bluestateguy
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:21 PM
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What would you do if you were a young man and got drafted? |
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What if you were either a young man and got drafted under Bush II or you were the parent of a young man facing the draft in a Bush Administration?
I see no scenario where a Bush Administration would allow women to be drafted. The religious right would never go for that.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:22 PM
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:38 PM
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Edited on Sat Sep-11-04 06:39 PM by 7th_Sephiroth
so i could keep my foot and just shoot it, or, my right thumb is not apposeable and i cannot fire a weapon
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:23 PM
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2. I would say, "GO F*** Yourself" and I have advised my 18 year old son... |
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Edited on Sat Sep-11-04 06:24 PM by WillW
to do the same.
No one dies for freedom in these wars. They all die for profits. Bottom line. Fuck 'em.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:24 PM
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3. Send the draft card back with this note |
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"I have other priorities than military service".
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:26 PM
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4. Give the guy at the draft board a BJ |
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:34 PM
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8. nah, those closet queens might enjoy it |
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however, finding an understanding friend of the same sex and going in together and making out in line and telling the recruiter that you've just GOT to be together might do the trick.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:27 PM
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Like most Americans, IMO.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:00 PM
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You realize that Iraq is merely a resource war, don't you? Are you actually willing to sacrifice your life just so that madmen like Dick Cheney can consolidate their power through control of the world's last remaining Oil reserves?
Why be so ready to risk your life for a lost cause? The Iraqi war has nothing to do with U.S. national security, and everything to do with the hubris-in-insecurity of the elites.
If Dick Cheney wants to get his war on so badly, I say put him on the front lines with a defective gun and insufficient ammo, and let's see how well that cowardly, lying sack of shit of a so-called Vice President can hold his own against the Iraqi resistance.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:28 PM
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6. Conscientious objector |
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I'd have my arguments ready. I would probably be given the option of jail or service.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:32 PM
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7. I don't know what I would do |
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I really trully don't.
Either way, I'm fucked.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:41 PM
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10. I would not leave or injure myself |
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I would simply refuse and go to jail.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:44 PM
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11. The same thing I did during Viet Nam |
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Refuse to 'serve' and pay the price.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:54 PM
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21. What was your penalty |
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for refusing to serve during Vietnam? P.S. I think that is extremely courageous to stand up for something like that against such pressure. I really respect that.
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Sat Sep-11-04 06:46 PM
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12. I'm a Conscientious objector |
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male, female, young or not, I'd be objecting.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:09 PM
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Knowing what I know now, I'd serve. Not that I believe Bush* to actually realize the consequences of what he's doing to this country in the long run, but the sin is upon his head.
If I objected and refused, there would be a part of me that would wound me more and more in the daily question, "In your refusal to serve, did some other boy die in your stead?" Whether you believe that a valid point or not, I do-- and I couldn't live with that.
As Shakespeare wrote...
"Therefore should every soldier in the wars do as every sick man in his bed, wash every moth out of his conscience: and dying so, Death is to him advantage; or not dying, the time was blessedly lost, wherein such preparation was gained: and in him that escapes, it were not sin to think, that making God so free an offer, he let him outlive that day, to see his greatness, and to teach others how they should prepare"
It's a toughter question than I realized when I first began writing my response, but that's it in a nutshell... I'd serve and do my best and curse Bush* every day thereafter.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:09 PM
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I'd go to an eye doctor and make sure he was convinced I couldn't see straight, and that my eyes were totally shot. Are you a woman or a man, doc?
Then to the ear doc to convince him that I couldn't hear a thing. Practically deaf. What's that doc? I can't hear you.
Then to a shrink doc........
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:12 PM
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16. The truth is you got nothing to lose. |
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Edited on Sat Sep-11-04 07:12 PM by bemildred
Tell them to fuck off (politely of course). Jail is better than Iraq. So is a foreign country. It's not like they will treat you well if you come back.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:26 PM
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17. I turned 18 in April 1969 |
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I signed up in the US Navy before being drafted. Everybody in my family served this country and I still feel it was an honor to serve my country. I was very gun-ho at the time, but shortly after I was in I realized there was no reason for this war. If I had to do it over again, I would move to Canada.
My son is 25, recently married but, with no children. I worry about him. I hope his old football injuries from high school and college will make him ineligible.
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:36 PM
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29. 25 is pretty old for the draft, doesn't mean you shouldn't worry... |
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But not as much as if you had a 16-20 year old son.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:31 PM
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18. That is a very tough question |
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which I may be forced to answer soon. I believe that individuals must do their duty, and that someone's duty is NOT just what their government tells them. In most cases, it is the opposite. Courage is doing the right thing even if you will suffer. I know the wars which we are fighting are wrong, and I will never have any part of them. I will fight when it is truly my duty to do so. By the way, if given the chance, I would seriously consider going to Sudan and fighting on the side of the S.L.A. (Sudan Liberation Army) against the genocide.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:35 PM
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19. If I had a son I would send him out of the country where he |
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couldn't be extradited. There is no way I would sacrifice my child for an unjust war, no way! I believe it would be my patriotic duty and that of any parent to do so because this administration is not a legitimate American administration and needs us to fight them any way we possibly can without dire consequences.
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Sat Sep-11-04 07:38 PM
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My son doesn't need to serve in a fascist army. Sorry but that's what it is right now.
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Sat Sep-11-04 10:33 PM
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22. I got into this discussion with my little brother (he's 22) |
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He says he wouldn't want to go, but he wouldn't lie to get out of service.
My solution? Simple.
I'll break both of his legs.
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Sat Sep-11-04 10:39 PM
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One war was enough for me amigo!
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Sat Sep-11-04 10:49 PM
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24. I would go to bootcamp |
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Then when it finished I would start a Coup d' Etat.
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Sat Sep-11-04 10:51 PM
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25. No one is getting drafted... |
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:04 PM
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:34 PM
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28. I'm a young man and asking myself this question right now |
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I suppose it largely depends on if there will be college deferments this time. On one hand I don't think that I can bring myself to go kill innocent people in Iran and Syria. On the other hand I'd like to follow the lead of our nominee and have the guts to fight a war that the chickenhawks won't. I just hope that our nominee gets elected so that I don't have to worry about this.
I think what will ultimately keep me from going, is the horror stories I've heard about troops not having the proper equipment and having to take unecessary risks. We may have been wrong to go into Vietnam, but at least our troops weren't subject to all of the bullshit that our troops have to go through now.
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:38 PM
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30. volunteer for the air force |
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:39 PM
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I dont know, I might accept my fate, but I would try to be a medic, better to save life than the alternative.
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:40 PM
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32. That's a good idea, cept I'm kinda bad with blood |
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But I suppose I'd be worse at killing people.
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:42 PM
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but I would rather go than someone else go, and if I could be the saver of life rather than taking life, I'd be content. Hell, if I could honestly and the cause merited it, I'd enlist with Kerry as commander in chief. I dont know what it is but I am getting inspired by Kerry like Kerry was by Kennedy, dont ask me why :D, and no you guys wont be saying Kleeb is too bushlite in 30-40 years because I'll be writing comedy sketches or political commentary or sports.
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Sat Sep-11-04 11:42 PM
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33. FIrst I'd wonder how they managed to draft a Canadian... |
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Then I'd give them a note saying "You First"
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