Why Kerry Conceded Despite Election Fraud

[Jack_Dawson]

Here's one take...Kerry is all about Kerry.

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_13427.shtml

[gauguin57]

1. I don't buy it. Kerry has wanted to be president since he was a teenager

... if he thought there were enough proof of voter fraud/computer glitches/whatever to give him enough votes, he'd be on it (UNDER THE RADAR).

We have NO IDEA what he is doing behind the scenes. There's no way he could work on this out in the open. The Right Wing would be all over him, with dirty tricks and "sore loser" screaming.

[zbdent]

4. Isn't that one of the RW talking points?

That Kerry was testifying before congress (at the risk of his own personal safety, don't mind the bullshit about how "America" was turning against the war) to enhance his chances at becoming President.

Remember, the line of thinking was that it was just a bunch of college kids on dope who were protesting the war. "'murika" was fighting the "spread of communism". Or at least that was the mantra while Clinton was being skewered for not suiting up . . .

[KC21304]

9. I'm with you.

I thought all the Halloween attire would have been off by now.

[gauguin57]

20. From the extensive NYT profile of Kerry earlier this year, I came to

believe he HAS long wanted to be president. I don't believe for one damned second that he testified about Vietnam because to enhance his presidential ambitions. But I do believe he's long wanted to be president. (God, you don't have to believe RW talking points about Vietnam to believe someone has always wanted to be president!)

And I consider it a total positive that he has had presidential ambitions all his life, just as I considered it a positive with Clinton.

From everything I've read about Bush, he never really sought to be president ... he sort of bumbled into it accidentally, when a bunch of top-level Repugs realized he was a good fundraiser. And we've seen what happens when an "accidental candidate" is thrust into the White House. TOTAL DISASTER!

Give me lifelong presidential ambition ANY DAY. People like that spend a lifetime honing their political skills. All Bush has honed is his BULLSHIT skills.

I love the fact that both Clinton and Kerry were teen-age politicians! I want a person in that office who REALLY wants it -- with all its stresses and problems.

I once voted against a decent candidate for PA governor because I read an interview with him that showed me it was his WIFE who wanted him to run -- he was more interested in working on grassroots issues and attending to his spiritual journey than being the big cheese.

[zbdent]

23. I remember hearing that Bush didn't have ambitions to be

President.

If anybody really wanted to push that, I would tell them flat out

"Bush could have said NO."

[Edmond Dantes]

10. I'm in total agreement. Kerry knows how to play smart.

If I were in Kerry's position, I would be pursuing this under the radar. In fact, having anticipated another stolen election, I would have had a sting operation in place.

It would be a nice addition to Plamegate.

Rove was working the phones from the WH Roosevelt Room on election night. There's a reason that the Bush family was at the WH instead of Crawford, TX. It's a more secure location from which to engage in fraud.

[AlGore-08.com]

11. If he thought there was enough proof of fraud, he wouldn't have conceded

His campaign put out enough press releases during the last month saying that they were ready to contest a close election and ready to fight it in the courts. They made a big deal out of it. Like so much else in the campaign, they sold it this way "John Kerry is not going to make the same mistake Al Gore did." In this instance, the mistake Gore supposedly made was to concede too early.

Kerry and Edwards spent a lot of time in Florida saying that they wouldn't allow this election to be stolen like the last one. Again, a big part of their spin was that they were not going to make the same mistakes Al Gore made, they had already ensured that vote fraud would not happen in 2004.

The fact that Kerry conceded means either that they took a look at what went down and decided that there was no vote fraud and Bush won legitimately. Or... it means that everything Kerry and Edwards said earlier about fighting to have every vote counted was just spin.

Kerry could make voting rights and election integrity an issue now, but I will bet you all a cookie he doesn't. Over 60% of Americans are satisfied that the election was fair and Smirk won legitimately. The LA Times, CBS and other sources say Kerry is considering another run in 2008. Kerry's not going to rock that boat.

[gauguin57]

15. Concession don't mean squat ... except that it gives him cover to do

his work. If enough evidence appears for a recount or an investigation or whatever, he can un-concede faster than Chimp loses his train of thought.

And besides ... "over 60 percent of Americans" is wrong, according to the AP story quoted by Olbermann last night. Only 54 percent feel confident in the election results. 39 percent feel much less confident that the election results are true.

[htuttle]

2. That's been my take

He conceded to try to save the rest of his political career.

