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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 04:25 PM
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Contact Senator Kerry's office and ask him to look into voter
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 04:44 PM by mzmolly
"irregularities in Ohio and Florida."

Approach this from a "voters need faith in the system" perspective. Kerry has a responsibility to make certain that Democrats turn out in 2008, and unless these issues are addressed ???

In Ohio and Florida counties using Opti-Scan have a paper trail. They can be manually counted. I think if we/he approaches this from an: Recent information shows that precints in Ohio and Florida using Opti-Scan machines had a great number of irregularities...we might get somewhere.

Kerry won't say the "F" word, and I don't expect him too.

But, he can demand a hand recount once the votes are tabulated (based on recent discoveries) right?

Send him links and info ...

;)

Washington D.C.
304 Russell Bldg.
Third Floor
Washington D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2742 - Phone
(202) 224-8525 - Fax

Email: http://kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/contact/email.html

Boston
One Bowdoin Square
Tenth Floor
Boston, MA 02114
(617) 565-8519 - Phone
(617) 248-3870 - Fax

Springfield
One Financial Plaza
Springfield, MA 01103
(413) 785-4610 - Phone
(413) 736-1049 - Fax

Fall River
222 Milliken Place
Suite 311
Fall River, Ma 02722
(508) 677-0522 - Phone
(508) 677-0275 - Fax

Worcester
90 Madison Place
Suite 205
Worcester, MA 01608
(508) 831-7380 - Phone

I just heard from Senator Nelsons office that they are waiting for Kerry's lead on this issue in Florida?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 04:45 PM
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1. Senator Kerry does listen to the people, please ask him to LEAD
on this issue, from a "voter confidence" perspective.
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BayStateBoy Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:18 AM
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14. Exactly. Kerry is Not fulfilling his promise to us. Get someone else.
If Kerry-Edwards don't request a recount, we can pretty much just give it up because nothing is likely to happen. No one takes seriously recount requests unless they come from the candidate(s).

I think Kerry is a fool not to request recounts in OH and particularly FL irrespective of whether his so called advisors think the votes are there. What there is out there is probably fraud and lots of it, and for him to ignore it is unconscionable.

1. Kerry promised that all the votes would be counted. 55 million Americans subscribed to that. He needs to fulfill his promise. I'm hearing nothing but severe criticisms of him here in Mass by people who voted for him. They won't forget or forgive.

2. There is a fine line between a quitter and a troublemaker. Kerry may not want to "make waves" thinking about 2008. But as far as I'm concerned, if he doesn't want to investigate these reports of possible fraud, then he's political roadkill. The soul of Democracy is the truth, and Kerry has to honor that before his own personal political agenda.

3. If we don't investigate, there is little if any hope that we will be able to mount a turnout like we just did. People stood in line for 10 hours to vote and we are willing to let their votes be thrown in the trash. Next time we need those voters they will stay home, so we are slitting out own political throats by not getting recounts.

4. If we don't demand recounts, the perpetrators will take it as an open invitation to commit the same frauds in 2006 and 2008. Kerry and the DNC are delusional. By not acting and fighting we are guaranteeing that all the setups will be in place for our future defeats and it will be a no win situation. We have to take a stand and fight now or else...

5. Elaborating on #4, recounts would serve to focus the national spotlight on the evils and unreliability of electronic voting. The measures in Congress to mandate a paper trail have been languishing for over 18 months. We have a small window of opportunity to act; if we don't we'll never get the electronic genie back into the bottle.

6. The history of voting in America is the history of vote recounts and rigged elections. Besides it's our Christian duty to recount the votes to insure that no crimes have been committed and the will of the people is being expressed accurately. The worst the Repugs could do is accuse us of being sore losers and we could take that charge and ram it back down their throats.

7. Even if the votes are recounted and the final results don't change we won't be hurt for trying. There is no evidence that fighting in FL in 2000 cost us any votes and it won't now. We have more votes to lose by not fighting and everything from a strategic political aspect.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:38 PM
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2. "DEMOCRACY IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT" ~ Howard Dean.
Get to work people, it's a quick phone call!

Script:

Step 1. Dial a number or send an email.

Step 2. Say or write the following:

"I would like Senator Kerry to look into voter irregularities in Ohio and Florida by requesting a hand recount of ballots in Opti-Scan counties."

KERRY WORKS FOR US, this issue is beyond HIM. It's about our democracy.

:hi:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:57 PM
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3. Email sent!
I sent an email - I will write letters too! Damn it, he has to pay attention.

Thanks for the link!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:07 PM
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4. Thank YOU. Just read this from Zogby and it makes the case really well.
http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10385

It is important that people know how accurate random sampling of historical events can be in order for them to understand how unlikely it is that the exit polls were wrong. So if you want to fight the battle correctly, you must get more statisticians and forensic accountants involved as well as the lawyers. These statisticians can show with great credibility the probability of manipulation within the computer programs used for counting the ballots. They do this kind of work all the time to uncover fraud based upon computer manipulation in commercial and corporate activities. And these types of expert analyses are admissible in a court of law. The problem with all of this is determining who is going to fund such an investigation. Where will the money come from? Perhaps the Kerry/Edwards campaign fund has some surplus that can be used. It is possible that the DNC has some excess funds. How about the 527s and PACs who spent millions on ineffective political ads, coming up with a few million? In addition, who is going to lead the process of getting this done? This kind of an effort requires solidarity along with an organized coordinated effort. It's easy to come up with the forensic and technical people to get this done, but we need a strong leader and solidarity. Leadership and funding-- these are the two real challenges that must be dealt with in the coming days. We have a Watergate story here that could give the media a post election explosive news story that could make the 2000 Florida vote debacle look like small potatoes. We need to get the media to see that votergate 2004 is huge news and we need to quickly fund the investigation and get Democratic leaders behind it.

John Kerry is who we voted for to "lead" us and he should do so! If he doesn't he best reconsider his thought of running again in 2008 because Democrats will not support him again if he hangs us out to dry.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:13 PM
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7. Yes, we must send them this article/link.
Did you happen to send it on to them mzmolly!

I thank you for your post with the link to the Senator. I may write him a letter or two as well! ;)
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:09 PM
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5. SEND THEM THIS!!
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liberal_powers Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:11 PM
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6. Kerry
John Kerry is a chivalrous knight, his/our opponents/enemies are the cutthroat types. Had the result been reverse, you know what they'd have been doing right now.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:24 PM
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8. Indeed I do.
Welcome to DU! :toast:
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:42 PM
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9. done. i've written him and am now about to go write to my local reps.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 09:43 PM by AgadorSparticus
dnc heard from me yesterday. any other suggestions? once i'm done, i'm going to compile a list of email addresses and snail mail addresses for the peeps on my list to write to as well. starting my own writing network on a very local level.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:19 PM
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10. Thanks, you may also check out my thread here.
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mom-mad-about-bush Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:27 PM
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11. I called Kerry's office today.
I called earlier today....and I would recommend to everyone to call Kerry's office and e-mail also. It is so important that we know the truth...the votes have to be counted, or we will all lose confidence in this democracy. We were told that every vote counts....so every vote needs to be counted.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:34 PM
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12. I called his office the day after the election
They would not talk to me, but instead told me to call his campaign headquarters.

Perhaps they will take calls now.

When I called it before he had conceded.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:53 PM
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13. They're referring fraud issues to the DNC, I said this isn't fraud it's
about irregularities and only one man can order a recount as far as I know.

I said they need to treat this like they would any other issue of concern, and that I contacted other members of congress as well.

:hi:
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