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Sat Aug-30-03 08:29 AM
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What will it take for Bush to be impeached? |
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I am apalled at what this administration has gotten away with...from the Patriot Act, Clean Air, Iraq....etc.
What will it take? Clinton got harrassed and the government stagnated while the GOP ran a witch hunt over a blow job. This bastard * goes on month long vacations while our boys are dying overseas, he is fundraising instead of working, and he is giving away tax money to the rich so they can start more companies overseas...and yet there isn't enough outrage...
He lied in his state of the union... He lied about getting us into this horrible war.. He has appointed criminals to administration positions Wanna talk about conflict of interest...this administraton has rewarded Halliburton with more than a BILLION dollars already..
What will it take?
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:32 AM
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1. Starship Enterprise does slingshot around the sun... |
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...goes back in time and takes over the media. Kirk and Spock open the sealed Presidental records. Clinton is elevated to a God.
I can dream, can't I? :-)
Roll Tide!
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:38 AM
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3. I hate to think of it as hopeless... I really worry about this bastard |
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:40 AM
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4. It would be more funny if it weren't TRUE! |
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It would take something science fiction/fantasy to get a impeachment bill out of this house. They could catch George stabbing Laura Bush, live on national television, and the Replutocans in congress would say she 'deserved it' and 'had it coming'. If the Late J.C. himself appeared before the House of Reps in all his glory, with angels singing dirges and said "This man George Bush is a affront to My Father and must be removed from office", they would say he meant some other George Bush.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:44 AM
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The sad part is that you’re right.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:26 AM
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27. But the Borg(following hard on Enterprises heals) |
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turn Clinton into a Borg after neutralizing Spock. Kirk was determined to be insufficient Borg stock and was terminated.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:35 AM
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2. Same question I keep asking myself. |
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Obviously it will take an act of divine providence.
Speaking of God, read what he has to say about the wicked men of violence in Psalm 10. Read it in several versions is they are available. Makes you want to ask God what is taking him so long to fulfill this scripture.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:52 AM
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14. You can read it in multiple versions right here: |
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:45 AM
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6. As long as repukes own the media and control Congress |
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and Dems have spines of jelly.......the chimp could pump a dozen rounds into a random target with an AK-47 in the middle of the SOTU...and the press would applaud his marksmanship.
He'll never be impeached - and he knows it. That smirk he wears on his puss screams "I'm one arrogant SOB and I can get away with anything."
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:47 AM
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7. Stop wasting your time--it isn't going to happen |
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The Republicans control the House, Senate, and the White House. There is no way they are going to impeach their own president. None whatsoever.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:49 AM
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8. Although I agree that his actions |
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qualify as impeachable offenses, I think a better use of our attention, time and money would be to see that a Democrat (ABB) gets in office in 2004.
However, if Bush wins (steals) the next election, then full steam ahead with a push for impeachment.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:51 AM
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12. We have a far larger job... we need to knock his ass out |
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and get as many dems elected to help undo the Repuke majority in the House and Senate
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Sat Aug-30-03 11:13 AM
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lame duck president impeached.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:50 AM
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9. Bush couldn't get impeached by molesting a four year old boy |
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live on national television.
There is no crime this man cannot commit.
We're in a dictatorship now. When you have the top executive of Diebold openly admitting he is committed to handing the electoral votes of Ohio to Bush, the fix is solidly in and there is no going back.
America is dead. It died on December 12, 2000.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:52 AM
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13. That Diebold thing is the issue that set me off this morning! |
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I am so pissed about it I can't see straight!
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:54 AM
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42. No, Walt, I think that would do it. |
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Because if Junior molested a 4 year old boy on live television, the CHINO's would brand him as a "sodomite" and demand his removal from office the next day. A 4 year old girl, on the other hand, would probably be dismissed with "she was asking for it".
But leaving the kids out of it, I'd be willing to bet that if the Shrub got a blow job from a male intern, the flames from the reactionary CHINO faction would be enough to get rid of him. A homosexual pResident would be more than their fragile minds could handle.
Now the question is, is there a gay guy out there who would be willing to go that far in service to his country? :evilgrin:
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:56 AM
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44. I think they would blow it off as Bush needing some diversion |
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from the stresses of being a god amongst politicians.
