing their job that is routine?

And how the "president's leadership" is working...

[Jacobin]

12. It stinks to high heaven

Undercover dudes ask two muslims to buy them a banned weapon. If they have tapes I'd like to see them. If they don't, I don't trust what the undercover dudes said they heard.

Too easy to make shit up.

Oh, and of course no weapons were obtained or delivered. Is there any chance at all that the guys they arrested even knew where to start looking.

It stinks.

[cthrumatrix]

13. based on the past performance of our covert agencies...we can no

longer trust what they say...sooo sad.

[dmkinsey]

16. People selling missiles

are the same as people who say they'll kill for a fee- they're generally cops. And your busted

[milkyway]

18. Get ready for a "terrorist-of-the-day" capture from now til November.

What a big fucking surprise that as the campaign heats up we're seeing a lot more media-friendly terrorism events. Don't miss this article from Asia Times saying that Pakistan is holding captured terrorists in safe houses, to be presented as bush needs them during the campaign.

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Already, though, under intense pressure from the US, Pakistan has handed over as many as 350 suspected al-Qaeda operators into US custody. Most have been low-ranking, but some important names are, according to Asia Times Online contacts, being held in Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) safe houses to be presented at the right moment.

The contacts say that Pakistan's strategic circles see the high-value al-Qaeda operators as "bargaining chips" to ensure continued US support for President General Pervez Musharraf's de facto military rule in Pakistan. Had Pakistan handed over top targets such as Osama bin Laden, his deputy Dr Aiman al-Zawahir, Tahir Yuldash (leader of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan) and others - assuming it was in a position to do so - the military rulers would have lost their usefulness to the US in its "war on terror".
_________

http://atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/FH04Df03.html

[Ducks In A Row]

19. the backtracking seems to be happening early

Just heard a CNN quick report that the two weren't looking to buy missiles. They just wanted to raise funds for other terrorists

I guess they took another look at what the convicted felon (not a real agent, just a piece of slime looking to reduce his sentence) bought them, and gee... nothing about missiles.

It's going to get better for the two men, but not quickly and not in the limelight.

Just like that last time they accused three Muslims of buying missiles.

I don't see the update on CNN's web site yet. It'll probably be hidden in the back of the site, and hard to find.

[NeoConsSuck]

20. If the clowns at 200 McCarthy Ave. were involved with this..

and they were, you can bet this case is going to unravel.