Rightwingers going nuts about Kerry's announcement already.

[blm]

MSNBC just had Dreier and Blanquita Collum on raking Kerry over the coals. They said that this stunt will invite questions about Kerry's actual service record and it won't look good. HAHAHAH

These people don't see the irony of their statements or bother to note their lack of questioning about BUSH'S service record?

[bluestateguy]

1. Drier should shut his cakehole

Did he serve?




That's what I thought.

[JaneQPublic]

18. Rep David Dreier is a Lying Sack

He honked me off one night when he was on Crossfire, hammering on that lie that the recession started during Clinton's administration.

I e-mailed his congressional website that evening, providing links to findings by the National Bureau of Economic Research that the recession began in March 2001, during Bush's administration.

A few weeks later, he was back on Crossfire, again spewing the lies about the recession beginning on the Big Dog's watch.

No good Repuke like Dreier will allow silly little facts to sway him from his assigned GOP Talking Points.

[gratuitous]

2. Yeah, Kerry's Medal of Honor will look awfully tarnished

When you put it up against President Stupidhead's AWOL!

Some people have disparaged Kerry for this little stunt, but I think that it's pretty good. The mileage he'll get out of it will offset by quite a bit any negative repercussions. If it truly bothers you, and you'd ordinarily like to support Kerry otherwise, I'd suggest you just put it behind you.

[IndianaGreen]

4. John Kerry did not receive the Medal of Honor!

Former Nebraska Governor and Senator Bob Kerrey was the recipient of the Medal of Honor.

[blm]

10. Yup...and I think Collum has

the two mixed up, too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Bob Kerrey

was the first Medal of Honor winner to serve in the Senate since Reconstruction

[IndianaGreen]

19. That's one stat I wasn't aware of

Bob Kerrey was the first Medal of Honor winner to serve in the Senate since Reconstruction

Thanks for the info. That is a significant statistic.

[wuushew]

6. his medals

Senator John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat

[Octafish]

7. Kerry received Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts

John Kerry received these during his second tour of duty in Vietnam, when he was the CO of a fast river patrol boat. As Indiana Green (himself a US veteran) noted, Bob Kerrey, the former Senator from Nebraska, received the Medal of Honor.

[gratuitous]

9. Yeah you dope!

Get yer facts straight, gratuitous!

Boy, is my face red. Sorry, folks. Never happen again. {Clasps hands behind back, looks down in shame.}

[oneighty]

13. A common mistake gratuitous.

Un-redden your face! You are among friends.

180

[Redleg]

42. Kerry is mocking that dumbfuck Bush.

What a great day that will be!

[RobertSeattle]

3. Haiku...

Squawk Squawk Chickenhawk
Did you serve - Talk Talk Balk Balk
Squawk Squawk Chickenhawk

[Bake]

51. Nice haiku!

I didn't count the syllables; I presume they're right.

The PUkes get real touchy about the Chickenhawk thing -- because they KNOW they're weak on it! The other night Conason was on Tweety and the Puke on the other side got really honked about it.

I say we keep hammering on it.

Bake

[Parche]

5. If this is true

The USS Yorktown is a museum in Charleston
John Kerry is not going to "land" on it like smirk did
He will probably just announce something in a speach, on the famous carrier!!!!


JOHN KERRY PRESIDENT 2004

[blm]

8. What they're afraid of is Kerry getting the support

of the veterans and the military. Add that to the Firefighters vote and Kerry makes a serious dent in the white male vote that Bush depends on. This is a direct attack on where Bush is "perceived" to be strongest. This really is a hoot.

[HawkerHurricane]

44. They should be afraid.

Lots of 'anybody but Bush' voters on my ship.

[waldenx]

11. Is Kerry

going to throw his medals into the Potomac (again)?
Or is it not politically beneficial this time?

[gratuitous]

12. Why should he do that again?

Didn't you understand the significance of the gesture the first time he did it?

[wuushew]

14. Here is the info

Kerry became even more of a press celebrity during a highly publicized "anti-war" protest when he threw medals the press reported were his over a barricade and onto the steps of the Capitol. Kerry never mentioned that the medals he so gloriously tossed were not his own. The 1988 issue of Current Biography Yearbook explained: " . . . the ones he had discarded were not his own but had belonged to another veteran who asked him to make the gesture for him. When a 'Washington Post' reporter asked Kerry about the incident, he said: 'They're my medals. I'll do what I want with them. And there shouldn't be any expectations about them.'" Kerry's medals have reappeared, today hanging in his Senate office, now that it is "politically correct" for a U.S. Senator to be portrayed as a Vietnam War hero. Alas, so much for integrity.


http://www.usvetdsp.com/story10.htm

[chimpymustgo]

16. Hey did you risk your life?

Yeah, sure.