The CHINO's worship him. He can do no wrong. If they looked to their damned book, they would find Bush in every pasage describing The Beast.
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Sat Aug-30-03 11:05 AM
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46. Does it have to be an intern? |
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Couldn't Arthur Ashe "fill in"? Just get a film of the "event" on one of shrubbie's visits to his old roommate.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:50 AM
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10. When the financial and corporate elite get tired of it.. |
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..and enough of the wealthy feel their own wealth and status is endangered. Then, miraculously, their lackeys in the corporate media will turn against Bush/Cheney and company and things will snowball faster than an avalanche down the Matterhorn.
Not happening yet. But Blair is in trouble.
Schneider on CNN yesterday (almost never watch that but caught it for a few seconds yesterday) was comparing Blair's lack of credibility with... you guessed it.. Bill Clinton! The obvious parallel to Bush's credibility escaped this brilliant political 'pundit.'
When the likes of Schneider and Friedman turn on Bush and company instead of going for Bill Clinton's zipper, it will be the beginning of the end.
It's up to those who hold the levers of wealth and power to decide to avert catastrophe - that is, the possible destruction of the entire political/economic system and corrupt apparatus that supports them. When that happens, Bush and Cheney will fall so fast it will take our breath away.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:51 AM
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11. Pictures of Him and Condi in a hotel room together all over the tabloids |
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Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 08:55 AM by Alex88
semi-dressed would bother the Christian Right and their southern base. Maybe that.
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:59 AM
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19. Of course, then the impeachment question would be purely academic, |
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as Laura would have already brought him to justice and sent him to his final "reward."
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:58 AM
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....another vehicular homic....er, uh tragic accident?
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:53 AM
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How about with Condileeza Rice?
Here's the defense: At least Condileeza is African American, GW was just showing the American public his inculsiveness? Unlike Bill Clinton who just had affairs with white women!!!!!!!
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:53 AM
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16. A non-gop congress ... nt |
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:53 AM
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17. We will never see him impeached BUTTTTT!!!!!! |
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We can start a recall on Jeb. Florida DUers unite. He is not enforcing laws, but waiting to put them back on the ballot to get rid of them. ie, The bullet train that is supposed to be started this year, class size, the Everglades agreement.
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Sat Aug-30-03 11:09 AM
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47. Correct me if I'm wrong but... |
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I've been told that Florida DOESN'T allow a recall of the Governor. How CONVEEEEEEEEEENIENT!
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Sat Aug-30-03 08:54 AM
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Since January 20, 2001 we have been living in Bizarro World where the truth is the lie and the lie is the truth.
In Bizarro World, one can be impeached for sex, yet lying about taking our country to war is thought of as a virtue.
In Bizarro World, the guy who gets the most votes loses.
These are some strange times, indeed.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:02 AM
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:02 AM
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20. He'll NEVER be impeached by this congress........ |
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he will however, go down in defeat in 2004.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:04 AM
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22. Didn't you hear? The fix is in |
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And it's mandated by federal law (HAVA).
Bush will be dictator for life.
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Sat Aug-30-03 04:06 PM
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59. Jiminy Cricket's sitting on my shoulder whispering over, and over & over |
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some phrase referring to James Dean???
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:10 AM
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has to answer to its peoples.. if people would contact there reps tell them they are so pissed about bush..then at the end state that they are willing to campaign against their reps in upcoming elctions...then maybe something would be done....these spineless asses have to be voted out!!!! We have to start at the bottom of the ladder in our own states.....this can be done....wpek together in election cycles...
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:12 AM
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25. I agree...I see already that my local repuke rep is |
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scared...he has even had the audacity to show up at Democratic picnics...no joke...
I want a Dem president and then a dem congress to help set in motion an investigation and trial for these rat bastards....
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:11 AM
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24. Impeachment is not a criminal process... |
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it is a purely political process, and has always been that.
The few impeachments we've seen, except for the occasional Federal judge, weren't driven by the "crimes" but by politics.
There has to be a sense that the the President has no right to be in office. That's what happened with Clinton, Nixon, and A. Johnson. Their political opponents smelled blood and felt it was a good time to evict the occupant. Don't think for a minute that anyone felt Watergate was such a big deal any more than Whitewater was. They saw Nixon as weak and ready to take the fall. Whitewater was payback for that.
