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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:04 PM
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John O'Neil lying again on Scarborough
Fucking asshole is claiming not to be a Republican despite the 15K he donated to the GOP!
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:07 PM
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1. Not a Republican eh?
Swift Boat Vets Honcho Lied About Political Activity
By WILLIAM D. McTAVISH
Capitol Hill Blue Staff Writer
Aug 16, 2004, 07:30



John O'Neill, leader of the Swift-Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT) attacks against Democratic Presidential candidate John F. Kerry's Vietnam service record, lied on national television about his political activities and affiliation.

O'Neill, first recruited to go after Kerry by the Nixon administration in 1971, said on CNN's Crossfire on August 12 that "I've had no serious involvement in politics of any kind in over 32 years." O'Neill also denied being a Republican.

Yet Federal Election Commission records show O'Neill has contributed $14,650 to political candidates -- all Republicans -- since 1990. Voter registration rolls in Harris County, Texas, show O'Neill is, in fact, a registered Republican who has voted in every Republican primary since 1972.

O'Neill, a Houston lawyer, clerked for Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist, a Nixon appointee.  According to Texas Lawyer magazine, O'Neill lobbied for an appointment to the federal bench by former President George H.W. Bush and cited his involvement in local GOP politics. He made it to the White House's short list but did not get the appointment. 



Records compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics show O'Neill contributes only to Republicans. His contributions since 1990 include:

2004: $2,000 to Duane Sand (ND)



1999: $1,000 to Peter Staub Wareing (TX)


1998: $250 to Rudy Izzard (TX)


1996: $1,000 to Brent Perry (TX)


1994: $2,500 to Texas Republican Congressional Committee


1993: $2,500 to Texas Republican Congressional Committee


1992: $1,000 to Texas Republican Congressional Committee


1992: $1,000 George H.W. Bush


1992: $1,000 to Clark Kent Ervin (TX)


1991: $1,000 to Clark Kent Ervin (TX)


1990: $400 to Hugh Dunham Shine (TX)


1990: $1,000 to A Tribute To Ronald Reagan


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_5042.shtml
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:09 PM
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2. Maybe we should write/email to Scarborough
I don't understand that O'Neill is on TV again. But then, the only shows that are currently having him are those right-wing hacks. Everyone else was smart enough to figure out that this is just a smear campaign by some lying a**holes who hate dissent.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:12 PM
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4. The asshole was on clear channel for over
an hour Saturday! He was destroyed last week, and yet he still gets to continue telling lies.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:10 PM
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3. IF Joe "what dead girl' scabrous was a journalist....
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 09:11 PM by nostamj
he say:

but John, weren't you recruited by Charles Colson to work with the Nixon administration to discredit John Kerry over 30 years ago? I mean, I've seen the Cavett appearance... what are you talking about John
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:19 PM
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5. Scarface Does It Again...
Says he'll let Hurley answer some damaging (and most probably more lies) charges from O'Neill. Joey says he'll let Hurley have the first word when the commercial break is over. When the program returns, Intern boy starts with TWO "questions" to O'Neill, were nothing more than more free time for this traitor to slime.

Sickening.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:51 PM
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6. Even the Repukes don't want to claim someone like him.
Who on earth would want to be associated with such an obvious liar?
Hell, he makes Scott Peterson look believable.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:54 PM
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7. Chris Matthews got on
O'Neill on his show the other day. Didn't give him a bit of wriggle room. Just tore him limb from limb. You should have seen it.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 10:17 PM
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11. The transcript of that show is amazing
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5694561/

I think Chris launched on Oneill after Oneill said this:

O‘NEILL: Not at all. The USS Gridley was not a tour in Vietnam. It was a ship way off the coast of Vietnam.

MATTHEWS: But my brother was on one of those ships that was off the shore. And that was considered combat.

O‘NEILL: He was there for five weeks on the Gridley off the coast.

MATTHEWS: But was that recorded as combat theater duty?

