JohnyCanuck
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:42 AM
Original message |
British troops make Girls Gone Wild video in Iraq |
|
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 08:56 AM by JohnyCanuck
Squalid & depraved
By Neville Thurlbeck & David McGee
THESE sickening scenes are from the secret lesbian sex show video at the centre of a Ministry of Defence investigation.
The depraved film of two pretty girl soldiers performing degrading acts as drunk squaddies jeer them on was shot six weeks ago—inside a British Army tent in the heart of the Iraqi war zone.
But last night the two blondes and other troops involved—all members of the Royal Engineers—were being quizzed by the Royal Military Police Special Investigation Branch.
Top brass launched their urgent probe into the squalid show —which took place in Shaiba, near Basra airport—after the whistle was blown by an outraged soldier from another regiment.
www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news2.shtml If you are at work, link shows pics of girls in bras making out etc., but nothing really explicit
Edited to add: A warning for Mr. Ashcroft. One shot of naked boobs as well.
|
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:44 AM
Response to Original message |
1. The link is to a story with nothing to do about the posted topic |
nonconformist
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #1 |
7. Link worked fine for me. nt |
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #7 |
10. It sends me to a story about Cops |
nonconformist
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #10 |
16. Strange... it took me to the correct story. nt |
Democracy Died 2004
(366 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:45 AM
Response to Original message |
|
are helping to spread American values.
|
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #2 |
|
the Brits did anything like this EVER before...
|
charlie
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:47 AM
Response to Original message |
4. You might want to amend that warning |
|
There are nekkid boobies, which can get some people in trouble if they're at work.
|
rkc3
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #4 |
18. My boss just caught me looking at these pics - we're going to the |
|
strip club for lunch -- Thanks DU.
|
Dogmudgeon
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:47 AM
Response to Original message |
5. Depraved? Sickening? Degrading? |
|
Only if they're doing it right.
Those British chicks know how to par-tay.
--bkl What's it all about, Lynndie?
|
puddycat
(884 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
11. its pretty sick because they're having a great time while Iraqis die |
|
I think we should all be ashamed of how these troops are acting. Shameful. We are being told a pack of lies about liberation but clearly we are committing crimes against humanity in Iraq, and at the same time obviously British and American troops think this is just a whoop-ass good ol' time! DISGUSTING AND SHAMEFUL.
From what I see, there is no respect for human life in Iraq, not only no respect for the Iraqis, but no respect for themselves.
|
Dogmudgeon
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #11 |
|
... the War is what's really disgusting, depraved, sick, etc. But all the Sound and Fury is reserved for soldiers getting rowdy on their own time.
I don't get too harsh against the soldiers. Most of the front-line grunts are living a nightmare less painful than only the Iraqis. The "REMFs" -- Rear Echelon M.F.s -- are living high on the haram hog.
Mssrs. Bush and Blair are the ones who will have to answer for this ongoing atrocity.
--bkl
|
puddycat
(884 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #22 |
32. Isn't that like criticizing bank robbery but applauding robbers? |
|
I still maintain the best way to support the troops is to bring them home where they belong.
|
Dogmudgeon
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #32 |
|
Bush is the bank robber in this metaphor; the troops are accessories that have been pressed into service. Specifically, Bush's accomplice, Tony Blair, ordered them to take part. I'm sure they all volunteered for the military, but who volunteered for the war?
The sex show was after-hours stuff, and for some reason (probably more stress than machismo) it's nearly universal in wartime. I don't look on it as being terrible. It's boorish and un-military and a violation of the British military code of justice, but it's not terrible.
Turning Fallujah into a modern-day Guernica, on the other hand, IS terrible.
I'm with you fully on one point, though -- home is the best place for a nation's troops to be. Even in victory, warfare is a state of failure.
--bkl
|
underpants
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
|
Yeah not too hard to figure out what message they are trying to get out.
|
ET Awful
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:48 AM
Response to Original message |
6. So how exactly is it sickening? |
|
It appears to be completely voluntary on the part of everyone involved. Nothing sickening about it.
Sounds like the author of the article is a tad uptight.
|
charlie
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #6 |
9. It's the News of the World |
|
Gotta pump that salacious angle or no one will pay attention. If it's not SHOCKING, it doesn't sell.
|
DuaneBidoux
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #6 |
23. It's sickening because it is a foreign occupyer directly insulting |
|
everything profoundly sacred to the occupied country. In London, GO FOR IT! This is a total bs thing to do as an occupying force in a culturally and religiously conservative country.
