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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:18 PM
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new meme: Fundamentalist Christianity a "doomsday cult"
We need to get this out again and again -- Fundamenalist Christianity isn't another "religion," like the Presbyterians or Methodists or the Jews or the Sufis or anyone else. They are, specifically, a "doomsday cult," who brainwash their minions, and seek to bring about the deaths of millions.

They have absolutely no validity as a "voice" in an actual democracy -- no more than any other doomsday cult awaiting a fiery death, a visit from a specific UFO, the vat of kool-aid, etc.

So, in every LTE, email to friends, phone-in to talk shows, we must nail these fanatics and their "doomsday cult." Jerry Falwell on CNN today? That was a cable network giving valuable time to a doomsday cultist, etc.

Language means something. The other side knows this. We can't wimp out on ours.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:20 PM
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1. OOOOH! That is SO GOOD!!!!!
It is, in fact, a doomsday cult. Worse, it's a doomsday cult in control of the most powerful government on the face of the earth.
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Edmond Dantes Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:08 PM
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24. evangelical doomsday cults?
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:21 PM
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2. And let's meme Religious Extremist Doomsday cult
Surely they really don't want to bring about Armageddon do they? Are they all ready to "die and go to heaven"?
A NEW MEME IS DEFINATELY NEEDED.

Anyone here work in advertising? How can we get this out????????

BernieBear
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:21 PM
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3. A Moon success with the help of the Bushes and Senators and Congresspeople
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:22 PM
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4. I agree, but I prefer the terms
"The TaliBornAgain" and "The Republican Hezbollah". There are a lot of Fundamentalists (about 40% in 2000) who are not bush* fans.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:22 PM
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5. Doomsday Evangelicals has a certain Ring to it.
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:22 PM
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6. it is a death cult
where the afterlife has more meaning than the current life
(thats why budget deficits don't matter)

hmmm not unlike suicide bombers

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:23 PM
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7. It's only the truth.....plain & simple!.............n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:23 PM
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8. Now that works!!! I am picturing the "Hale Bopp suiciders"!
Weird, out of touch with the mainstream of Christians and America.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:28 PM
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9. we must emphasize how weird...
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 10:40 PM by villager
...and out of touch with the whole world these doomsday cultists in America are.

Of course, that would require alternate media channels, for starters...
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:29 PM
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10. OUCH!
I have born agains in the family and while I frequently want to throttle them (and yes even kill for a few days after the election) I dont want to see them classified in this way. I think we should be careful as (just like with anything else) there truly is a big range of values in this group of people.. some of them truly do represent what we would like to see in a good Christian and some clearly do a better job representing satan...
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GettysbergII Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:29 PM
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11. Need help with some lyrics
Need some good Dominionist theology words to go with this refrain:

"I don't care if it rains or freezes
Long as I got Pre-emptive Jesus
Hanging from the dashboard of my car"
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:30 PM
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12. Death Cult is best
Short and nasty & true " Today the Death Cult bla bla bla " it is a better sound bite Doom Cult (not scary enough) they dumb down the language to thier advantage,now it's our turn because in order for them to get it,it has to be sound bite size.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:33 PM
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15. "Doomsday cult" has a long history of use...
...we just haven't turned it against the biggest offenders/practitioners here in the US of A, yet.

Though "death cult" ain't bad, either. Let's get 'em both out there!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:31 PM
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13. Excellent !
:hi:
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:32 PM
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14. I like it!
More vivid imagery! It's how they get what they want, and we definitely can do the same.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:35 PM
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16. I refer to it as a "death cult" myself.
They have a fixation on what happens after death, to the exclusion of what is going on it their lives. That's why they're willing to sacrifice their jobs and their children's health care to get in good with God by voting for W.

That's why they're fixated on bringing death and destruction to Iraq.

They like to use the term "culture of life". I think "death cult" stands as the clearest contrast to that. I think the word "doomsday" has positive connotations for them.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:32 AM
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17. morning kick!
n/t
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:34 AM
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18. Yes I will be doing a documentary on this this month.
Does anyone know any fundie preachers or left behinfd readers in the NYC area?
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:37 AM
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19. go to www.d-word.com
...for some help getting docus ready, especially if you'll be shooting in the NY area...
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:40 AM
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20. I think the perfect way of describing fundamentalists
is that they are dedicated more to the culture of christianity than the teachings of it. Need to find a good term to boil that down into a single phrase. It wouldnt sound immediately demeaning but would get the message across that they really don't follow the teachings of Jesus. Although I guess doomsday cult gets to the same point, but I think it would be dismissed easier. Kinda like that rule of debate, "the first person to compare his opponent to Hitler automatically loses."
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:55 AM
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21. we're the only side playing by the "rules"
theirs isn't
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:09 PM
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22. one more kick...
...for eventide...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:49 PM
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23. The End Times Republicans believe Bush is leading them into the End Times.
They WELCOME nuclear events. They cheered 9-11 as the beginning of the end. They are crazed and they are Bush's REAL base that the media is too afraid to expose.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:07 PM
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25. absolutely right -- and it extends the "abuse" metaphor...
we are all being abused by the "crazy tyrant" of the Religious Right, but no one in the "family" will say it out loud.

Because then, you'd have to start changing things...
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