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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:40 AM
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Alan Keyes : Gay parents cause incest and abuse of kids
Alan Keyes: Everyone should carry a machine gun; it will increase security on the streets.

Alan Keyes: Mary Cheney is a lesbian, therefore a selfish hedonist.


Dick Cheney's response? "Shame on John Kerry!"


Oh, I get the logic now. GOPspeak is not suppposed to be rational. Just like our president. Never mind.

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:49 AM
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1. so heterosexual parents everywhere will start to boink their brats?
I don't get it.

OH, gay parents will molest their children. What gives you that idea Alan? Is it the preponderance of empirical evidence since there are so many gay parents everywhere that molest their children?

In fact, name one. Just one. dickhead.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:13 AM
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6. Nah that wasn't it at all.
He said if a child doesn't know the identity of one of their parents, there's a chance they'll hook up with another child of that parent. It could be true, but he singled out gay parents despite the fact that it would be a problem with adopted children or sperm/egg donors as well.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:18 AM
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7. Here's a link to the story.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:56 AM
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10. (sound of maniacal laughter)
heaven preserve us from politicians and religious nutjobs who think they're scientists.
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mark0rama Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:17 PM
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14. Exactly, LoZoccolo! Keyes should speak out against all adoption!
Oh, wait, that would conflict rather badly with Keyes' opposition to abortion rights, wouldn't it?

I guess some contradictions are polically expedient, and some aren't.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:37 PM
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18. Ha I hadn't thought of that.
Good catch. :thumbsup:
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:01 AM
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2. Memo to Alan Keyes:
SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

SHUT UP!

IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, JUST! SHUT! UP!
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:05 AM
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3. No please let him talk
:evilgrin:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:07 AM
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4. How can a black man be so bigoted?
You would think he would have some compassion for other oppressed groups.

Just another mentally ill Republican.
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:08 AM
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5. Why not?
The same could be asked whenever a black man murders someone it just happens :)
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:19 AM
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8. Yes, but you would think that being a victim of discrimination
might make you more sensitive to the pain it causes. I guess that's not always true though. Hate seems to crowd out all higher emotions, such as love and compassion. :)
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:21 AM
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9. Breaking News... Straight People Produce Gays & Lesbians
Just in case they are not aware of it!
LOL
:kick:
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:02 PM
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11. Keyes is not a nice man
What, the Cheney's weren't offended when he insulted their daughter? But Kerry compliments her and they are?
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:02 PM
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12. Me: Alan Keyes' brain causes stupid shit to spew from his mouth.
I ignore everything he says. He has absolutely no chance of winning. He has never won an election. He should be completely ignored.
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Captain Obvious Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:03 PM
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13. Ignorant creep!
How they even thought this guy could challenge Obama is a mystery to me.
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AnaDFrat Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:19 PM
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15. Email to Safire re his column in NYTimes--Kerry's May Cheney remark
I, unfortunately, rarely write to columnists, but DUers are so good at it that I decided to try it myself.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/18/opinion/18safire.html?hp

Here's my reply.

"Where was your column when Keyes called Mary Cheney a "selfish hedonist?"

Is your concern that now more people know that Ms. Cheney was born a lesbian or that the Republican base now cannot conveniently ignore that fact?

The fact is that she is a lesbian and her family purportedly supports her. Get over it! The continuation of this story only convinces and further inflames your base, it does not affect the perception of Kerry by his supporters. Those who hate Kerry will only hate him a little more.

There are so many more important issues to devote a column. Do you need any ideas? I'm sure we can come up with some.

My second post. But I do read just about everything in here. Keep up the great work!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:21 PM
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16. As rational as it was the first time this tsrategy was used
1930s Germany.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:26 PM
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17. Exactly.
What a disgusting, hateful, pig.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:39 PM
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19. The man is obviously not a math major
:eyes:
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:39 PM
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20. Hiphopnation23: Alan Keyes is a deranged idiot
and should be ignored at all costs. That is all.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:48 PM
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21. This is consistent with the absolute "creationist" views
I've been looking in to this and noticed this quote from a web page that maintains one must believe the earth was created in 24 hour days, etc.
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http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v24/i3/morality.asp

"So, consistent evolutionists who acknowledge what their philosophy is really saying know that an evolutionary worldview is devoid of absolute morals.

<snip>

As the evolutionary foundation of no right or wrong overtakes the Biblical concept of personal responsibility , we can expect people to have less defined boundaries in both young and adult life, resulting in increasing social and family problems."
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See - society breaks down if you believe in evolution.... :silly:



Here is some more "logic" for you - if you can take it:

"As you add up all of the dates, and accepting that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came to Earth almost 2000 years ago, we come to the conclusion that the creation of the Earth and animals (including the dinosaurs) occurred only thousands of years ago (perhaps only 6000!), not millions of years. Thus, if the Bible is right (and it is!), dinosaurs must have lived within the past thousands of years."

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2.asp
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:46 PM
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23. P.S.
I noticed on another page that some have figured out that they cannot use the Bible to argue against gay marriage... so the tactic suggested is to argue for the greater good of society:



http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0830letter.asp

"The church will not even begin to be on the right road to attempt to win the gay marriage issue, or the abortion issue, or any other of these social battles, unless it publicly stands on the authority of the Word beginning in Genesis.

The real issue is that gay marriage is not the problem as such?it?s a symptom of a far greater problem: that God?s Word is no longer considered the absolute authority.

Christian leaders need to repent of compromising God?s Word in Genesis 1?11 and begin proclaiming the fact that God?s Word can be trusted in its history (including its science) and thus it can be trusted in its morality. Until this happens, the church will continue to lose the culture war."

<snip>


?Which is just? To take care of this very small group that wants their sexual preference.... They wanted that to be equaled with heterosexual marriage, where over here where we?ve got the rights of all the children.

?I would say that anyone looking at what?s just for society says we?ve got to first do what is best due for those kids. So, make the argument with your secular neighbors and with politicians on the basis of what is good and just and right for society as a whole?

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These are people with extreme views - the universe was created in 6 - 24 hour days - there were dinosaurs on the Ark, etc.

So there you go.

Keyes seems to be a spokesperson for this way of "thinking".

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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:25 PM
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25. There is some truth to their argument. THEIR society breaks down
if you dare teach evolution. It could never handle the scrutiny of the light of fact, truth, science and mathematics.

instead of bigotry, violence, religious wars and strife, you might have rational people actually trying to improve things.

Our statutes, codes and morals are not based on a religion; rather they permit various religions to continue their own wash 'n rinse of kids' brains.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:52 PM
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22. Sexually repressive environments cause sexual aberration.
There's more likely to be incest and sexual abuse in Alan's church than there is in gay and lesbian households.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:15 PM
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24. Gay nuns and priests
I spent 12 yrs under nuns and priests many of whom no doubt were, at least, closet homosexuals. And, we now know many priests were sadistic child molesters. Well I did not become a nun or priest as a result, though I do like other guys! ;>)

What is repressed is obsessed!
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