There has to be a general disgust in the population that they can capitalize on, and there's no critical mass for that now.
There also have to be majorities in Congress to get the impeachment bill passed.
The bill is sitting in the bottom drawers of many Democratic congresscritters just waiting for the right time, which may never come. Meanwhile, the best we can do for now is work to get the bum thrown out next year.
Or figure out how to get a serious Democratic majority in the House real soon.
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:42 AM
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" Don't think for a minute that anyone felt Watergate was such a big deal any more than Whitewater was. " If so, it's because they didn't know what they had right away. Watergate was a horrible series of crimes committed by an administration that the people thought they could trust. Whitewater was a nothing pushed by people who refused to trust the President, no matter what.
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Sat Aug-30-03 05:25 PM
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Nixon opened up China, a pivotal point in this country's history, That he was removed from office by his political enemies shows you that people back then were still affronted by power mad psychos.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:15 AM
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26. There is a joke around here |
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that a candidate is so safe that it would take a live boy or a dead girl for (inevitably) him to lose his seat.
Chimp would need a cub scout troop and video proof.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:28 AM
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28. All a "dead girl" did to Scarborough |
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was land him a cushy job on MSRNC.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:35 AM
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30. We take dead people seriously in Oklahoma. |
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Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 09:38 AM by spotbird
The rest of the world may not. Shub would likely get a pass on a dead girl too, he has one on dead soldiers.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:37 AM
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32. I wouldn't be so sure of that |
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With the double standard regarding prominent Republicans and prominent Democrats, yes it would be a problem for a prominent Democrat.
I stand by the statement that Republicans are allowed to get away with murder in this country because they're Republicans.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:32 AM
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29. Impossible with Republican Congress. |
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The Republicans will never eat their own President.
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That's the truth. The leadership of the Republican party is fantastically corrupt, and so long as BushCo helps keep them in power they will never touch him. Heck, Delay wants to become Speaker of the House - do you think he'd ever want to take down Bush?
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:37 AM
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even the "Starship Enterprise" can't help us.
The Democrats are too spineless to pursue such a course, and as long as the Repugs own Congress and the media, its moot.
There is a chance of a future administration pursuing legal remedies for some of the crimes that have been committed.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:45 AM
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and massive troop deaths in Iraq. sorry to say. and the absence of WMD. IF the PEOPLE WANT IT, the reptilicans in congress will be forced into it, or they will just demand Bush resign. PERIOD. No matter what the evil Delay wishes.
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Sat Aug-30-03 09:48 AM
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34. I'm starting to believe that Nader was right |
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There isn't indeed much difference between the two parties, is there?
I do know that the people by the people for the people are not the government. It is big corporations, big business.
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what does it take? Being beaten over the head with another dose of evidence? We've had evidence since the 2000 election that Nader was right.
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:12 AM
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35. Unequivocal evidence that he has violated. . . . |
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a SPECIFIC statute in the criminal code. Prove that he has committed a CRIME and he will be impeached.
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:27 AM
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36. he'll have to commit an impeachable offense |
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Clinton did, Bush has not been shown to have done so.
Its not about fair, its about the rules.
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:40 AM
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37. Michael Moore says in the 2nd CD of Columbine |
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in an interview with Charlie Rose "that the Repugs that werre investigating Clinton were using at least 200 FBI agents in 1998 up to the elections and they are responsible for not having those agents out connecting the dots". Basically if they had been able to do their job instead of partisan investigating maybe they would have and could have investigated the flight schools, the guys coming in the US that were on the watch list etc.
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:44 AM
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40. and the impeachable offense of Bush in this is ? |
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and if cops were looking for murderers insted of writting traffic tickets... blah blah blah
he screwed up, he got caught, he took the hit
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Sat Aug-30-03 04:17 PM
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After a couple of brief, mild grumbles, he was excused by his adoring media.
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Sat Aug-30-03 11:25 AM
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53. He knowingly lied during commission of the SOTU address |
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that is considered a felony...and that makes it a "high crime"
Only problem is, like the illegal actions of the Pukes in the 2000 election, the Democrats won't do anything about it.
