Former Gov Bush fancies himself a modern day Patrick Edward Connor

[SoCalDem]

The whole issue of "pre-emptive defense/war"...aka attack/invasion... has bothered me for sometime.. The thinking, as I understand him is to destroy today, what "might" be trouble tomorrow..

Using his logic, we should all have our teeth pulled today, so we don't develop cavaties tomorrow.. We should never marry, because someday a spouse will die or we may divorce.. We should never drive a car, because someday we might have an auto accident.. We shold never have children, because they may grow up to be horrible people, or they may not love us.. etc etc etc




We did this before... to the Native Americans..




Shoshone Sacred Grounds
By Payton Lee

https://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewshortstory.asp?AuthorID=9292

Sunday, August 18, 2002
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While we laud the Shoshone Sacagawea, there is a battle going on in a small location north and west of Franklin, Idaho. It is the northwestern Shoshone nation trying to obtain sacred land. It is the sacred land where 138 years ago a California militia Colonel named Patrick Edward Connor gave his infantry and cavalry of over two hundred orders to 'take no prisoners and remember nits grow into lice.'

This order began a four-hour slaughter at 6:00 a.m. in the morning as the sleepy peaceful people woke at their winter camp at Bear River on January 29, 1863. Nearly the entire camp of 400 warriors, old men, old women, women, children, and babies were obliterated. The undisciplined militia raped the women and young girls. When they were finished with the women, the militia split their heads open with axes or shot them. Any children and babies who were found alive or wounded were likewise clubbed to death, axed, or shot. The militia acted in the most barbarous ways and when the battle was over plundered the camp. The militia took the Shoshone ponies, food, warm skins, and buffalo robes. What this militia could not take with them were scattered and walked upon. The standing tepees were burnt to the ground.

The militias under Connor were not yet finished with their vicious slaughters. The militia had taken Chief Bear Hunter captive and after binding him, the chief was kicked, whipped, and shot. Chief Bear Hunter was a proud and brave chief who did not utter a word or issue a cry of mercy under his torment. This so infuriated the militia; one of them heated a bayonet and thrust it through Chief Bear Hunter's ears.

In the evening, the militia loaded their dead for burial and wounded for care. The slaughtered Shoshone men, women, and children were left on the field for crows and wolves to devour. At night a surviving chief, Sagwitch found his dead wife and two of his four children dead. One child was missing and an infant daughter who survived was placed in a cradleboard and hung on a tree with the hope someone would find her and take care of her. A two-year-old son did survive and lived to tell the story to the young Shoshone.

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Web Site: Bear River Spirit

[SoCalDem]

1. kick..

just because this history is usually NOT taught in school, and there are probably some young people here who have never heard the phrase uttered before..

[Englander]

2. The "Bush doctrine",pre-emptive war,

will not last long,it's first demonstration
has been a bloody mess,a failure.


On the Amerindian (is that the correct phrase?) issue;



Lewis and Clark re-enactors stir Indian debate

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2427476,00.html

>>Fort Pierre, S.D. - It was 200 years ago that the Corps of Discovery led by Meriwether Lewis and William Clark first met the Sioux, the native people of the High Plains.
"We want people to know the true American history," said Victorio Camp, 29, an organizer of the protest from Pine Ridge. "Not only the white history, but the history of all people in this country.

"Native people have been persecuted and oppressed. Our lands were taken away, the buffalo were slaughtered, and our whole way of life was destroyed. We feel that Lewis and Clark was the beginning of all of this."

Walking through the fairground parking lot, the first thing spectators saw Saturday was about 20 Lakota, most younger than 30, holding staffs adorned with eagle feathers and signs, one of which read: "L + C = DAWN OF GENOCIDE."<<



Twenty-odd years ago,when I was 10, I saw this photo' in a children's
book,and I have never forgotten it-