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Mon Sep-06-04 05:41 PM
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Poll question: Favorite Democrat President |
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Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 05:43 PM by James T. Kirk
History time! Who is your favorite Democratic president? link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:42 PM
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:44 PM
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2. You forgot to put Thomas Jefferson in there. |
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Picky, I know, but he was one hell of a Democrat
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:49 PM
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4. I'm counting Jefferson as a "Democratic-Republican". |
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Mon Sep-06-04 08:55 PM
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36. only if you ignore his 2nd term |
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Even Jefferson was so mortified by his second term that he avoided any mention of being president on his epitaph.
It was the epitome of what bad second terms were all about. The Embrago Act pretty much cemented the pending war with Britain. It was enormously damaging to our economy and prestige.
He was much better as a writer and Secretary of State than he was as a president, although the first term gets marks for Louisiana and the subsequent Lewis & Clark expedition.
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:49 PM
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3. There are to many to choose from |
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:53 PM
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6. If you pick "other" you get five! |
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:50 PM
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5. 5 for Clinton and 0 for Kennedy?! |
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Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 05:51 PM by HypnoToad
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I'm ashamed.
I just voted for Kennedy.
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:56 PM
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7. I love love Kennedy but his problem was that he was in there too short |
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That said I like Jack Kennedy better than I do Billy Clinton.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:02 PM
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11. Quite a bit happened during that time, though. |
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Civil rights, the Cold War, Vietnam, the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:08 PM
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:39 PM
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21. Also, all that moon stuff. |
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:53 PM
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27. it was very bold of him to do that |
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I wonder what he would have accomplished had he lived.
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Mon Sep-06-04 05:59 PM
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Both Carted and Cleveland have zero at this point! Won't anyone vote for Carter?
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:01 PM
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10. I did- he is a great humanitarian |
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:22 PM
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i highly respect jimmy carter. he is a good man.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:00 PM
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9. Truman was the last great Democratic President |
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After him came the missle gap lies, the Viet Nam war, continuation of the anti-Castro bullshit, the Iran hostage (remember where the Shah went after he got kicked out?), the failure to pass universal health coverage, the failure to stand up to big business, and so on and so son and so forth.
It is a shame that the best thing we can say about our Party is that it is marginally better than the GOP. Mostly. Sort of.
I did get a kick out of the Big Dawg, though.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:20 PM
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14. Harsh assessment! You think Kerry will be as good as Truman? |
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:41 PM
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22. I voted for Truman too |
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Give em hell Harry!
My mom, aged 69, said she she wished that Kerry was acting more like Truman.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:06 PM
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12. I'll vote for Jimmy Carter! |
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I was very happy to see that he won the Nobel Peace Prize. He continues to be a great role model for America. Too bad not enough pay attention and learn from him... Bill Clinton is great, too-get well soon!
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:37 PM
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Pay attention to Carter? After all, he's sincere, he's a man of peace, he's a man who cares for the unfortunate, and a true, not a phony, Christian. If he wants attention, he should grovel to Big Oil, kow - tow Big Business, and brag about what a great Christian he is, while bashing gays and the less fortunate. And then he'll be "in like Flynn".
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:24 PM
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16. Oh, and live long and prosper Captain! |
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:27 PM
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17. Good to see you again, old friend! |
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Tue Sep-07-04 05:21 PM
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37. Yeah, too bad about 'ol Scotty - looks like he's a gonner... |
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:31 PM
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Kennedy was not in there for a long enough time to match either, though I think he would have really turned this country around. Personal life aside, Clinton did a lot I admire. Despite the whole "bombing" situations we got ourselves into, he handled the domestic problems better than most did. Carter did a lot of humanitarian stuff I admire too. It's kind of a toss-up.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:38 PM
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20. So far, no one has picked a 19th century Democratic president. |
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:42 PM
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23. Democrats in the 19th century were a lot like today's Republicans |
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:53 PM
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26. You left out Cleveland's second term |
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His fans would probably like to, as well :)
But out of the 19th century Democrats, he was the best. From what I know of Andrew Jackson, he was pretty horrible. Effective, but horrible. Most of the others were horrible and maudlin.
