ABC News Pre-emptive coverage of the debates LOL

[RebelYell]

Is ABC psychic now? This is written in past-tense.

CORAL GABLES, Fla. Sept. 30, 2004 — After a deluge of campaign speeches and hostile television ads, President Bush and challenger John Kerry got their chance to face each other directly Thursday night before an audience of tens of millions of voters in a high-stakes debate about terrorism, the Iraq war and the bloody aftermath.

The 90-minute encounter was particularly crucial for Kerry, trailing slightly in the polls and struggling for momentum less than five weeks before the election. The Democratic candidate faced the challenge of presenting himself as a credible commander in chief after a torrent of Republican criticism that he was prone to changing his positions.

Bush was expected to confront questions about leading the nation into war on the still-unproven premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He also has faced accusations that he lacked a strategy to deal with the violence and chaos that have left more than 1,000 Americans dead and that the Iraq war has diverted U.S. attention from al-Qaida and other terrorists.

With a record of four years in office to defend, Bush had a debate strategy of being optimistic about Iraq but acknowledging that times were tough. His stance is that Americans know he is a decisive leader even if they don't always agree with his decisions and that Kerry has taken conflicting positions on Iraq and can't be trusted to lead the nation.

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http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040930_1184.html

[Richardo]

1. They got a copy of the script...

...they know who shot JR, too I'll bet.

[RebelYell]

2. Wrong forum, sorry, posting in Campaign n/t

[ghostsofgiants]

3. ...

Did you not watch The Daily Show last night?

[RebelYell]

4. No, I don't watch TV

What happened?

[wolframtarant]

5. ...

Ed Helms did a report as if the debate had already taken place saying the typical things like "Bush stayed on message" and said that all reporters just write their stories before things occur! :D

[CrowNotAngelGRL]

6. Now how did they know...

Heh heh. Are the debate's a live coverage or taped earlier in the day? XOXO.

[CrowNotAngelGRL]

7. Now how did they know...

Heh heh. Are the debate's a live coverage or taped earlier in the day? I'm new to voting and politics all together and didn't see the debate's last yr sadly. XOXO.

[SoCalDem]

8. I beat them to it...YESTERDAY !!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2426057

SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-29-04 04:35 AM
Original message


Wow!!! Wasn't that debate SOMETHING????


This reporter was "shocked and awed" beyond words... The tension in the room was so think you could have cut it with a knife.. The questions were riveting..

The two men were prepared, and determined to get their message out to the people. Although he looked relaxed and tanned..(tan in a can, or did he use Gore's make-up person??)...Mr. Kerry's answers to the questions seemed a bit out of focus. There were quizzical looks on the faces of most of the audience. The kind of rhetoric that is common to Mr Kerry is very foreign to the common man. The democrat senator from Massachussets was a skilled debater in school, and he was expected to do very well in the debate, yet he seemed flat.. Instead of stating the positive things he would do, he seemed intent on criticising the president...and in war-time..

PRESIDENT BUSH, on the other hand, was his usual affable self. He certainly knows what to say, and how to say it.. His fans know that they can always count on him to talk to them in easy-to-understand terms....The plain-spoken President Bush has the "heart and soul" of America, because he is one of them.. It had to be difficult for him too, since the Democrat senator's people have been attacking Mr. Bush unrelentingly.

The few times that the two debaters looked at each other, you could almost see the hurt in Mr Bush's eyes.. At times he looked upwards, as if to confer with his lord and savior for guidance. He obviously has very pressing issues on his mind, what with the war on terrorism, yet he took time out of his busy schedule to have the debate.

His energy knows no bounds, and he will undoubtedly continue to do the hard work as president, and still honor the debate schedule..

note to staff... do not file until Friday...


www.liberalcommiepinkopress.com

[RebelYell]

11. I'm crackin' up here LOL n/t

[LoZoccolo]

9. I have nominated this for the homepage, ma'am.

Good catch. :toast:

[RebelYell]

12. Thank you! n/t

[LoZoccolo]

10. Can someone with a Mac save this as a PDF?

We need to keep this. I don't have mine with me right now.

[RebelYell]

13. I saved the web page to my desktop, but it's not a PDF n/t

[951]

19. Yes please someone make a PDF of this and nominate!

[chelaque liberal]

14. They did this on the Daily Show last night!

Jon: Rob! YOu wrote your review the day before?
Rob: Of course. We all do it.