"Oh, ho hum, `Bush impeached'...what novelty! Don't worry, we'll run some miltary general and we'll get the rascal out in 04!"
:nuke: :nuke:
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:42 AM
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39. Introduce him to Monica Lewinsky |
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:44 AM
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41. Under the Double Standard rule, that wouldn't do it |
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Monica could only get a Democrat impeached. Republicans are immune to criminal acts.
Clinton gets a hummer and is impeached. Bush is directly responsible for 3000 murders and will never be touched.
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Sat Aug-30-03 10:55 AM
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43. the worse he performs |
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the more power he gains...
havent u noticed yet?
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The people who support him blindly are in control.. THEIR jobs are on the line . He and his fundraising juggernaut are what THEY need to retain THEIR positions.. They will not bite hthe hand that feeds them..
The Clinton impeachment was a "perfect storm" and hopefully will never happen again.. As bad as Bush is, impeachment is NOT the answer.. Investigation would be nice, but it's not gonna happen.. Waxman and the others can rail about it as much as they want, but without the media "driving the bus" it's not happening.. Watergate would have never been investigated without the constant pressure from the press.. We have a puppydog press now, and they are not (capable) willing to go for it..
It's unlikely to happen..:(
Public humiliation in the press is what Bush needs..Impeachment is not necessary..
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Sat Aug-30-03 05:14 PM
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65. Impeachement IS the answer |
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I firmly believe that the actions of this president are exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they included impeachemnt within the Consititution.
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Sat Aug-30-03 11:19 AM
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51. A real Democratic party |
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since that won't happen you might as well not think about it
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Sat Aug-30-03 11:31 AM
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54. Hippos in trees and a frozen over hades |
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or he showes up to the next state of the union address completely bombed, with his pants down screaming "bring em on" to a group of women.....
but even then he'll have to change parties
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Sat Aug-30-03 12:16 PM
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57. Changing Parties is the requirment |
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Until he gets that (R) out from behind his name, he's immune from prosecution or even from criticism.
It's treason to criticize Whistle Ass.
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Sat Aug-30-03 12:24 PM
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58. I take that as a rhetorical question |
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I want to resist answering, but since there are people convinced that it CAN (not you) or WILL happen, it is time for some anti-delusional therapy.
It just isn't going to happen, for some of the following reasons:
I caught hell (well, I welcomed it) by saying not even the SOTU lies would create a stir. They did not, I am vindicated, and of course, my critics have not given up their delusions.
The WH, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, the news networks, the majority of statehouses, and too many newspapers are in Republican hands.
Bush could shit on the flag at the WTC site and he would be applauded as a hero on the evening news. Consider how well-received his Third World jaunt on an aircraft carrier was fawned over by Paula Zahn and the like.
As long as fear is the prevailing ethos in governing the nation and driving the content of the news, we're fucked.
Meanwhile, 41%, a substantial minority of people, fear there will be a terrorist attack on US soil any day now...
There will be no impeachment, Hillary will not run, and Wesley Clark is not our savior.
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Sat Aug-30-03 04:14 PM
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60. For one thing, a second term |
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Other things aside, I don't think there is enough time. If, on the slim chance he is re-elected, then impeachment is a serious option that should be pursued.
But for now, the easiest thing to do is vote him out.
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Sat Aug-30-03 04:15 PM
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61. The resignation and replacement with Dems of 18 Repuke Congressmen (n/t) |
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Sat Aug-30-03 04:22 PM
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63. Hell to freeze over. n/t |
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It's gonna take not letting him off the hook for anything he does. Everything must be explained. No trust me deals for thye puking liar. Starting with unsealing the presidential papers. Number one on the agenda. Energy meeting, keep the heat on. Oh, and how about finding the antrax terrorist??? Postal employees died. Where's the investigation?
We all know how they try to change the subject. Don't let them.
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Sat Aug-30-03 05:20 PM
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66. A Democratic Congress!! |
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Either that, or enough Republicans in the House with the guts enough to stand up to Tom "Cockroach" DeLay, tell him to go to hell where he came from, and vote to impeach the BCF (via discharge petition); 18 Republican senators with the guts enough to say no to Bobblehead Ricky Santorum; and help from God!!! :)
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