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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:00 AM
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MSNBC: Should the Ten Commandments Monument have been moved?
Today’s Question: (@10:11 a.m. CST)

http://www.msnbc.com/news/778726.asp
I voted and wrote a comment.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:02 AM
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1. 52% to 48%
In favor of moving. Too close for sanity.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:06 AM
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5. Yes, but earlier the noes were ahead. Guess the smart folks were
not awake yet.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:02 AM
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2. Yes = 52% no = 48%
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GAspnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:04 AM
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3. when I voted, it was 48 yes, 52 no
I also wrote them a comment...and I didn't even use any bad words. Yea me!
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:05 AM
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4. yes - 54% no - 46%
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:06 AM
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6. 55 to 45 Yes
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dixiechiken Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:07 AM
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7. 536 Responses ...
55% Yes / 45% No
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:17 AM
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8. 12:16est 672 responses yes 56% - no 44%
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:45 AM
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11. Wonder what the usual numbers are at this time.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:19 AM
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9. It's still in the public building, is it not?
It is still unlawful...even if they put it in the basement.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:46 AM
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12. It is still in the building
but in a private room, not accessable by the public, which was a temporary plan approved by the courts until its fate could be decided. I suppose if Moore wanted it moved to his office and it may be legal to have a private monument in a private office - no different than hanging the decalog on your office wall. Hopefully, he won't have an office for long (crossing fingers).

Just voted

56% yes with 904 votes.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:44 AM
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10. Notice this earlier poll though
Should the Ten Commandments monument be removed from government property?
* 187889 responses
Yes 36%
No 62%
Can't decide 2%

http://www.msnbc.com/news/954934.asp
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 12:32 PM
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15. Now that is scary.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:50 AM
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13. My comment:
I believe this stone monumnet is a testament to a prohibition within the ten commandments, towhit the second commandment: "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image".

To me, Judge Roy Moore and his followers are idolators.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 12:25 PM
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14. Did not write it as well but referred to the idolatry of this monument as
being against all that is written in the New and Old Testaments.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 01:06 PM
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16. 51% to 49% noes now
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 01:11 PM
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17. 51% yes as of 2:08PM EST
My comment: "Now it's time to remove the judge!"


rocknation

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AntiBushRepub Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 01:22 PM
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19. Thoughts
Quote
>>I believe this stone monumnet is a testament to a prohibition >>within the ten commandments, towhit the second commandment: "Thou >>shalt not make unto thee any graven image".

If I may turn your attention to the words "unto thee" which to me means to, of, about yourselves.. meaning a worldy image...

I think it's along the same lines as the bit about worhsipping fals idols..

Like if there was a golden calf or something...

Having said that, the court order came down... I think they should've taken the monument down because of that.

Seperation of church and state, and the argument to take the monument down is a valid opinion, I cenrtainly have no problems with anyone who believes that.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the momument being there for a couple reasons.

I don't live in Alabama, therefore it's less my concern than it is someone in Alabama.

I don't think that any judge in that courthouse is going to change his ruling because of what's in the hall... I don't really see it as a contradictions between sep. of church and state. When you start legislating by religion, that's where I have a problem.

I just see it as a stone monument, I don't see whay the response is quite so rabid to get rid of the monument.. I guess my view is that It's just sitting there, it's not hurting anyone.. it's a piece of concrete.

-An
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 02:19 PM
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21. Well you can say that about a lot of statues and other monuments, but
that does not mean they don't convey powerful messaages to humans about many diferent things. That is why they have been a form of communication for many, many years.
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 01:17 PM
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18. 50/50 at 2:15
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 02:03 PM
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20. 50/50 at 3:00pm
How can half of the voters say it's OK to ignore the court's decision about this religious symbol? Who are these voters?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 02:30 PM
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22. Why do you think people are so nuts about sybolism because that is
all it is. The same thing with the flag.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:12 PM
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23. 49% yes and 51% no
Wow! Reason loses again.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:16 PM
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24. Interesting. Wolfie has same question, different results
www.cnn.com/wolf
about 75% saying it should've been removed.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 11:01 PM
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25. It's 50-50
at midnight EST
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