If Saddam were still in power....

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

1108 US troops and 140 coalition troops would still be alive.

35,000 + Iraqis would still be alive.

50 Iraqi men would not have been executed.

Sadr City and Fallujah would still be structurally intact.

Iraqis would not be afraid for their children to leave their homes.

171 + US contractors would be alive.

al-Zaqwari would still be contained in the Northern area of Iraq.

380,000 tons of explosives would still be under IAEA control.

80 billion plus dollars would still be US government coffers.

The Iraqi unemployment rate would not be at 50%.

Yep, if Saddam was still in power, things would be sooo much worse (sarcasm on).

MKJ

[krkaufman]

1. Actually, we could still have gone after al Zarqawi...

... and even should have done so before invading.

[Sara Beverley]

3. Saddam would have been just a glad for us to get rid of Zarqawi as we.

So many things could have been done differently had it not been for the neocon push and rush to accomplish their agenda while they had a "friend" in the WH.

[Inland]

4. Bush refused three times to approve taking out Zarquawi

in order to bolster his case for a full scale invasion. MSNBC so reported in March of 2004

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/

[krkaufman]

6. Yes, but we're hypothesizing a different reality here.

A President not tunnel-visioned on Saddam and Iraq may have rightfully targeted Zarqawi and his camps.

[jgardner]

2. I can't stand to think about what we've done to the people

of Iraq. No wonder the rest of the world thinks much less of America now. Personally, I don't think that we have any right to "fix" other countries while we're in such a rotten mess here at home.

[Javaman]

5. We've been "fixing" countries for our entire history...

This is the first time we did it in an obvious way. Read up on central America sometime. Remember we also wanted to "fix" Viet Nam so the Communists wouldn't cause a "domino effect" in the region. That worked like charm.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. True.

North Korea is a "flourishing symbol of Freedom"! (sarcasm)

[lynintenn]

8. A lot of Iraqi's Would still have their children

sitting at the dinner table with them.
I feel ashamed of what we have done to these people

[ArkDem]

9. Everytime I think about how we killed his sons and seperated

all of his family, I weep.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

10. Rejoicing in killing somebody's children, and displaying their bodies

like trophy kills, was as disgusting a thing as I've ever seen. MKJ

[ArkDem]

11. You can bet Saddam would never have done such a crude

thing.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

12. Uh OK, whatever, I didn't think we were comparing our policies to

Saddam's. His regime is not the standard our country should aspire to. MKJ


on edit...just one more sentence. MKJ

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

15. Hi ArkDem...did a cursory search of your posts. Wow, you racked up

a lot of three and four word posts and yet still exuded that unmistakable FR aura. Even your sig line is freeper friendly. Buh bye. MKJ

[OneTwentyoNine]

13. Actually their spending money in Iraq they haven't even earned yet...

Its all fucking borrowed,we paid something like 180 BILLION in interest this year on the National debt. If Gore or even Clinton could have had these last four years we might actually be close to having the national debt whittled down to zero--or at least in the coming year or two.

[Egalitariat]

14. How much did the national debt decrease under Clinton

That's an interesting stat. I knew he created huge surpluses but I wasn't aware he'd used it to pay down any debt. I'd like to have that stat for my RW-fighting toolbox.

[OneTwentyoNine]

17. I don't think all that much if any....

What Clinton planed to do in his two terms was balance the budget and get us back to a small surplus. He achieved that goal--I think a year or two sooner than thought and ended with a 250 Billion $$$ surplus.

If those would have continued we could have started paying down the national debt. I doubt that it would have been wiped out in four years but a huge chunk would undoubtedly been payed off. I doubt that we would have been paying $180 BILLION in interest like we did this year.

David

[indigobusiness]

16. Civilian death toll in Iraq exceeds 100,000

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=611455

LONDON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been killed in violence since the U.S.-led invasion last year, American public health experts have calculated in a report that estimates there were 100,000 "excess deaths" in 18 months.