O‘NEILL: Absolutely.

(CROSSTALK)

O‘NEILL: But he was on the Gridley for five weeks off the coast.

MATTHEWS: OK.

Let‘s try to use Naval language and Naval rulings here and not personal reflections.

O‘NEILL: Sure.

MATTHEWS: OK.

Was he given credit, John Hurley, for serving in Vietnam when he was on that ship?

HURLEY: Yes. Yes.

MATTHEWS: Was he given credit by the Navy for serving in Vietnam?

O‘NEILL: Yes. But it would never have been considered a tour in Vietnam by the Navy or anybody else.


So basically, O'Neill told Matthews that his brother's tour of duty didn't mean shit, either, by his definition because he was on a ship that spent some time patroling off the coast of Vietnam--and that's what set Matthews onto smoking O'Neill throughout the show.
The exchange gets more fantastic the further into the show you go.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 08:47 AM
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12. I saw that one too - He kicked O'Neill's butt.
It was the first time I ever saw Matthews completely on our side of any issue. I think he is going to vote Kerry this time. His tone has changed completely since the convention.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 10:00 PM
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8. I am concerned about the so called conflicts in the book "Tour of Duty"
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 10:04 PM by mzmolly
as compared to the official record. :shrug:

I'll search the Kerry website for info unless someone can beat me to it.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 10:14 PM
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10. Ok here's the scoop on the so called discrepancy.
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 10:14 PM by mzmolly
The Third Purple Heart

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth further says Kerry didn't deserve his third purple heart, which was received for shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on right forearm. The Swift Boat group's affidavits state that the wound in Kerry's backside happened earlier that day in an accident. "Kerry inadvertently wounded himself in the fanny," Thurlow said in his affidavit, "by throwing a grenade too close (to destroy a rice supply) and suffered minor shrapnel wounds."

The grenade incident is actually supported by Kerry's own account, but the shrapnel wound was only part of the basis for Kerry's third purple heart according to official documents. The evidence here is contradictory.

Kerry's account is in the book Tour of Duty by Douglas Brinkley, who based it largely on Kerry's own Vietnam diaries and 12 hours of interviews with Kerry. "I got a piece of small grenade in my ass from one of the rice-bin explosions and then we started to move back to the boats," Kerry is quoted as saying on page 313. In that account, Kerry says his arm was hurt later, after the mine blast that disabled PCF-3, when a second explosion rocked his own boat. "The concussion threw me violently against the bulkhead on the door and I smashed my arm," Kerry says on page 314.

And according to a Navy casualty report released by the Kerry campaign, the third purple heart was received for "shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on his right forearm when a mine detonated close aboard PCF-94," Kerry's boat. As a matter of strict grammar, the report doesn't state that both injuries were received as a result of the mine explosion, only the arm injury.

The official citation for Kerry's Bronze Star refers only to his arm injury, not to the shrapnel wound to his rear. It says he performed the rescue "from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain." The description of Kerry's arm "bleeding" isn't consistent with the description of a "contusion," or bruise.

Rassmann's Aug. 10 Wall Street Journal article states that Kerry's arm was "wounded by the explosion that threw me off his boat," which would make that wound clearly enemy-inflicted.

In any case, even a "friendly fire" injury can qualify for a purple heart "as long as the 'friendly' projectile or agent was released with the full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment," according to the website of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. All agree that rice was being destroyed that day on the assumption that it otherwise might feed Viet Cong fighters.


http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231

PHEW! And this is according to factcheck which may be RW from what I understand.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 10:08 PM
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9. Just another sign of just how desperate they are about November
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 10:08 PM by Postman
Bush is going to lose the election and they fear it.

Funny how a Democrat can never get a break from these wackos. Clinton was no good because he dodged the draft and Kerry's no good because the shrapnel that he took while saving another man's life wasn't big enough.

There is no pleasing the lying rightwing lunatics. Its all about November and they know they are going to lose.
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