Conservative Repub writes about Sibel, 9-11, Caspian Pipeline: Must read!

[democraticinsurgent]

"A funny thing happened on the way to 'The Truth' (from Online Journal)
by Karl W. B. Schwartz

September 24, 2004—I am a conservative Republican who has come to the conclusion over the past 12 months that I would not vote for Bush Cheney 2004 under bribe, duress or at gunpoint. I have come to that conclusion for many reasons that are well documented and in some instances is information that is known only to myself and several executives that I work with.

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More importantly, what Sibel Edmonds found was not from counter-terrorism sources. It was from ongoing FBI investigations of Americans and foreign nationals involved in drug trafficking, money laundering and apparently pre-9-11 activities and financing of that attack. Now that explains why Emperor GW cannot dare let Sibel Edmonds testify under oath in that $1 trillion lawsuit, or before Congress or before the 9-11 Commission. We have not been told that Americans might have been in part involved in 9-11. Wouldn't that be a hoot compared to the endless lies we have heard from the Bush administration?

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Drug trafficking, money laundering, 9-11, attacking to take away that oil pipeline contract so Emperor George can claim "Mission Accomplished" on something, all of the big Caspian Basin oil deals that need that pipeline.

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Seems Sibel Edmonds might have stumbled across a key link that might unravel why the World Trade Center (WTC) is now a hole in the ground and US companies now control a pipeline they had not a chance of controlling, that is until 9-11 and October 7, 2001.

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There's much much more. Anyone following Sibel, Plame, etc. should read this. And coming from a self-avowed conservative Republican....very impressive....

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/092404Schwarz/092404schwarz.html

[burythehatchet]

1. great read.

when did you wake up?
welcome to DU
:hi:

[democraticinsurgent]

10. thanks for the welcome...

been here since Feb or so...just don't post a lot. I think the cable news trance broke around then. ;-)

[porkrind]

2. A funny thing happened on the way to 'The Truth'

What a great title. See, mentally flexible and intelligent republicans can tell when they are being lied to and see these crooks for what they are.

[donsu]

3. kick

nt

[Minstrel Boy]

4. Sibel's words are very important keys.

And they're of great significance, because they independently corroborate the research of Daniel Hopsicker, whose work in Florida also points to the protected drug trade, and the old Iran/Contra network.

More from the original post:

"During the FBI translations Sibel came across pre-9-11 drug trafficking and money laundering and that is evidently what they are trying to keep quiet. It does not take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that first, the Saudis do not need drug trafficking to generate cash flow to finance terrorism if they are in fact the culprits, and secondly, that tidbit of information does not fit what we have all been told about how al Qaeda financed the attack upon America. After I weighed it all, I thought the 9-11 attorneys might not be as interested in Sibel Edmonds' testimony as they first thought because drug trafficking and money laundering is not exactly a Saudi modus operandi.

"More importantly, what Sibel Edmonds found was not from counter-terrorism sources. It was from ongoing FBI investigations of Americans and foreign nationals involved in drug trafficking, money laundering and apparently pre-9-11 activities and financing of that attack. Now that explains why Emperor GW cannot dare let Sibel Edmonds testify under oath in that $1 trillion lawsuit, or before Congress or before the 9-11 Commission. We have not been told that Americans might have been in part involved in 9-11. Wouldn't that be a hoot compared to the endless lies we have heard from the Bush administration?

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"Hmmm, I said to myself. That Sibel story sounds familiar, like Iran-Contra, which was in part run through my home state of Arkansas. Who in this menagerie of current "bad actors" has that type of MO and history, including involvement in Iran-Contra? The first name that comes to mind is Richard Armitage of the State Department and reportedly our go between with the Pakistani ISI. Hmmm, it was the former director of ISI that wired Mohammed Atta that $100,000 for 9-11 and then was conveniently in Washington, DC, when 9-11 happened, meeting with Senators Graham and Kyl and Congressman Porter Goss, Bush's pick to keep the lid on at CIA.

"Hmm, Richard Armitage, drug trafficking, money laundering, Iran-Contra, Pakistan ISI, what is the connection?"

[KurtNYC]

5. Interesting info but why would Ben-Veniste

Ask Condi Rice for the embarrassing title of the August PDB memo during her testimony if he is part of the cover-up?

The 'emperor, prince and barron' naming is distracting.

Not sure what to make of his tangent about a phony search for Adnan whatshisname. If the FBI is just going through the motions, why not do a search for someone you already have (secretly) in custody or just make up a person from scratch? It would avoid having to threaten the people who call in with info which just creates more potential whistleblowers.

[Minstrel Boy]

7. And did that get us any closer to the truth of 9/11?

It won applause, it made the commission look tough by putting Condi on the spot, but that's all it did. The PDB is a McGuffin, leading to the limited hangout of incompetance.

Do you know Ben-Veniste was the attorney for Iran/Contra drug runner Barry Seal, who was gunned down with VP Bush's private number in his trunk? Seal and drugs are topics that make Ben-Veniste very nervous. See how Sander Hicks makes him squirm. For instance:

SH: Let’s go back for a second and talk about what you just said about the INS forms of the terrorist hijackers. How there just seems to be a disconnect. How could these people — it was pointed out that a couple of these people were on the CIA’s list of terrorists, they had attended the terrorism conference and yet they were allowed to be in country. There was a gentleman you may know of, named Daniel Hopsicker? He’s a former producer of NBC and he wrote a book called, "Barry and the Boys." You are mentioned in it. It’s about a former client of yours who is now deceased, Mr. Barry Seal. Are you familiar with this book?

RB: No, I haven’t read the book but I did represent Barry Seal, who was convicted. He thereafter, on his own, became a government informant. He worked against the Sandinistas and that certainly is not the subject of this....

SH: That’s not the subject of ....

RB: We have quite a bit to do here in our Commission without going into all my private practice. I certainly wouldn’t want this to be an infomercial for Richard Ben-Veniste as a private attorney.

SH: Not at all. But the question was, Daniel Hopsicker is

RB: So, if you wouldn’t mind staying on our subject...

SH: Not at all.

RB: I’d appreciate it.


http://www.sanderhicks.com/benveniste.html

[HFishbine]

6. This part is appalling, if true:

"Lastly, eight of the 10 9-11 Commission members (that I know of) are directly benefiting from 9-11 or companies they represent or sit on the board of directors of that pipeline, that big Caspian Oil deal being "open for business" soon, thanks to the US controlled pipeline, so I think we can all rest assured that The Truth Commission on 9-11 has yet to convene. The ones with serious conflicts are Kean, Fielding, Lehman, Thompson, Hamilton, Gorelick, Ben Veniste, and Roemer and just for kicks, a former Lee Hamilton staffer, Christopher Kojm, was in the back office with Zelikow."

[mmonk]

8. .

:kick:

[starroute]

9. Good stuff here -- I'd like to know more about this Bridas business

This ties in closely with the "Sibyl Edmonds translated Farsi" thread. Yup, drug trafficking, money laundering, and Caspian oil about sums it up.

(But there's still something fishy about the Bushes and the Saudis. Don't forget that even though BCCI was founded in Pakistan and was supporting Khan's nuclear program, Saudis were among its largest shareholders. And Saudi oil companies are involved in the Caspian as well.)