Was this BBV Ohio issue posted here before??

berner59

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:34 AM
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Was this BBV Ohio issue posted here before??

Over 92K over votes in one county?? This issue can't just go away...this is so damning...

http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id20.html

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Pirate Smile

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:39 AM
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1. Please post this over under Presidential Results and / or Report

Voting problems.

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Meritaten1

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:44 AM
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2. Verification of the numbers

is also essential.

Has anyone checked to insure that the information is correct?

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berner59

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:47 AM
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6. there's a link there...

as to where they got their numbers from... Right in the 1st paragraph.

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thecrow

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:44 AM
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3. link doesn't work for me

According to the source view, there is nothing on that page.

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thecrow

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:48 AM
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7. But... click on the links in the source code and you get:

Welcome!

Key pieces of information will be highlighted to allow persons possibly unfamiliar with all the data/info to become familiar with the 2004 election issue.

E-Vote Glitch Inflates Bush Total November 5, 2004
Nader requests hand recount of NH

Government officials request investigation of new technological voting procedures and problems in voting and numbers (pdf file)

Give the DNC your feedback

The campaign to the 2004 election has raised much speculation in where our country is going. The elections held November 2 (and weeks preceeding in some areas) raised even more speculation on where our country is headed.

Before you get started, watch this trailer:
http://www.votergate.tv/

Go to Cuyahoga County Page (left) - there are 33 precincts in that county alone that have 90% or higher voter turn out! As high as 1160.78%! That is impossible! All sources are listed on that page - used actual data from the county. You can do the math yourself!

Look at Liberty County for example:

Liberty
Op-Scan-Precinct
% CHANGE REP 712.3%
% CHANGE DEM -59.9%
ACTUAL REP 1,927
ACTUAL DEM 1,070
TOTAL VOTES 3,021
% REG REP 7.9%
% REG DDEM 88.3%
TOTAL REG 4,075

For a total # of registered voters of 4075, there should only be 322 Republicans at best. So how did they get 1927 VOTES?!

It says that there are 2667 registered Democrats and 237 registered Republicans. HOW DID 1927 VOTE FOR BUSH AND 1070 VOTE FOR KERRY?
Even though it is possible that the democrats decided to vote for Bush overwhelmingly, it is HIGHLY unlikely given the kind of Democrats that live in Florida. The only difference between these counties is the Op-Scan vs the Touchscreen.

just did some quick math... what I CAN tell you in percent math is that only 8.1% of the county is registered republican... but Bush got 64.3% of the vote? Don't these people TALK in this precinct? Can't the citizens demand a recount?

Please be patient - there is a lot of information from the forums to organize and get up here. I'll work as quickly as I can. Without dreamweaver (I've been unemployed for two months and it's just too expensive), this takes quite a bit of time.

email feedback and additional information to:
nohometown@yahoo.com

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dweller

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:51 AM
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8. it works for me

Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 10:18 AM by dweller

using Netscape COMPOSER.

Discovered long ago many pages will not open with Netscape, i think due to ads,popups, etc.
So i force it open in composer.

the page is still there.

dp

edit: just from a cursory glance, there are at least 2 dozen counties with over 100% vote totals cuyahoga co (sp) with 248% the largest...

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NOWMDNOGWB

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:46 AM
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4. those are mostly bush areas of the county

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Pirate Smile

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Mon Nov-08-04 10:06 AM
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9. Mostly Bush areas with over 100% turnout. Hmmm.

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batchdem04

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Mon Nov-08-04 09:47 AM
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5. first time i have seen this

please post in other forums...this could be big

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