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Brian_Expat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:58 PM
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Uh oh. Latest polling shows Keyes ahead of Obama. We're in trouble. . .
APRIL FOOLS!

OK, so it's not April, but I wasn't able to do a good April Fool's joke this year. It's a bit late. ;)
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:00 PM
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1. HEY DUDE....
it's not April....
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:00 PM
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2. LOL! I knew this had to be a joke!
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:01 PM
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3. An April Fools Joke...
or the next Gallup Poll? Same difference.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:04 PM
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4. Well if Obama doesn't respond better than he did on the slaveholder
question, we could be in trouble. He seemed at a total loss and directed the race baiter Keyes to his racist party for guidence.
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Brian_Expat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:09 PM
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5. Well, right now there's a poll that shows Keyes ahead of Obama!
The latest poll by the Chicago Tribune shows that 72% of Illinoisans plan to vote for Keyes' opponent, versus just 28% of people planning to vote for Obama's opponent.

Keyes is ahead by a LANDSLIDE! ;)
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:15 PM
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9. that's saaaaaaaad
you know the hard-core GOP vote is above 30%, so if keyes is in the 20's...
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:17 PM
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10. re-read that post again, play on words ;)
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:17 PM
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12. Yes, BUT
are you talking about the poll they run every day, the unscientific one?
Obama is gonna have to start hitting tax cheat, carpetbaggin' Keyes between his eyes.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:13 PM
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6. yeah, Obama has to be quicker
Keyes is DANGEROUS! I think Keyes is so off the wall, out of line, etc., in his remarks, though, that he can take you by surprise. And that is what is happening to Obama. Obama can't just be taking these constant attacks. He is going to end up looking like Keyes has the upper hand with no response.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 01:16 PM
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22. Keyes challenging Obama to step down
Keyes: "If he's not ready for me, he's not ready for the Senate of the United States."

Keyes challenging Obama to more than 2 or 3 debates. from Chicago Sun Times 8/11

(I want gutter dog Keyes to get less than 1% of the vote. He doesn't even deserve that much.)






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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:15 PM
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8. What was wrong with that response.
He pointed out that it was inappropriate and wondered if even his own party would support such speech.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:23 PM
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14. Obama has to start getting feistier
Maybe he should have added: Is Keyes registered to vote in this state YET, just to give a dig back and remind the voters, reporters and Keyes AGAIN this guy doesn't belong in IL at all! Let Keyes know Obama can jab back and he isn't gonna takes Keyes's shit. Let Keyes know he is gonna get it dished right back to him. As I have said elsewhere on DU, remember Max Cleland.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:33 PM
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16. Unlike in some other elections...
...Keyes wasn't pulled in to win, he was pulled in to throw some pitch and tar. Why do you think they went out of state? Keyes is just the kind of guy you want to bring in when you want to just scattershot spray crazy ass shit. Remember him in the Republican 2000 Primaries?

It's McCain, Keyes and Bush sitting at the table for a debate. After a lot of back and forth with McCain and Bush, Keyes just goes "silently ballistic". Bombastic, "You are ignoring me because I'm a black Republican." WHY YES KEYES, WE ARE. YOU ARE AN ABSURD MOTHER FUCKER the Illinois GOP hauled in-state so you'd make the IL Senatorial contest a friggin spectacle for national coverage of GOP pet wedge issues.

