Best countries to move to if the creature steals again

[genius]

Canada seems good but, after watching The Day After Tomorrow, I'm not so sure.

Chavez is great but Bush will probably level that country for its oil soon.

Anyone have any information on which countries won't send us back and where the living is best?

[featherman]

1. Tropical Canada...no, wait...hmmmm

[markus]

2. Don't quit now

If Bush gets re-elected its going to get very ugly. There are already massive failure to report among the individual ready reserve, and the draft is just around the corner.

If Bush gets re-elected, its going to be a strange and ugly hybrid of '68-'72 meets Venezuela, and we're going to need every man (and woman) jack of us here for it.

[NervousRex]

3. I wish the choice was....

which planet....Man, I have had it with the blood and murder.

[DU9598]

4. The Netherlands

As a gay man, I am keeping in contact with my family there. I am not a paranoid, tin foil mad hatter. But, I am thinking ahead just in case things get out of hand here. There is a bit of fear in my gut about what "could be" not too far off.

[clydefrand]

7. I'm going with you. I have a dear friend there.

And I adore that country!

[Catfight]

5. How about at the Capitol and we take our country back regardless?

[Nicholas_J]

6. I took the

Skilled Worker test for Canada and passed it by five points, but the younger you are (younger than 49, older than 25) the better off you are as you get the highest number of points for being in that age group (10 points) My girlfriend being a bit younger got a higher grade, 80, which is pretty good as the passing score is soething like 67. For the next year, Canada is taking in something like 440,000 people due to lack of skilled workers, so depending on what you are skilled at, you can give it a whirl.

[Maple]

8. Canada is the only real choice

Hollywood hokum notwithstanding

[Vickers]

9. I'm not going ANY fucking where

I belong here.

[dweller]

10. Spain

they stood up to the BS, imo.

i'm setting my sight.
dp

[Arkana]

21. I'll go to Italy

Berlusconi may be on *'s side, but to be realistic he could care less. Plus I'm Italian and I've been wanting to go back there ever since I went in my sophomore year in HS.

[Stew225]

11. Hey, how about

Iraq? Our leaders are portraying it as some kind of Utopia, after all.

[tmooses]

12. If Bush wins

Fighting for your country will take on an entirely different meaning. There will be no more fencesitters-all those 60's concepts that are so easily ridiculed nowadays will somehow be much more relevant-struggle,
solidarity and revolution.

[Kanary]

32. "Solidarity"......... what a laugh!

We can't even find civility here.

Haven't seen any pigs flying.....

Kanary

[Big Kahuna]

13. There is no escape.

Sorry to say, unless you have close family, or skills in high demand, you are not welcome in any other english-speaking country.

[dumpster_baby]

19. not true!

Both canada AND australia will take you in if you are college educated and not too old.

[crispini]

14. I'm staying here and FIGHTING.

It's my fecking country!

Besides, don't we owe it to the rest of the world?

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

[maveric]

15. Ireland or New Zealand.

Friendly nations, no so RW.

[dumpster_baby]

18. NZ is more neoliberal/laissez faire than OZ, more like USA

I would recommend OZ over NZ. That is just what I have read, tho...

[burythehatchet]

24. and idyllic , as well..

[peacemeal]

31. I'm going to NZ

And becoming a sheep farmer.

Or an extra in Peter Jackson's next movie. :-)

[dumpster_baby]

16. I would recommend Australia

As long as you are under 45 yo and have a college degree, you are in.

Here is an interestin thread on kuro5hin.org about feeding the homeless people in Melbourne.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/9/26/72646/8578
Turns out the homeless there are much the same as they are here--mentally ill and beat down. But as you can see from some of the other posts in this thread, the govt there does give people (single ablebodied people, too) a nice payment if they are unemployed/broke. And that also get universal healthcare that is basically funded by taxation.

I posted on that thread, as well, and I detailed the basics of the social safety net here in the USA. Posters from some of the other western nations were somewhat shocked by the stinginess of our social welfare system.

Also, some other people from Australia posted there saying that it was much harder to be placed in prison in Australia, and that unless you did something really bad, you basically had to be a repeat offender mutiple times to go to jail.

My friend Peter is moving there soon. He is from Venezuela but moved to America several years ago, and he was quite surprised by the contrast between America and Australia. Apparently, they do not work as hard and diligently there in Australia as they do here in America. I guess if you have a good social safety net under you, you are not as stressed out about your future....

[Wickerman]

17. Estonia

low cost of living, rising technical center, nice beaches - Stockholm is a nice row away -that is where I am heading when the shit hits the fan.

[dumpster_baby]

20. but what are the immigration rules? n/t

[Wickerman]

22. It varies depending on your citizenry

http://www.relocationenterprises.com/estonia/immigration_estonia.htm

[Cha]

23. Either way, I'm moving to Hawaii in

2006 and live on the land..it will be a peaceful respite from being landlocked these last 8 years.

Hawaii is USA..but you feel you're out in the middle of Nowhere and it also has the Feel of a foreign Country with so many different Nationalities.

At least that's my take on it. What do some other's think who are living there now? B-)

[hobbit709]

25. Moving

Since I was born there and my mother is Austrian, I can still claim citizenship.

[Lisa]

26. what that movie didn't show you about Canada ...

If we did get hit by one of those superstorms, the Winnipeggers would be outside shovelling show in T-shirts.

[camero]

27. I'm in Canada now

But since my last skilled occupation on the list was 10 years ago and the waiting list for immigration being 6 months to a year, I don't have much chance of being able to stay.

Me and Bubbles have discussed getting married, but you have to show a year's relationship in order for the marriage to be seen as legit and with her illness and mine, we may not see the whole process through.

It's sad, I love it here. Cuba even looks pretty good.

[RebelYell]

28. Antigua, in the Caribbean - NO TAXES! n/t

[mmonk]

29. Is Montana

still planning to seceed if bush wins?

[mmonk]

30. British Virgin Islands, Bimini Islands,

Belize, are possibilities.

[Bake]

33. I'll stay, but I'll send my children to Canada in a heartbeat.

IF they can't work there, I'll send 'em money every month to live on. I will not give that bastard Bush my son and daughter for cannon fodder!! No fucking way. No fucking way in hell.

Bake