It's like that picture of soldiers on top of the aircraft carrier spelling out "Fuck Iraq." Just bad all the way around when you're trying to win the "hearts and minds" of the people.
|
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #23 |
ET Awful
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #23 |
25. It's happening inside a tent, among consenting adults, they |
|
aren't doing it in front of any Iraqis, they aren't shoving it in the face of any Iraqis.
Sorry, but there's no harm done.
|
DuaneBidoux
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #25 |
29. As an anthropologists I don't buy it... |
|
The news will get back to the Iraqi populace. It's just poor form plain and simple. These people are in a tent, but that tent isn't there "by permission." Bad deal. Bad form, not classy. The fact you can't see beyond that is exactly why American's have such a tough time abroad.
|
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yeah it's not like the Iraqis |
|
who are pretty secular by ME standards, have EVER engaged in activity like this. This was not meant to offend anyone. Deal with it.
|
DuaneBidoux
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #30 |
31. Oh I deal with it just fine. |
|
You've still missed the point.
|
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #31 |
33. Your point was that it was patently offensive |
|
to the Iraqis. MY point is, it wasn't.
|
DuaneBidoux
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #33 |
36. Well, I guess we'll see... |
|
It will certainly, or at least likely, make it to al Jazerra
|
Hubert Flottz
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:50 AM
Response to Original message |
8. Morals are Oral! LMAO!!!! |
|
"Idiots"
"A regiment insider told us: "The Royal Engineers have been in the thick of every major combat zone for nearly 1,000 years and have a proud tradition.
"Everyone in the regiment is mortified that the actions of a few drunken idiots risks our fantastic reputation.
"We want them drummed out of the Army. We can do without them."
Don't Forget Poland!
|
NJ_Lib
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #8 |
13. Funny, I've never seen chick as hot as the blond |
|
in the army... Plus, I thought Europeans were less uptight than us Americans... Looks like Chimpy has gotten to them...
|
abaris
(16 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #13 |
19. Brits are somehow different |
|
They like explicit language, but they're pretty prude in comparison to the rest of Europe. Remember, they're living on an island, even if it's a large one.
But compared to the American mainstream, the Brits are pretty openminded. Don't forget, that armies don't necessarily mirror the sentiments of a society.
|
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #13 |
20. There are some pretty hot babes |
|
IN the US Army these days BTW.
|
OneTwentyoNine
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #20 |
26. Yeah !! Give me all your wet monkey love.... |
|
But wait...can't we at least feign OUTRAGE like Repukes did with that millisecond shot of Janet Jacksons boob??
My GOD I'm shocked,sickened,PO'd... blah,blah blah...
|
RivetJoint
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #26 |
SnowGoose
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:54 AM
Response to Original message |
12. So let me get this straight... |
|
"Coalition forces" kill thousands of people who's crime is being born in the wrong place, fine. But, they lop the top half off their IQ with alcohol, and film a consensual bawdy sexual escapade to forget the shit they've seen and the quote was "drum them out".
I think I've finally figured out that sex is the only thing that interests people. My mistake for thinking we'd evolved 'up' from apes.
|
nonconformist
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 08:58 AM
Response to Original message |
14. Maybe it's just because I'm one of those immoral libruls |
|
But if this was consenting (and it appears that it was) and done while they were off-duty, I don't see what the big fuss is about.
It does, however, again raise the argument of co-ed situations during wartime - although I have to think that consenting acts such as these probably go pretty far with relieving stress and perhaps even preventing acts of sexual aggression towards local women that have been documented to happen during wartime.
I tend to think of abuses at Abu Ghraib and pictures of babies with their arms blown off as being a bit more sickening and depraved... but again, since I'm just an immoral librul, what do I know.
|
They came for ME
(5 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:02 AM
Response to Original message |
17. Seem like crap to me - not a uniform in sight... |
|
Can't imagine many female British soldiers taking pink shorts to Iraq, not to mention the lovely red belt!
By the way, whoever wrote the article didn't look at the pictures:
"But last night the two blondes"
When anyone looking at the pictures can clearly see that it is a blonde and a brunette.
But who am I to question "The News of the World"?
|
skooooo
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 09:08 AM
Response to Original message |
21. puhleeze..who really cares? |
immoderate
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:12 AM
Response to Original message |
28. I am, ah, er, SHOCKED! |
|
Where can I get a copy of the tape?
--IMM
|
gatorboy
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 10:56 AM
Response to Original message |
34. *sigh* We get Abu Ghraib Prison scandal pics, They get lesbian party video |
Jack_DeLeon
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Nov-10-04 05:42 PM
Response to Original message |
|
what the problem?
Is sex and having fun somehow evil now?
|
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Fri May 03rd 2024, 03:16 PM
Response to Original message |