I'm sick of the GOP setting out obvious traps, and then crying foul when they are called on it. And I'm sick of dems stepping into those traps. Fuck that shit. Should one really be surprised when the skinhead stands up and just says something outrageously off-kilter? And besides, there's nothing Keyes hates more than BEING DISMISSED AS A NOVELTY.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:41 PM
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18. good points, but here's the Trib story today
by the reporters covering the Senate campaign. This is only the first few paragraphs. The reporters are using a headline not quite very flattering to Obama. Primal scream!!! Obama is just going to have to start beating up on carpetbaggin' tax cheating whackjob Keyes and all of his space cadet ideas. I am hoping the national GOP campaign gives Keyes zero bucks. As the papers run these kind of headlines of that biblebeater shooting his ignorant reactionary mouth off, Obama's numbers will drop. I wrote to these two reporters a few days back that they should be checking Keyes' tax records (and liens) but that takes a lot of work and this kind of crap is easy and makes for headlines. Keyes lied to the IL GOP about his tax liens and debts per some Ken Dillard and others commenting about what went on behind closed doors at the Union League Club last week.The IL Leader people have brought this moron in to win although they know it will be an uphill battle. A lot depends on what the GOP moderates will do, like Topinka, Edgar, Thompson, Dillard, etc. They can't stand Keyes, but whether they fully support him in the end remains to be seen. Keyes was brought up about a month ago by the pro lifer fringe and lo and behold here is is spewing his extremist venom all over the place. Why the GOP moderates let this nutcase get through ....
I would have much preferred lyin'Ryan v. Obama because the sex club stuff was too funny and the GOP was squirming and self-destructing. The biblebeater extremists are energizing.
------partial trib article below

Obama runs away, Keyes says
New GOP Senate candidate calls for 6 debates

By Liam Ford and David Mendell
Tribune staff reporters
Published August 11, 2004

Saying Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama was once a Muhammad Ali-like figure willing to debate any Republican rival and now is "running out of the ring" to avoid debates, GOP nominee Alan Keyes challenged his opponent Tuesday to debate anytime, anywhere.

Saying Obama is trying to downplay the need for debates, Keyes said he would like to keep to a schedule of six debates that Obama proposed in June.

When he was facing Jack Ryan, he was Abraham Lincoln. When he was facing an empty chair, possibly, he was Muhammad Ali," said Keyes, referring to the world-champion boxer's willingness to fight all challengers. "I step into the ring and what happens? Well, all of a sudden, he's running out of the ring, looking for the ropes, sizing up the number of exits."

But Obama said he is not shying away from debate opportunities. His campaign said three debates are tentatively set for October and another may be scheduled in September.

Having at least three debates should give voters plenty of guidance about each candidate's stance on the issues, Obama said.

"At this point, the schedule is getting short, and we are not going to have my schedule and the schedule of my campaign dictated by somebody who just arrived two days ago," Obama said.

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:58 PM
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20. and one more thing
is that Obama has had the very major luck of having lyin'Ryan self destructing for a few weeks and then the GOP looking like idiots for a month afterward when they had no candidate. Zero competition and he was basking in the incredible glow of being the one and only candidate. Now the vicious attack dog is here and Obama just HAS to start taking a more proactive strategy to put whackjob Keyes in his place. What worked the last few weeks before Sunday 2pm (Keyes/ victory for God) isn't gonna cut it now, imho.

Yes Keyes is setting out traps all over the place. But Obama doesn't have to respond to that. He can just keep grinding away at Keyes carpetbagging, tax cheating, his zero knowledge of IL, his extremist positions, etc.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:14 PM
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7. Careful with that ax
Eugene
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:17 PM
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11. I just say--
wait until the debates! Keyes will look like a stumbling fool! Obama is smart! I have no worries!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:18 PM
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13. If I'd had the hiccups when I read this,
you would have scared them out of me.


Keyes is a freak.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 10:28 PM
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15. "We're in trouble. . ." - Classic troll line
You got me!

Another classic:

I hate Bush as much as anybody, but...
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 11:35 PM
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17. Someone spank that guy!
:spank:

You had me worried there for a sec!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 12:43 PM
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19. AAAHHHH!!! I almost had a heart attack over this!
Glad it was just a joke :D
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 01:00 PM
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21. Bri...you scamp!
:-)

How are things in London these days with you?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 01:34 PM
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23. I heard Keyes himself say he had to win this for God! So, I quess God
Edited on Wed Aug-11-04 01:35 PM by doc03
is on his side.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 01:38 PM
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24. you are so bad
:)
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thedecline Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 02:25 PM
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25. Wow
You scared the hell out of me for a second.

Whew.
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