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Cartooner Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:40 PM
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PASS THIS ON TO WOMEN YOU KNOW WHO AREN'T VOTING.
The women were innocent and defenseless. And by the end of the night,
they were barely alive. Forty prison guards wielding clubs and their
warden's blessing went on a rampage against the 33 women wrongly
convicted of "obstructing sidewalk traffic."

They beat Lucy Burn, chained her hands to the cell bars above her head
and left her hanging for the night, bleeding and gasping for air. They
hurled Dora Lewis into a dark cell, smashed her head against an iron bed and knocked her out cold. Her cellmate, Alice Cosu, thought Lewis was dead and suffered a heart attack. Additional affidavits describe the guards grabbing, dragging, beating, choking, slamming, pinching, twisting and kicking the women. And other tortures.

Thus unfolded the "Night of Terror" on Nov. 15, 1917, when the warden at the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia ordered his guards to teach a lesson to the suffragists imprisoned there because they dared to picket Woodrow Wilson's White House for the right to vote.

HBO's has a new movie "Iron Jawed Angels." It is a graphic depiction of the battle these
women waged so that women could pull the curtain at the polling booth and have their say. HBO will run the movie periodically before releasing it on video and DVD.

So, refresh my memory. Some women won't vote this year because-- why, exactly? Carpool duties? Have to get to work? Their vote doesn't matter? It's raining?

Please pass this on to all the women you know. We need to get every woman out to vote and use this right that was fought so hard for by these very courageous women.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:43 PM
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1. I do
I remind them that women haven't had the right to vote for a century yet-and that everyone could lose that right if Shrub is reelected, because I feel he is bent on making this into a facist dictatorship.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:44 PM
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2. Women under 34 to be DRAFTED in 2005 in BUSH DRAFT for SKILLS!



PRINT THE PDF: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/draftalert.pdf
HANG THIS FLYER EVERYWHERE

This is a SPECIAL MILITARY DRAFT ALERT. THIS IS NOT THE RANGEL DRAFT BILL, THIS IS NEW! THIS IS BUSH QUIETLY READYING THE COMBAT DRAFT AND HAVING THE SELECTIVE SERVICE CREATE A NEW DRAFT FOR 2005.

In May, the Seattle Post Intelligencer published an article about a document they received through the Freedom of Information Act. It was revealed that the SSS is currently “designing procedures” for the implementation of a “Skills Draft” after holding a top-level meeting on it with Deputy Undersecretaries at the Defense Department. The top-level This draft would change the very mission of the Selective Service and require “virtually every young American”, male and female ages 18-34, to register for the Skills Draft and list all the occupations they are proficient in to fill labor shortages throughout nearly the entire government.

Here, for the first time, is the FOI document itself:

http://blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

This document is real, having been acknowledged by the DoD and the SSS when they said no action is being taken on it at the present time, as reported:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.html

Although Congress would have to approve new legislation to create a Skills Draft or reinstate the combat draft, Family Circle reported in its July 13 issue that Karl Rove has polled GOP members of Congress in September 2002 to see if they would support the President if he requests reinstatement. The Republicans said they would vote for the draft.

In addition, the SSS itself has said that it is “designing procedures” (Seattle PI, May 1, 2004) to implement the skills draft, meaning designing the compliance cards and the data fields needed to keep track of “virtually every young American” and their skills. Acting Director of the SSS Brodsky has also said the Skills Draft is the “top priority” of the Selective Service for 2004. The Issue Paper options include:

- Allow a non-combat draft for shortages in critical skills, without calling a combat draft.

- Fill labor shortages of all kinds throughout not only DoD but the Dept. of Homeland Security and other agencies, especially high-paying professionals like computer networking specialist or linguist.

- Create a single-point, all-inclusive database, in which every young person would be forced to send in a “self-declaration” of all of their critical skills, chosen from a long list of occupations like the Armed Forces Specialty Code. The usual penalties of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine would apply to all non-registrants.

In the secret planning meeting document, the next steps strongly recommended by SSS Acting Director Brodsky were:

1. “Promptly” redefine the SSS Mission to draft men and women up to age 34 for skills, and deliver them within 90 days or sooner to the Department of Defense. Program a massive database to be ready to enter millions of names of those registering their critical skills.

2. Expand mission to deliver personnel in skills draft to the Department of Homeland Security and other agencies, including FEMA, NSC, Border Patrol, INS, Customs, Corporation for National Service, Public Health Service and other agencies.

3. Form interagency task force to provide Administration with recommendation on this skills draft for the entire government.

4. Obtain White House Statement of Administration Policy on the future of the SSS.

5. Be prepared to market the skills draft, raising the non-combat age to 34 and the drafting of women to the Armed Services and Appropriations Committee.