[dmkinsey]

3. This crap just

really pisses me off.
Unless you're pschic you really don't know why anyone does anything. Unless of course they tell you

[bloom]

5. "Unless of course they tell you"

People don't always tell you everything.

Wouldn't it be fun to get presidential candidates all taking lie-detector tests? :)

[dmkinsey]

19. Yeah I'd support that

But what I'm really saying is
If you believe that John Kerry is really a corporate suck-ass then it's like we've been watching one of those TV shows where after a year they tell you it was all a dream.

I am not willing to believe that Kerry has been conning his millions of supporters for a whole year. I'm not willing to believe that we're all chumps.

I don't know why he conceded. I don't know what they're doing now.
I believe that John Kerry is a good man and a good candidate.
I believed in July and I believe it today.

[stickdog]

6. One thing is true. We need candidates with the guts to speak the truth

about the critical issues that corporate media ignores like BBV, media corruption, war profiteering, and economic justice.

Without the guts to speak the truth, our party will just keep digging its hole deeper and deeper.

[NuckinFutz]

7. Hang on a minute...

I've been thinkin' about this whole concession thing, and I have another take.

There are scads of lawyers and others, Bev Harris for one, investigating voter fraud, right? Maybe Kerry's concession was to put him 'above the fray' while the ruckus ensues. Gore didn't do this immediately in 2000, and came across as a petulant whiner/sore loser to a huge amount of people. Can't blame him, really, but I think it harmed his image, nonetheless. If the final results of all the investigations show Kerry to be the winner, he can graciously accept, and have a better chance at healing the rift between the reds and the blues. He and his team may very well be following or even working on the investigations under the radar, but in the long run, it will appear more fair if Kerry is not behind the investigations, less partisan, if you will.

I'm not saying this is the right way, just posing it as a theory.

[mzmolly]

8. Oh goody, let's start chipping away at our voting base for 06/08

already! :bounce:

NO wonder we lose elections. The Dems have to appease the left/right and everyone in between.

We need to draft a constitiution party candidate for 2008. I'm tired of this crap.

[sangh0]

12. That's right! We MUST concentrate on ruining Dems

Dems are the problem.

Pay no attention to the man in the White House.

:crazy:

[RyomaSakamoto]

14. CONVICTION

you got it :toast:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

17. The Constitution Party? Are you serious?

I just checked out their platform: repeal the Voting Rights Act, repeal all environmental legislation, families defined by God, xenophobia, multi-paragraph section on abortion, support for Roy Moore's display of the Ten Commandments, fund the government entirely on tariffs...

Sure, there's some good stuff in there, such as resistance to the Patriot Act and condemnation of job outsourcing and foreign intervention, but on the whole, the only candidate who would satisfy these people would be Pat Buchanan.

If you don't think so, read their platform:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php

[mzmolly]

24. To run against the Republicans! Not instead of the Democratic Candidate.

LOL.

Sorry for the confusion !

[RyomaSakamoto]

13. shhh... he actually didn't Concede, BEFORE he Conceded!

all part of da plan, relax man...

now, who ya think gonna win the 08 horse race?

psst... pass the word ;->

[kayell]

16. That's one take. Another is that if you're going to run a stealth

campaign against a clever and unscrupulous enemy, that you don't go tell a bunch of people.

We'll know by December 13. Until then it makes sense to behave as though we believe in Kerry, because all the efforts to alert people to the dangers of vote tampering are the most vital thing we can do now to protect/save democracy in this country.

[MISSDem]

18. That, quite frankly, is the silliest

thing I have ever read.

[K-W]

21. That's rediculous.

Kerry is a human being, not an abstraction in a class war. He conceded because he didnt have any immediate proof and he didnt want to spend a week looking like the sorest loser in the world on the chance that with some extra time they could find evidence.

So he conceded, because the results gave Bush the election. If someone can prove fraud or prove that Kerry won, Kerry can un-concede. He has to accept the election result until it is proven wrong.

[bemildred]

22. This piece has it exactly right.

You've been screwed. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

[ava27]

25. my freeper co-worker said he conceded because he's a traitor.

Could this be true?
Kerry really is a traitor the country. He wanted the United States to fail in the Vietnam War and that's why he is seen as a war hero in that country. He came back here and knew he wanted to be President to really mess up the country. Then when he gets his chance, he concedes and lets bush be pResident since he knows bush would do more damage to the country than he would.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

26. LOL......

....this will be their excuse when Bush has to say those magic words (hopefully soon)....

"And so, I resign the office of President, effective immediately..."