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Tue Nov-09-04 08:59 PM
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6 to 7,000 e-mails and Olberman caves............Fuck Him! |
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Fuck Him! We can do better on our own...we don't need him to survive...or Crawford or Turley (remember him from the Whoraldo Days?)
FUCK EM ALL! We will SURVIVE....ON OUR OWN!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:00 PM
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1. whaddaya mean 'he caves' |
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no cable here, thanks :hi:
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:02 PM
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11. He didn't. Period. n/t |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:00 PM
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2. Whaddya mean he caved? |
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He did a whole segment on what could happen if fraud is proven, and/or if the outcome changes.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:05 PM
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No, he did a segment to show that it's all just innocent mistakes |
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that these mistakes couldn't change the election, because bush won fair and square. that there wasn't any conspiracy to steal the election. that blackwell in ohio is will investigate but nothing will be found that makes any different.
olbermann is the worse kind of whore. he gave out a little hope, and got a few more rating points for it.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:14 PM
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45. When He Was Talking About The Impossible Coincidences... |
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I couldn't help but think back to The New Pearl Harbor and all the coincidences there. Incidentally, he had Posner on to poo poo that but Posner didn't offer any evidence just assertions.
All in all I wasn't too dissatisfied with Olberman though...It's Kerry I'm kind of upset with but I see his point if there wasn't something criminal...
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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3. How did he cave? The bastard he brought on caved..but he didn't! |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:06 PM
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30. he agreed with the caving crawford. |
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nothing can be changed from this mistakes. in the end bush still wins.
olbermann is a piece of shit in whore's clothing.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:19 PM
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51. He..well..didn't challenge Crawford as I would hope |
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But Keith is all I got right now. Let's continue to send those positive emails and push the rest of the media to blast this shit.:kick:
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:41 PM
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69. Maybe a "ok that was alright, now let's get closer to the truth" email |
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maybe he's dipping his toe in the water to see if it gets bitten off.
we'll see.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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I'm not watching what's going on, what happened?
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:05 PM
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27. He went even further tonite to explain the bullshit. However, some whimpy |
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ass bastard who must be afraid for his job...kinda acted like it was a laughable issue. Not good. But Keith DID not cave!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:11 PM
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42. Agree. That jerk Crawford made light of the whole damn issue! nt |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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Counter the emails...surely the Dems can do better than this?
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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6. He caved? That wasn't my read on it. |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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7. STOP THAT...you're acting like an ingrate and a |
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hotheaded jackass too.
I know you too long KO KO for you to be spouting this kind of carp!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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8. What are you talking about? |
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He blasted them yesterday evening and did the top of his show on the voter fraud. :shrug:
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:01 PM
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How exactly did he cave? Explain it to me. He covered the story two days in a row, when the rest of the media is pretty silent.
ABC talked about it too, although they called it nothing but conspiracy theory.
What's your beef with Keith?
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:02 PM
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He is about the only one speaking out, and seems proud that he is not one of the "wimps"!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:02 PM
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This is the only positive coverage this story has received.
Did you expect more? It doesn't work that way.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:07 PM
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He hasn't caved. He certainly is our voice in this matter. He may be the only one with any balls out there to do something about all this.He even said it went to the FBI and Congress is hot on it what else could you want.GEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS OBBERMAN :yourock:
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:27 PM
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56. Right! And I missed it, but I heard that Imus was blasting KO this a.m. |
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He's on the same damn network and dissing a colleague for at least having the guts to cover the issue. Why am I not surprised?
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:32 PM
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63. Imus is going be sorry if * stays in office the next 4 years ... |
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as old and dried up as he is (not to mention the dead brain cells from his abuse of alcohol days) he is going to need some of the benefits of stem cell research and real soon (some believe he needs it today). He is just a loud mouthed wannabee - he wants to be somebody, anybody will do!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:02 PM
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13. JIlted Lover on aisle 6, Jilted Lover on Aisle 6 please |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:12 PM
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43. LOL! Laughs Are Few & Far Between These Days & He DIDN'T CAVE |
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What the hell are you hyperventilating about, Jeez KoKo!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:02 PM
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14. I thought Turley basicaly said Kerry caved nt |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:03 PM
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15. Are you expecting a Mike Malloy figure on cable news or something? |
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Because if you think Olbermann is that or is going to be that, you're going to be disappointed.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:03 PM
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16. I was watching Keith Olbermann on Countdown, and you? |
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Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 09:03 PM by Catch22Dem
WTF were you watching? :eyes:
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:03 PM
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17. I thought he did a fine job myself. |
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He called out MSM for being whimps and refusing to cover the story. I get the feeling he thinks there is something to this fraud story.
