You will NOT be able to change the way religious people think.

[TeddyKGB]

Changing how they vote, on the other hand, is doable.

That's a discussion appropriate for a political board. All else is wasted time.

Point out where Bush & the Repugs have contradicted "Christian values" (and there's a lot there), and maybe you've got something.

[flakey_foont]

1. Doable, maybe

but far too many of them seem to think that GWB is annointed by God to lead them into some kind of permanent Jesusland theme park type of existence...

they preach pro-life,, yet worship a God, whom if you believe the Book of Genesis in the Bible,,,say, the story of the Great Flood - along with Noah's family, only 2 of every species of animal around at the time was spared - that would mean that an awful lot of babies, kittens, puppies were needlessly killed in horribly fashion because of a few bad apples who pissed the Big Guy off....

[Maat]

2. See my post about uniting.

We have got to loudly proclaim our association with legitimate religious/spiritual organizations. And drop out of those that aren't progressive. That's what I consider legitimate - those that make their congregants welcome - and do not engage in either election engineering!

[dogtag]

3. The fundies who have been successfully indoctrinated

into believing that a vote for Kerry or any other 'godless' Democrat earns them a one way ticket to hell are effectively lost to the cause, IMO. (unless we come up with a traveling 'god-squad' for just that portion of the electorate)

Forget them, and go for the religious people who are capable of logical thought. We have a fighting chance in that quarter.

[President Jesus]

4. agreed. the will never love us...but we can certainly, certainly...

...show them how the GOP uses them time and again, and they get NOTHING out of it. (Meanwhile policies benefiting the rich get acted up on immediately.)

My belief is that enough of them will slink back into non-voting status once their blind faith in the the GOP is broken.

[pelagius]

5. Some excellent thoughts in this thread

One in four Bush voters was a white evangelical Christian. If we can change this ratio to one in five, we win and we have a huge mandate. A swing of merely 5% from red to blue is enough to win.

We will not win over all or even most of those self-identified evangelicals. Never in a million years. But we don't have to. A small number of defections are all we need.