I voted for FDR. I actually don't like many Democratic Presidents.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:55 PM
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:47 PM
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because the buck stops at his desk.
ending WW2 and pushing for civil rights and universal health care. He had the balls to go against the very racist Democrats in his party.
I didn't pick FDR because of his blatant racism. But I respect him without liking him.
Why didn't you put Jefferson Davis, the democratic confederate president? I'm sure some people respect him while disagreeing with his policies of slavery and secession.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:53 PM
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25. I didn't put Davis becasue he was C.S.A., not U.S.A. |
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Also, I can only fit ten options in a poll. That's why so many are in the "other" category.
An interesting point, though.
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Wed Sep-08-04 12:03 AM
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39. Davis had a very interesting life |
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After careful, but very, very brief reflection, I chose Roosevelt.
I think Davis did a more than competent job as Confederate President though. Give him the economic and military power that Lincoln had and give Lincoln what Davis had and I have no doubt he would have won quicker than Lincoln did.
He was really in a pretty impossible position, trying to make a government during a major war, and trying to rally support from states when the whole idea of the country was that the states should have supreme authority.
Hard working, uncorruptable, and chosen as president, a job he didn't want, he kept his country together and fighting even after it was split into pieces.
Read his biography. He had quite a life.
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:55 PM
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29. Truman- He wasn't afraid to stand up for what he believed in, despite the |
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fact that many people disagreed with his policies on Korea, the failed FAIR DEAL and the first pushes for civil rights laws (unless you count FDR's Anti-Lynching law)
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Mon Sep-06-04 06:59 PM
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30. LBJ, if not for Vietnam, would have been great |
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He passed many of the programs Kennedy envisioned, as well as two landmark civil rights acts (in 1964 and 1965). If LBJ had stayed the hell away from SE Asia, he very well have been remembered as even greater than FDR.
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Mon Sep-06-04 08:49 PM
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35. I agree wholeheartedly about LBJ. |
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Without Vietnam, he could have been another FDR.
But, Vietnam happened, and escalated.
So it's FDR all the way for me.
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Mon Sep-06-04 07:15 PM
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31. Who voted for Wilson? |
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Mon Sep-06-04 08:43 PM
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33. I didn't but he got the Nobel Peace Prize |
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He lost his health fighting for America to back the League of Nations.
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Mon Sep-06-04 08:45 PM
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34. JFK though I think FDR and TJ were great too |
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I liked the way that JFK took responsiblity for the Bay of Pigs even though he had nothing to do with it. He was going to pull us out of Vietnam and to dismantle the CIA when he was killed.
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Wed Sep-08-04 12:11 AM
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40. while he wasn't busy re-segregating the military |
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Or hailing the portrayal of the Klan in "The Birth Of A Nation".
Or I may add, sending the Marines down to Central America on behalf of the United Fruit Company, setting a precedent for our Latin American policy which would persist through Bush I.
Wilson's rhetoric about democracy and his "Fourteen Points" were pure self-aggrandizing hypocritical hogshit.
He even fought womens' suffrage until he saw the writing on the wall, about the time of his stroke.
And don't even get me started on his deception about "He Kept Us Out Of War" as his 1916 campaign slogan.
Worst Democratic president of the 20th century, bar none.
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Tue Sep-07-04 05:24 PM
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38. I don't know of any Democrat presidents. |
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I can think of several DemocratIC presidents whom I admire, FDR being the top of the list.
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Wed Sep-08-04 08:19 AM
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Use of "Democrat" as an adjective drives me frickin' nuts!
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Wed Sep-08-04 12:15 AM
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41. Best: ;FDR, my favorite: JFK |
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Kennedy, Truman, Clinton and Wilson were the worst.
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