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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:48 PM
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John Kerry Had Every Right to Concede in Dignity.
and i love him more for it.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:51 PM
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1. You are absolutely right
he did not deserve to have the sleezeballs at FauxNews and the ditto-heads drag his name through the mud in a futile effort in Ohio. Kerry ran a classy campaign against the most classless campaign in many years run by Bush - Cheney.
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:53 PM
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3. Here Here
Three cheers for KERRY
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:18 PM
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21. Amen
I'll drink to that. Hell, at this point, I'll drink to anything.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:30 PM
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33. I Am Starting To Laugh Again! And 3 Cheers For Kerry
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:52 PM
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2. I still haven't seen a viable alternative offered
3,000,000 behind in the PV, and he would have needed to gain 139,000 or so on Bush in OH to win it, when at most there were 250,000 provisional ballots to be counted.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:57 PM
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8. neither have i.
and the man is not stupid or meek. he went against the president in this climate and he deserves our respect,
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:00 PM
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10. indeed
not just anyone would be willing to stand up to that machine

:toast: to JK for being man, and human, enough to do it
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:02 PM
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11. john could have run at any time
but he chose the most risky time...and for that i think anyone who calls him meek is a moron.

:loveya:
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:03 PM
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13. he chose the worst, and the most important time
and I dare anyone to say there was someone better for the job, now, in 2004, to go after these fools

:loveya:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:53 PM
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4. Got no problem with that. eom
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:53 PM
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5. Me, too!
Not his fault that 50+ MM (I think) decided to support Bush. It was a simple choice, really, and way too many rewarded incompetence. They deserve to get what they've got. Sadly, we'll be taken along for the ride against our better judgement.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:55 PM
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6. he had every right to claim that Mars is made out of peanut butter
and green monkeys fly out his ass when he eats lima beans.

Still wouldn't change the fact that he's a loser and a quitter.

He also punctuated the "flip-flop" attacks on him by the repukes.

In the morning he vows to fight until every last vote is counted. Then he meekly quits and pukes up a conciliatory, mewling concession before all the votes are counted.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:56 PM
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7. maybe he has more access to mathematicans and experts
than you do
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:14 PM
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18. maybe
but would the little bushturd be rolling over on his back groveling to Kerry if the tables were turned?

Hell no. Half the repukes in the country would be camped out in Columbus rioting for the TV cameras right now.

This is not about mathematics and expertise. It is about power.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:17 PM
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20. if we follow everything they do
what makes us different?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:18 PM
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23. the use to which we put the power we win
would define us
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:20 PM
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25. Democrats support voter rights and Republicans oppose voter
rights, that's the difference.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:26 PM
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31. lioness, I'm not flaming you
I'm a fan of yours. I'm angry and disappointed.

this was an even weaker reaction than the Dems gave in 2000.

We're in an alley fight and we keep losing because we are too pure to fight on the repuke's terms.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:54 PM
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36. i just think that kerry took a huge risk for us
we should respect the amount of courage it takes to run against teh bush mafia. i am proud of him. i really am.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:55 PM
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37. what, exactly, should Kerry have done?
:shrug:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:33 PM
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38. kept fighting
parade every Dem surrogate he could find to spin talking points about the repuke theft of our democracy

sued every neocon motherfucker from the dogcatcher in Broward County to the little bushturd himself and fought every lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court.

Kept screaming "Republican theft of our democracy!" until Scalia told him personally to shut up.

for starters
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:59 PM
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9. I disagree vehemently although ...
you did get a hearty chuckled out of me with the "green monkeys fly out his ass when he eats lima beans" line.

:D
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:03 PM
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12. It lets them count the votes in peace.
Wonder who all the challenged voters went for?
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:04 PM
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14. He had every right to fight too.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:06 PM
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15. and make us go through 2000 again with half the reason?
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:21 PM
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26. There will be no investigation of the performance of those voting machines
It has set the precedent of accepting the results of these machines without challenge. We may never win another election.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:22 PM
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27. I'd rather go through 2000 again then have the candidate
give up the day after the election.
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americanwomanone Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:11 PM
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16. John Kerry is a Class Act
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:13 PM
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17. The simply fact is we chose him.
He is the one in the hot seat for us. I believe he made the choice that he thought best for him & us. I will not rag on Senator Kerry or let anyone around me do so.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:15 PM
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19. i completely agree
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:18 PM
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22. I don't.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 08:18 PM by Eric J in MN
Kerry shouldn't have conceded until after every vote was counted.

There is nothing undignified about supporting voting rights.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:24 PM
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30. And given how goddamned suspicious
it is that the exit polls indicated a different outcome in Florida and Ohio, he should have fought like hell to figure out why and unmask the fraud that allowed this theft. Two elections in a row and Kerry concedes without a fight? Think chimp would have conceded given the same circumstances? Think again.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:20 PM
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24. I agree.....he has my utimate respect
He fought for this country in Vietnam, when he didn't have to.

He testified against the immoral Vietnam War, when he didn't have to.

He fought against the immoral Nixon admin, when he didn't have to.

He stood up for Liberal ideals in the Senate, when he didn't have to.

He ran against the most corrupt, lying, sleazy president, when he didn't have to.

He is not a quitter, he is a realist...he was not going to embarrass the party and us by dragging out an inevitable loss.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:23 PM
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29. It isn't embarassing to support voting rights (nt)
nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:22 PM
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28. Hear, hear
Richard Nixon (shock!) did the same thing in '60: he conceded because he thought the country would be more polarized if he challenged the result in IL. Kerry did what was needed--because he just did not have the votes.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:27 PM
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32. {Applauding} He was wonderful in his speech.
I wish I could have been there. I can only imagine how difficult today was for and JE and thier families.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:35 PM
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34. I have nothing but good feeling toward Kerry
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 08:38 PM by nu_duer
and this wasn't always the case.

This nation just passed up an opportunity of real leadership and vision for a goddamn twisted illusion of some pseudo-Christian fairytale. That's not Kerry's fault.

He ran a great campaign.

I just wish I could get one meaningful hug from the guy, in that yellow coat. I really want that.

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