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I don't see it at all. He has not come to a conclusion ... he is merely reporting the facts available and analysis of those facts. We are a long way from establishing proof of intent here. (But we have certainly crossed the threshold of probable grounds.)
He even raised the issue of why other news channels aren't chasing the story.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:03 PM
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20. They made it sound like more of a possibility then anyone else has so I |
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don't really get your gripe.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:03 PM
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21. Your rage makes you incoherent and perhaps blind. Doesn't serve you well. |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:04 PM
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22. I don't think he caved, n/t |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:07 PM
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32. Did I watch the same show? |
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He gave even more time to this issue tonight. I felt like he was issuing a "challenge" if you will, to the rest of the media out there to stop being wimps and cover this story.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:04 PM
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23. He didn't cave. He presented various views. |
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He himself said the machines could have been "hacked" and that would not require mass conspiracy.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:08 PM
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34. except that there was fraud involved. that it was planned. |
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all those views added together were nothing, just innocent mistakes, which if corrected still wouldn't change the results.
it was a false hope he handed out.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:13 PM
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44. I hope you're wrong. I send good vibes anyway. |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:04 PM
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He hasn't been able to vet ALL the information we update every few minutes. If it isn't vet-ed, he can't responsibly talk about it. He's done what no one else in major media has done, and he's promised to follow up. Rather than flipping the man off, you might suggest to him that he closely follow the findings of BBV.
He's doing something potentially dangerous to his career. Don't fault him for learning from what happened to Dan Rather.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:05 PM
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25. emails=22 to 1 to cover the story and they had |
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6000 to 7000 or 7500 ...I forget what he said but the total was in that area.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:10 PM
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I think 1500 yesterday and 6000 today. :-)
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:05 PM
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KoKo, you got some 'splain' to do. What'cha talkin' 'bout?
How did he cave?
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:06 PM
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28. Keith did ok because! |
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If he gets too lopsided on this the GOPers will scream "LIBRUL MEDIA"!
Now we need to turn up the heat on our own people in Washington and to try and get some pro Dem people on Keith's show! At least he's still giving us a chance to make the case!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:09 PM
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36. I think we should also email KO and tell him to cut the sensationalist |
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shit like Santa with no flu shot so people wont label him Heraldo. Then Give him the BIG thumbs up.;)
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....that's one of the reasons I like his show. You need something to make you laugh while watching America slide downhill.....
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:24 PM
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55. ya know, they're going to scream "librul media" ANYWAYS, so why |
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not go full throttle on them? they have their marching orders despite what anyone does or says. the only way they don't whine about us is if we stay quiet. that's what they want. and they will NEVER get it.
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I do get the impression he is a bit nervous about doing the story, but he is covering it and I am sure will continue to as more is brought to light. That is true journalism. You don't wimp out. I love the wimp thing BTW.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:09 PM
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35. Well, thanks for that hit and run post... where'd you go? |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:11 PM
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41. Yeah...wadidja do...go to the can while the man was a'talkin? |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:16 PM
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48. Apparently, KoKo caved... |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:10 PM
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37. KoKo, are you goanna respond to any posts to explain yourself? |
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I don't think Keith caved at all. At least he's talking about it unlike the rest of the whore media.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:27 PM
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57. I did below...sick with anger and rage.....been a media watcher a long |
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time..Olberman & Co...made me sick after all the effort...Hope it goes your way...with him.
See my post below...I'm sick about it...don't have the will to post the post #
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....he reported, as journalists are supposed to do several different irregularities, possible reasons, etc.....but he reported them, and definitly raised the question of why the media doesn't seem to care. And Turley most certainly seemed to point out there are grounds for challenges here.
Just because he didn't come on screaming "BUSH STOLE IT!!!!", and pointed out some pre-election frauds on our side doesn't mean he caved. He certainly didn't treat it with the patronizing attitude Jennings and ABC did.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:11 PM
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40. Whachu talkin'bout koko? |
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Keith certainly did not cave! I was really impressed with the coverage and it looks to me that he is on board with furthering the investigation into "irregularities"...
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:16 PM
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46. Somebody reassure KoKo01 that we all have our moments. |
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:16 PM
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47. Allright-- I call Bullshit on this thread |
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Stick and run like a rancid fart.
Gee, I though these types outed themselves during the election..
Keith didn't cave--
Peter Jennings on ABC was in fully 3 dollar whore mode, though with Jake Tapper playin the saloon piano.
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49. Me too. Wasn't Koko the one who ranted on and on about |
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moving out of the country if * won? Someone needs to start packing?
