My Freeper response to winter soldiers recant.

[zeemike]

I have a freeper friend who practically invented the art of freeping almost 10 years ago in a forum called Babel On at a place that went under called The Globe.
After it closed most of the Babblers moved to Delphi and I have kept contact with some of them. Recently, my friend started to reengage me in talk, (and I consider this a positive thing because he is worried about bush lousing)
The following is his comment and my response to it..


527.66 in reply to 527.65
Ignore and deny all you wish, mikey, hey, maybe Dan Rather has some "documents" - hooha! Sorry, dude, but you've been duped . . . for years and years:….
And then a cut and paste storie.

Forged evidence seems to be the theme on all of this.

Swift Lyres Boat Club;…”Kerry wrote his own report and made himself look good” (Kerry forged a document.)

CBS documents;…Forged of course, and assumed by most of the “liberal press” to be forged without any evidence to show that they were.

Winter soldier recants;…One out of a hundred that were there recants and so it is proof that it was all a lie, and that the recanter is easily led into false stories for whatever reason.

It seems like a really, really, really wacky world until you come to the knowledge that words can be used as a tool to destroy and control people through fear and loathing.

[tom_paine]

1. The same as the Nazis use of Juden Propaganda

Any time some truth cvame out about them, it was "Juden Propaganda"

For the Nazi (freeper) faithful, that was all that was required.

For many other Good Germans (Imperial Subjects of Amerika) likely, also, swept in by the tide of Goebbels v1.0 (v2.0 for Imperial Amerika), too.

[yardwork]

2. The Republican preoccupation with forgery

leads me to suspect that the White House has forged documents.

Whenever Rove points fingers at others, it means that Rove himself did what he is accusing others of having done.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. It keeps the public away from their preoccupation with

shredding evidence.

[zeemike]

8. That is a propaganda rule

You always accuse the other side of doing what you are doing.

[Qanisqineq]

4. this doesn't have anything to do with the discussion here, but...

I met my husband at "The Globe". Yep, we met online. hehehehehehe :)

[zeemike]

6. Good for you

Those were the good old days of the Internet, even though it is only 10 years.

[TahitiNut]

9. "the good old days of the Internet"??

<gigglesnort>

The "good ol' days" were long before the mass invasion of AOLers in about 1994. People confuse the "Web" with the "Internet." In the "good ol' days" we could run our own servers, as the design principles (peer-to-peer network) of the Internet promoted. We could run mail servers, news servers, FTP servers, and even web (or gopher) servers. Enforcement was primarily through responsible IAP's and the processes of excommunication.

Online discussions in newsgroups was (and still is) very energetic and egalitarian. Moderated newsgroups were not uncommon and porn was noncommercial and zoned in "red light district" newsgroups.

[11 Bravo]

5. Cool! You've got your very own freeper!

Where can I get one? Are they difficult to housebreak? Could I train one to scrub my toilets?

[zeemike]

7. They don't do any of that

But they are like barbells for the mind...it makes your mind work and git stronger.

[NYCGirl]

10. Here's Media Matters on Fox's recent "discredit" of Winter Soldiers

Full link:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409160001

Excerpt:
In fact, while Sheehan's review of Lane's book identified interviewees Greg Onan and Michael Schneider (aka Dieter von Kronenberger) as unreliable and also severely undermined the accounts of Terry Whitmore and Garry Gianninoto, none of these men testified during the investigation, according to Winter Soldier transcripts.

As Media Matters for America previously explained, there is no credible evidence of a Winter Soldier Investigation witness being discredited (though one such witness, Steven J. Pitkin, has since claimed that he lied in his own testimony).

Further, Lane's book does include interviews with Winter Soldier Investigation participants; in the same review Garrett cited, Sheehan wrote of Lane's book: "Some of the horror tales in this book are undoubtedly true." He added: "Anyone who spends much time in Vietnam sees acts that may constitute war crimes. One of the basic military tactics of the war, the air and artillery bombardments that have taken an untold number of civilian lives, is open to examination under the criteria established by the Nuremberg tribunal.