In contrast to this planning and preparation to create a targeted draft, Kerry plans to spend an additional $7 billion to strengthen the Volunteer Army in what is essentially a “No-Draft Plan”. Moreover, Kerry is strongly opposed to the neo-con plan revealed in Wes Clark’s book Winning Modern Wars, in which Clark was told by a senior Pentagon official that invasions of Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Sudan and Somalia were planned and still to come over the next three years.

DON'T FORGET TO USE THE .PDF NOT THE .GIF FILE.

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05

KERRY '04 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 04:03 PM
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6. is it your plan to post the exact same thing
on every thread today? at least change it up a little, it's getting tiresome.

plus, there will be no draft. get that through your head. A draft would fail. no one wants it. the military doesn't want it, the people don't want it, the politicians don't want it. It is quite simply not going to happen unless to repel a direct invasion of the United States mainland. And by that I mean ten million canadians invading Minnesota (And even then we might make a deal)

The Selective Service always has draft plans in storage, they always are making new ones, it's what they do. Did you know the military has plans for the invasion of Ireland? And Greenland? and Bermuda? And Switzerland? that's what they do, they make plans for every possible scenario they can think of. Do you think we're really planning on invading Bermuda? but they make plans, just in case. Go have a financial checkup sometime, they'll help you make plans for every possible eventuality. that's what they do, make plans.

This constant hysterical wailing about the pending draft is getting tiresome and distracting people from the real issues of the campaign. stop, take a deep breath, and remember it would take an act of congress to change the draft status of women, and any congressman who voted for it, I don't care where they are from, would lose the next election. It's a suicide pill. You might as well retire if you vote for this, because no one will vote for you. Congressmen and women might as well vote against mothers, apple pie and baseball.

Unless you have something reasonable to posit on this subject, besides a pie in the sky 'planning session' and some mumbling about Republicans voting for a draft. You really think these people who hate having women in the military will vote to DRAFT them? think about it. stop panicking people. please.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 04:46 PM
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8. If it helps get bush out of office...

who cares if it's true or not?

Playing devil's advocate here,

d

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 07:34 PM
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11. I was thinking the same thing
I believe it to be true. Even if it isn't, if it gets one person to vote that otherwise wouldn't have I agree who cares .
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:58 PM
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15. well, I for one
don't want to play the game that way. I care if things are true, we cannot kill the system in order to save it. Why not start a rumour that W loves to have sex with horses? the reson he's afraid of them is that he knows he gets so turned on that people will notice.

Truth does matter. I will debunk absurd conspiracies on our side as well as the other side, to the best of my ability. Tell me, would you allow your mom to be gangraped, if it helped get bush out of office?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 06:47 PM
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10. How about this?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:47 PM
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3. Where is that from? nt
nt
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:48 PM
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4. Excellent post
I remind women and minorities (mostly African-Americans in my particular part of the world) that others paid in blood so that we can simply walk into the courthouse and vote. But while I think most Black Americans have at least some understanding of the struggles of their people for this invaluable right, most women have absolutely no idea of the struggles of the early feminists. It's high time they learned- before we all lose that right.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:51 PM
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5. I work with an idiot who says she doesn't vote and refuses to talk
about politics. So I just told here "then you deserve what you get if bush* gets back into office".

She's not too friendly anymore, but I don't care. A person so friggin' brain dead obtuse isn't worth the time of day.
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Cartooner Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 04:05 PM
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7. Ask her ...
"What would you think if you didn't have the right to vote and someone came and told you, 'You don't have a job anymore, and women in the U.S. won't be permitted to compete with men for jobs.' People take the right to vote so much for granted, they assume it'll always be there. The way things are going now, it JUST MIGHT NOT BE."

But I know. There is all too much stupidity and sometimes there's just no remedy for it.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 04:51 PM
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9. Absolutely right
I get irritated at ANYONE who won't vote but especially women because I know how large a fight it was to get the vote in the first place. Just as the Revolutionary Armies fought and bled to earn the right to govern ourselves, women fought and bled to earn the right to vote. It is disrespectful of their determination to let apathy take over.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 07:43 PM
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12. A familiar pattern
First the bloody martyrs, then the triumph- then the apathetic generation who takes their gains for granted.

Then the darkness comes to take it all away again and no one sacriifices even the modest effort required to stop it from happening all over again. Labor. Civil Rights(although they have not succeeded enough to be spoiled). American Democracy. The middle class.

Your enemies have not gone away. Look upward, sheep.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 07:46 PM
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13. I read somewhere that in 2000
22 million single women did not vote.

That is scary.
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theKnave Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 07:47 PM
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14. END WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE!!!
Great post.

It reminds me of a skit that I heard was on "The Man's Show" (I haven't seen it, so this is 2nd hand)...

A film crew and a guy were walking the streets of a big city with signs saying "End Women's Suffrage" and having people sign petitions. The had a lot of people sign, including WOMEN!!!!

*shakes head*

history is forgotten in our disposable consumer society. Even the consumers are disposable.
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