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:20 PM
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53. Yes. Bear...it was me who ranted on and on....my post is on Google Search. |
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I won't bother to give you the links.........
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:30 PM
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61. Koko, it's not necessary to give me any links. |
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Just concerned that you would come to the conclusion that Keith caved. I and, as you can see, many others just didn't see it that way! Listen, I think we all have been working very hard to do our part to further the investigation. Maybe we need to take a deep breath and have a little more patience? What say you? tia - bear
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:19 PM
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50. He totally trashed us...I haven't had TV on, but read his Blog posted here |
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on DU...I e-mailed him thanking him...I tuned in tonight (first TV view since Election Night when I turned it off.)
I don't say what I posted lightly....FUCK HIM/MSNBC and the REST OF THEM! I stand by what I said in my post. I have no regrets....It was a stab through my heart...what I saw there tonight...says we are dead...don't bother about recounts, because your candidate "John Kerry" has left you.
I saw some of this with Al Gore...but this is worse because we've worked so hard for four years...but the MEDIA is a WHORE.. I won't go into it more.
If you all disagree with me, then fine. I saw what I saw ...I interpreted what I saw from MY OWN experience ...
WE ARE ON OUR OWN! We can do without them...take heart folks here...we are the cutting edge...and in the end we will survive all this...
But...I won't listen to the Media Whore's for this...to be cut down..
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I thought the piece was extremely fair. If you watch Keith, notice, notice PLEASE how many times he keeps asking(with hope in his voice) that there is a chance, any chance, that the election outcome could be overturned. I've watched Keith for a long time,and he despises the Bush gang. Of that I'm certain.
I think it just hit you as it did me that Kerry is the one we need. And he has left us. I haven't given up the fight though. I'm not giving in. Even if I leave the country myself someday, I'm never giving up on America. Because this four year anomaly is not America.
I'm more pissed than I've ever been in my life. I'm not giving in, I'm not buying the spin "moral values". Bleech. Kerry wasn't good enough candidate. Bleech. I know what I see and the MEDIA doesn't change my reality that easily. I've sent money to blackbox voting. I've sent e-mails. I'm writing my congreesmen. I'm outraged. Voting is a sham in America. I read an editoral from Pravda and I agreed more with it than Newsweek. Newsweek went in the garbage-flat out. Epic victory=with propaganda like that who needs propaganda heh?
This show is the ONLY cable newshow I will watch. I would suggest you not watch any if this is your reaction. I understand. DemocracyNow and Air America are wonderful sources. "Mainstream thought" is delusional right now. It really is. But they can't have my reality.
Thanks for the chance to rant. It felt good.
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68. I haven't watched the media whores since election day. |
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Olbermann's show is the only one that I watch now. I want to cancel my cable but I may someday watch cspan again.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:20 PM
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52. Keith is playing it kewl |
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If he goes too far the rw will scream librul media.
He is trying to stick to the facts & NOT editorialize (like so many "journalists") do these days.
The fact that he is covering the story at all is good since he counts as major media. :evilgrin:
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:27 PM
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58. Oh good, I've been waiting for this thread |
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It was just a matter of time before Olbermann joined the ranks of the DU FU.
In the last week I've seen
Fuck Kerry
Fuck Clinton
Fuck the Red States
Fuck the DNC
Fuck the DLC
Fuck the Red States II
Fuck the Gays
Fuck the Christians
Fuck the Red States III
...I can hardly wait to see who's honored next!
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:29 PM
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59. I haven't participated in those threads...tonight Olberman DID SUCK.... |
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But...I'll leave off, because I don't need a flame war.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:34 PM
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64. And tomorrow he may NOT suck |
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But this place jumps on anyone who provides any reason for disappointment. Doesn't matter what he/she/it has done right in the past, one disappointment and it's fuck you.
Flame if it will make you feel better, but I wasn't flaming you. This place is fulla hotheads.
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67. Oh yeah, full of hotheads... unlike you. |
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Please point out my "fuck you" posts. I can't seem to place them.
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60. ???? I didn't see him cave. n/t |
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He had a jackass guest on the show who kept using the word "conspiracy", but Olberman continued to ask questions about "mistakes" and "fraud". The constitutional scholar seemed to be on our side as well.
Maybe you should watch it again, KoKo. Seriously.
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Tue Nov-09-04 09:37 PM
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66. C'mon guys saying "A herd of cats could have... |
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programmed those voting machines" doesn't sound like caving.
If the guy comes off like a total lefty conspircy theorist he's notonly going to lose credibility--he's going to lose his damn job.
Actually I'm surprised MSNBC's been letting him do this.
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