Sandpiper
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:22 PM
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I don't get it, the repukes say that Universal Healthcare is too expensive |
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Yet they have no problem supporting a 2 trillion dollar give away to Wall Street to privatize Social Security.
Hmmm...
Methinks their real opposition to Universal Healthcare has little to do with expense, and much to do with the fact that the biggest beneficiaries would be ordinary people rather than big business.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:25 PM
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1. I want the $714 every man, woman and child has spent murdering |
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people in Iraq back. What a friggin' disaster this paranoid moron is. Code red coming soon - don the foil hats before the rays get you!
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Nite Owl
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:25 PM
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2. If only it could be presented |
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just like that we could get somewhere. Why don't the Dems just present it like that.
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stevebreeze
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:30 PM
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3. The REAL dirty little secret is that universal care is CHEAPER |
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It is just more expensive for the few free riders in the system. When employers don't pay for their employees health care and the employee become sick, they seek care at the local emergency room. This far more expensive cost is then passed on to those who have insurance.
Have you ever been in a doctors office were there was not a at least one person who sole job was to file, and follow up on insurance claims? Funny thing is the insurance co has a person on the other end trying to figure out how to pay the doctor less. The fastest growing portion of health care expense over the last couple years has been administrative. With universal care much of this hiring is unnecessary.
We pay twice as much per person as most other industrialized countries, yet the US is 39th in quality of care.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:31 PM
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4. Repugs do not want universal healthcare because no money in |
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it for corporations. I think that the war in Iraq is much more expensive than healthcare, but that does not make money for Haliburton and other friends.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:33 PM
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5. It saves them from having to admit that they don't give a shit... |
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...about anyone else. Besides, their golf buddies are doctors and insurance moguls, and they wouldn't want to cut into their profits.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:35 PM
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Cleita
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:36 PM
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7. We now pay $5,000 a year per capita for health care |
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and 44 million are uninsured. Many more are underinsured. Most countries including Canada can cover all their citizens for approximately $2,500 per capita. So it seems that if we had universal health care we would save a lot of money. All these countries have quality health care too, not what the insurance propagandists would want you to believe, but it's true.
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Jackpine Radical
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:41 PM
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8. Put another way, we spend about 15.5% of GDP |
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on health care. Canada spends less than 8%, and most Euro countries are in the 8-10% range. What we're paying for are: 1) Corporate profits, 2)inefficient administration (approx 25% going to support the adminstrative apparatus of the private system) and 3) Paying for things like drug co. advertising.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:44 PM
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10. Thanks for adding that. |
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:52 PM
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13. ...and (I forgot to mention) |
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hiring lawyers to fight us on our claims.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:43 PM
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9. Conservatives don't like the idea of sharing. |
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They see other people in society as competitors for limited resources. They believe they'll do better by giving nothing to others and trying to keep everything they earn for themselves.
They learned this at a very young age when their mother failed to teach them to share their toys in the sandbox. It's a fundamental mindset. Nothing you say will change their mind. Don't bother.
The only way they will see things differently is if the economy collapses - or if they personally come upon hard times financially. Then they will suddenly understand that it's better to share and work together for the common good.
They'll probably achieve that advanced level of enlightenment if Bush* gets elected.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:46 PM
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11. nazis say "... Universal Healthcare is too expensive." |
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As usual, republinazis are stupid. What's too expensive is letting this healthcare debacle continue on. The U.S. is a potential breeding ground for the next pandemic. Since healthcare is very expensive for the average person, people wait until a medical condition becomes much more expensive to treat, & go to the dr. of last resort — the ER. There's no reason why we have to keep throwing our tax dollars away on the military-industrial complex, instead of wisely using our tax money for universal healthcare.
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Mon Sep-13-04 09:46 PM
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12. Funny how the Canadians and Europeans are smart enought to figure out |
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how to make it work. I guess Americans are just too stupid.
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