burythehatchet
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:25 PM
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Serious question - Consider the choices carefully |
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Edited on Fri Aug-20-04 03:27 PM by burythehatchet
What would you rather see happen, assuming for a moment that both don't happen;
Democrats in control of the White House,
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Democrats in control of congress?
on edit ... and why?
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:26 PM
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1. sorry to say, Congress n/t |
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:26 PM
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2. Congress. We could block all legislation from * |
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:29 PM
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we could also prosecute a lot of criminals in govt.
But what about our relations with the world?
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:32 PM
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but Congress can do an end run around Asscrack and start their own investigations into things like gross conflict of interest, lying to Congress, obstruction of justice in the Plame affair, etc. They can even impeach the little creep.
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:27 PM
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3. Hmmm that is a tough one. |
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But Id say Dems->WhiteHouse
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:28 PM
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A president has much more leeway in foreign policy, and can basically tell Congress to buzz off if he wants to on foreign affairs.
Also, having control of the executive branch allows you to interpret and administer laws passed by Congress. They can pass all the laws they want, but we would get to interpret them!
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:30 PM
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7. does the exec branch interpret? I suspect that falls more to the |
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:43 PM
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Look at the way the present administration is "reinterpreting" laws. Mountaintop removal mining is now OK; the law hasn't changed, only the interpretation. By making such changes in hundreds of federal regulations, the White House can essentially change the laws to mean the very opposite of what they meant when passed.
The president has lots of power; appointments, interpretations. He can even decide to spend or not spend money that congress has appropriated on all sorts of projects.
I wish the split of power were a little more equitable, but for now, the presidency seems overwhelmingly more important than the congress.
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:29 PM
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Two words: Supreme Court
The influence of a Dem Congress could conceivably only last 2 years. The effect of a Georgie-packed SC would be decades.
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Fri Aug-20-04 09:32 PM
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I would have said Congress, except for this little detail! (I would love to do some industrial strength impeaching, that's for sure)
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:31 PM
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If a Repuke Congress is blocking Kerry's initiatives that gives us another chance to win Congress back in two years. Many things can be done by executive order and Agencies will be headed by Dems to set the tone. I want a Dem Congress too but some of them have to learn that we all have to stick together, to often they melt at any opposition.
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:33 PM
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10. Congress has the power to investigate and Impeach |
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It would be the best if our Representatives weren't such simpering fools that are scared of their own shadows.
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:37 PM
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11. essentially, its this possibility of exacting justice upon the Boy King |
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is almost worth all else.
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:37 PM
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Someone must blunt the dirve to Sovietize the many executive agencies.
As it is now the EPA's main task is to lie to us and shut us up while we are posined through air and water.
The FDA's main task is to lie to us and shut us up while we are poisoned through food, pesticides, and to help drug us into submission.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Now, given the ruthlessness with which the Busheviks have purged the current system and removed all the honest people from positions of power, this is going to be a tremedously huge task.
PLUS the Judicial Arm of the Coup must have it's Judicial Ethics restored, and while I'm not sure Kerry can actually do that, a Bushevik Imperium would ensure the most corrupt kind of Third World Judiciary we could imagine...
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:39 PM
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13. Congress - as long as they have some balls. |
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Fri Aug-20-04 03:43 PM
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Just to make morons life a living hell for the next 4 years. And to launch real investigations instead of these whitewashes we have been seeing.
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Fri Aug-20-04 08:13 PM
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If we can get a large majority, that would just rock. Maybe even enough to pass some things over a veto (with some pubbies' help...)
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Fri Aug-20-04 08:00 PM
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Edited on Fri Aug-20-04 08:01 PM by Eric J in MN
I want John Kerry nominating the next Supreme Court Justices, even if a Republican Senate votes against his first-choice.
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Fri Aug-20-04 09:28 PM
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20. that issue is a trump card in this debate |
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its a lot harder blocking nominees.
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Fri Aug-20-04 09:58 PM
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Chimpy will be around when the economy implodes due to 12 years of misguided GOP policy.
Once this happens, Congress will have the mandate to impeach, and we can have our 1973 moment.
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Fri Aug-20-04 10:17 PM
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because the president appoints Supreme Court justices. We can't afford any more goons like Scalia and Thomas, which is exactly what we'll get if Bush* is re-selected.
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