[LoZoccolo]

15. This is abso-fucking-lutely huge.

What you're seeing is basically that they'll write a story that meets everyone's expectations, fuck actually being there and reporting what happened.

[K-W]

16. It just looks like they got the tense wrong, it doesnt seem

to describe the actual event.

[crispini]

32. Agree, it's really more about "debate will be tonight"

esp if you read the AP story up at yahoo, which is the exact same story.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20040930/ap_on_el_pr/debate_rdp_12&printer=1

Bush, Kerry to Meet in Key Debate Tonight

34 minutes ago

By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent

CORAL GABLES, Fla. - After a deluge of campaign speeches and hostile television ads, President Bush (news - web sites) and challenger John Kerry (news - web sites) will get their chance to face each other directly Thursday night before an audience of tens of millions of voters in a high-stakes debate about terrorism, the Iraq (news - web sites) war and the bloody aftermath.


The 90-minute encounter will be particularly crucial for Kerry, trailing slightly in the polls and struggling for momentum less than five weeks before the election. The Democratic candidate faced the challenge of presenting himself as a credible commander in chief after a torrent of Republican criticism that he was prone to changing his positions.

[morgan2]

17. seems like a half written article

how on earth this got passed an editor is beyond me. Maybe the reporter submitted his form he wrote up for his post debate article instead of his predebate article?

[AngryOldDem]

21. It looks half-written....because it is

Many times when papers are going to be pushing deadline with an important event, as some will with the debate tonight, they will write an outline such as this early. I imagine the same holds true to networks with Web sites. It saves time by just going back and fleshing things out and filling in the blanks. It's an advance, but it should probably not be released to the public until it is a complete report.

[troubleinwinter]

18. "news"

What a joke. Oh well, it's official policy now to NOT report real news, anyway. Even AFTER it actually happens.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2432228

[RebelYell]

20. "Oh, how they DO get desperate"

J. Geils

[Vickers]

22. Whatever you do, do NOT edit your original post

When their story comes out, if it reesembles ANYTHING like what you have posted, they will be exposed as tools.

They have already removed it, BTW.

[IkeWarnedUs]

23. I have it on my screen now

I still have the window open showing the ABC story.

I have Adobe Acrobat (free version).

I have no idea what to do to capture the screen image.

Anybody?

[Vickers]

27. Take a digital picture of it!

:P

[crispini]

31. If you are on PC

Do CTRL + PRINT SCREEN. This should put a screencap on your clipboard.

Then paste into Paint. Save the file and upload it to a free image server and get the URL and post here.

[AmerDem]

33. to hell with uploading

email it to someone here that have their own web space! This poster doesn't want to jump thru so many hurdles to get this to us. The faster the better.


Thanks for all the hard work

[IkeWarnedUs]

36. Ok, I saved the screen shots as JPG's

Who can I e-mail them to? I am getting ready for a Kerry debate party. I'll check back soon, but I may have to do it later tonight.

[AmerDem]

37. Let's se how things go

Hang onto it for now. Depending how the media plays this thru will determine how we react.

Thanks for the work Ike!:toast:

[RebelYell]

26. I saved it as a complete web page, but it's not a PDF n/t

[LoZoccolo]

24. It's gone.

Oh well.

[951]

25. I saved it :D

[RebelYell]

28. PDF? n/t

[AmerDem]

29. you saved a screenshot?

or did you copy the article? either way, this has to get out to everyone!

[951]

35. You can get it here

( img8.exs.cx/img8/948/ap20040930_1184html.jpg ) >> right click save to HD and rename the .jpg to .zip sorry its the best I can do I don't feel like signing up for a free webpage

[AmerDem]

30. This news needs to be put out to everyone!

The sooner the better.

[crispini]

34. IMO this really isn't all that big of a deal.

1. Reporters do write MANY of their articles in advance of the actual events. i.e. obituaries of stars, etc., that sometime even get posted BEFORE the star's actual death. (this has happened).

2. If you read the article, even though it's in past tense, it really doesn't say anything about what HAPPENED in the debate. (i.e. There was a moment of clarity when Pres. Bush pointed out his position on X). If it did, THEN I'd be suspicious. But it doesn't.