[Changenow]

46. Kerry may not be my choice at this point

But your point that a symbolic gesture made almost 40 years ago somehow negates heroic acts preformed while serving honorably? Get a grip! We are to pretend that he didn’t get the medals because he was angry about the war?! He earned those honors and whether he maintained physical possession of them is entirely irrelevant to the fact that he served heroically, which is why they were awarded.

Here is hypocrisy for you, pretending to have served honorably when in fact you were getting drunk and falling down and going AWOL.

[Liberator_Rev]

50. You tell em, Changenow

He EARNED those medals. He had the right to use them to enhance his protest ("Actions speak louder than words") And he didn't UNEARN the right to display them to make a DIFFERENT statement 40 years later.

I might prefer Kucinich now, but if Kerry ends up being our candidate, we should be ready to defend him then and should be defending him as one of OUR war heroes regardless.

[DrFunkenstein]

53. Joe Klein Called This Trash Out Long Ago In The New Yorker

Be careful when you lie down with dogs.

[wuushew]

56. I originally meant to cite that source in quotes

but the edit period expired last night. True or untrue I simply wished find out what this "threw his medals out twice was".


I don't hate Kerry, he is my very close number 2 pick behind Dean.

I apologize to any Kerry fans who were offended.

[DrFunkenstein]

58. No Offense Taken

I tried to get the relevant passages, but the only place left was from the Kerry website, and they recently cleaned out their old articles. I have the article in print, but I'm too lazy to type all that.;)

[GalleryGod]

31. No he probably wasn't BORN yet?

I was there. 60 feet away.

[Demobrat]

17. What is the point anyway?

Unless he gets up there and blatantly attacks Bush's AWOL, he's just going to look like a copycat.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. A flagwaving stunt like his pal bush's.

Now that the left has abandoned his sorry ass, he has to go somewhere for votes.

[blm]

21. Haha...we'll see.

He'll be the furthest left president of my lifetime.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. Yes, we will see

how long Kerry lasts before he drops out and blames the left. Or, is nominated, and defeated, and blames the left.

Let's hope it's the former.

[GalleryGod]

33. Sorry for the pain you're about to endure.

Deano:spank: Kerry

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

45. true, Mr Forbes-Kerry should call Bush on their fake patriotism

Kerry should come right out and talk about Bush's (and his) priviledged upbringing and how that gave them a lot more options than most people had, and I hope he plays hardball and attacks Bush for his AWOL too. If Kerry goes on the attack on national security issues, great.

[DrFunkenstein]

54. Kerry On Privilege And Bush

Candidate: John Kerry
Category: General Likeability
Grade: A

One of the most grating elements of American politics is the impulse for rich candidates to affect the symbolism of the middle class. (Witness the dauphin George W. Bush at his hardscrabble Texas ranch, jus' clearin' brush.) Cultural experience is of course not the sum total of anyone's character, but the impulse to obscure a privileged background for political gain is a glaring character flaw.

And in a primary where John Edwards pushes his millworker pedigree with Tourette's-like frequency, and Dick Gephardt counters that neither of his parents finished high school, the pressure for the better heeled candidates to play down their not-so-humble beginnings must be intense.

So give John Kerry credit for bucking this condescending campaign ritual. At a Mason City, Iowa, bowling alley, he framed his background in the noblest political tradition: "George Bush went to a nice, fancy high school like I did, but I came out of my fancy high school asking the question, 'Why can't everybody have a school like this?'"

That hits all the right notes--candor about inherited wealth, noblesse oblige, and a concern for the broader national interest. The media frequently invoke Kerry's Brahmin heritage to suggest that he's culturally isolated from the electorate, but the honesty and civic-mindedness Kerry displayed yesterday are quintessentially American cultural virtues.

http://www.tnr.com/primary/index.mhtml?pid=608

[Bandit]

57. Kerry has "Class" if nothing else.

And IMHO he has everything needed to lead this nation out of the doldrums Bush* has created.

[Changenow]

49. Maybe he will.

We can hope, if he does I will take a careful look at him for the first time since his war vote.

Dean has the support he does for one reason, if Kerry starts treating Bush like what he is maybe he can get back in the race.

[ComerPerro]

22. This will bring about two things:

First, it will draw tons of cirticism towards Kerry.

Hopefully, though, it will make Dumbya look like a complete ass.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. Hopefully, you're right on both counts.

Kerry certainly deserves the criticism for his support of bush.

The fratboy warrior hardly needs help looking like a complete ass but every little bit helps.

[David Zephyr]

24. Like Comerpero Says, This Will Also Focus on the Chickenhawks

I don't see anything wrong with John Kerry doing this at all.

[Demobrat]

27. I don't see anything wrong with it, but

I don't really get it either. BLM? I know you're a Kerry guy. What's he doing?

[blm]

28. Veterans for Kerry

are launching a campaign to spotlight Bush's actual record of service (read AWOL) and to spotlight Bush's real agenda against the military and its veterans. This is just the beginning.

Bush HAS no good answer to any of the questions that the comparisons will raise.

[GalleryGod]

37. For All Those "Marble Mountain" Men.

Well done,Fellas! Take it to that snivelling little depends customer.

[blm]

38. Max Cleland and the Veterans' Revenge Tour 2004

Bush will rue the day.

[Bandit]

47. "Marble Mountain"

Is this a reference to the marble mountain just south of Da Nang. I was there for a short stay once many many years ago.

[Demobrat]

39. Rock on, then.

Whoever does the best job of busting Bush deserves the nomination.

[xchrom]

25. repukes have a sexual fetish

for other peoples military records.

[onehandle]

29. Max Cleland will introduce Senator Kerry for his Annoucement...

In my email...

Dear friends in Georgia,

John Kerry is coming to South Carolina to set forth his vision for America, and he would like you to be there. The Kerry announcement tour hits Charleston on September 2nd with a rally at Patriot's Point. Our own Max Cleland will be introducing Kerry as he makes this historic announcement.

We hope to see you there!

When:
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:00 am

Where:
Patriot's Point, Mt. Pleasant, in front of the USS Yorktown

[GalleryGod]

34. REAL Heros. REAL Men. Tested in Combat.

Take it to 'em Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JI7]

43. max cleland rules

how could georgia vote for that moron over cleland ? then again, maybe they didn't.

[JI7]

30. HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH

"invite questions about kerry's actual service record and it wont look good" HAHHAHAH. i say "bring em on". HAHHAHAH. and then we can compare kerry's actual service record to the shit in the white house.

[poskonig]

32. They could get in a few Dukakis digs.

However, if Kerry handles it well, he'll get in a few Bush digs back to reporters and look less flaccid to Democrats.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

35. Prediction= Backfire.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see this thing flying off the tracks.

[aquart]

36. Out of Loop. What stunt? What announcement?

Embarrassed by my ignorance.

[Starpass]

40. I thought Kerry was going to do this in Boston in fron of Old Ironsides

When did it get moved to S.C.??? Or is he doing both. He was suppose to compare Old Ironsides fighting against terrany (sp.?) and then talk about what we are subjected to in this country today. Is he still going to "do" Boston???????????

[Octafish]

41. The USS Constitution would be ideal.

As you so well-stated, Starpass, there is no more fitting symbol for our country — and its future. You should be in PR!

[blm]

48. Maybe since the Dem convention is in Boston

he wanted to spread it around more. Also, I think he is signalling that he is going straight at Bush's perceived strengths and challenging him on his horseshit military strategy in one of the biggest military states and Bush strongholds.

This could be the big FUCK YOU BUSH for what was done to McCain and Cleland.

[gulliver]

52. Gutsy move.

No guts no glory. Kerry's going to win a lot of respect if he pulls this off. It's bold and shows courage.

As I see it, the Dems have no choice but to take risks and be bold. Bush is "bold" in the sense that he has unlimited gall. There is no way to counterract that without taking risks. So far, many of the other candidates have pushed the button on Bush -- Clark too. I'm glad to see Kerry doing this. It definitely has my attention.

[Sweetpea]

55. Did you say going nuts or continuing the road to nutdom.

[DrFunkenstein]

59. Is This The End to The Summer of Dean?

Or are we in for one hell of a race?