Average IQ: Blue X Red, I Rest My Case

[malatesta1137]

http://www.noblecustom.co.uk/bush.htm

[CBGLuthier]

1. I am just so overwhelmed by these statistics

I have decided to just start wearing my overalls and put a straw between my teeth.


There are three kinds of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics. ~Benjamin Disraeli

Disraeli was that there jewish feller what was prime minister of England.

OK, sarcasm off.

[Quixote1818]

2. Send that to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity! Air America!

[Nik Jam]

20. (made up on the spot)

Air America Listeners - 120+
Right Wing Hate Radio Listeners - Double Digits

[AtlantaBob]

3. I live in GA - I musta bumped up the average...

[JuniperLea]

4. hehe! yeah, probably...

but i know there are a lot of repugs in mensa... so go figure.

[hey560]

5. I saw that yesterday

It sums up the election...

Just thought i'd post the original site:

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

[gcomeau]

6. No way are those numbers right.

Sorry guys, but a THIRTY POINT AVERAGE IQ SWING between states? No chance in hell.

-Grant

[0rganism]

7. HOAX ALERT

Before we go any further with the proposed RedDumb/BlueSmart paradigm, you guys might want to know that humorist Bill Well takes credit for starting the IQ table hoax:
http://americanassembler.com/features/iq_state_averages.htm

Another site has state-by-state IQs, derived from avg. SAT/ACT scores:
http://sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm

Note that these are average test scores, not medians, and that the IQ score itself is arrived at by estimate, not by direct testing. The results aren't quite so dismal for bush supporters.

IQ and states    2004 vote   2000 vote

104 IQ

New Hampshire    Kerry       Bush

103 IQ

Oregon           Kerry       Gore 
Massachusetts    Kerry       Gore
Wisconsin        Kerry       Gore

102 IQ

Colorado         Bush        Bush
Connecticut      Kerry       Gore
Illinois         Kerry       Gore
Iowa             Bush        Gore
Kansas           Bush        Bush
Minnesota        Kerry       Gore
Montana          Bush        Bush
Nebraska         Bush        Bush
North Dakota     Bush        Bush
Oklahoma         Bush        Bush
Vermont          Kerry       Gore
Washington       Kerry       Gore

101 IQ

Alaska           Bush        Bush
Maryland         Kerry       Gore
Michigan         Kerry       Gore
Missouri         Bush        Bush
New York         Kerry       Gore
Ohio             Bush?       Bush
Utah             Bush        Bush
Wyoming          Bush        Bush

100 IQ

Arizona          Bush        Bush
California       Kerry       Gore
Idaho            Bush        Bush
Maine            Kerry       Gore
Nevada           Bush        Bush
New Jersey       Kerry       Gore
Pennsylvania     Kerry       Gore
Rhode Island     Kerry       Gore
South Dakota     Bush        Bush
Virginia         Bush        Bush
West Virginia    Bush        Bush

99 IQ

Delaware         Kerry       Gore
Hawaii           Kerry       Gore
Indiana          Bush        Bush

98 IQ

Florida          Bush?       Bush? 
Arkansas         Bush        Bush

97 IQ

Alabama          Bush        Bush
Georgia          Bush        Bush
Kentucky         Bush        Bush
Louisiana        Bush        Bush
North Carolina   Bush        Bush
Tennessee        Bush        Bush
Texas            Bush        Bush

96 IQ

New Mexico       Bush        Gore? 

95 IQ

D.C.             Kerry       Gore

94 IQ

Mississippi      Bush        Bush
South Carolina   Bush        Bush

http://sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm

[mark414]

8. is 100 the national average?

that sounds so low...

[0rganism]

12. 100 is the normalized average IQ

IQ tests are designed in such a way that a person of average intelligence should score about 100.

[CBGLuthier]

10. Thanks for a reasoned and researched reply

As opposed to my own sarcasm flavored diatribe. :-)

[0rganism]

15. The sooner we stop the insults, the sooner we can start winning again

Calling republicans and southerners stupid is not going to help our cause.

The more the phoney IQ table propagates, the harder it gets for us to make inroads among people who are our natural economic allies.

[malatesta1137]

17. who called Republicans stupid?

I didn't see the word stupid attached to red states on the chart, you are the one calling them stupid.

[0rganism]

19. IQ Table itself implicitly calls them stupid, putting most reds in low 90s

You don't think people are meant to infer it when they see the chart? Good grief. What reconciliation can come of saying Mississippi has an average 85 IQ?

> you are the one calling them stupid.

Where? When? I just said propagating a nasty hoax insult won't help us at all.

Why the fuck are you picking a fight with me?

[malatesta1137]

21. who's picking a fight?

how can someone who uses the F word so freely can preach others on 'reconciliation'. What a joke.

[Gyre]

11. There is no way that Oregon is 103.

:)

[0rganism]

14. Eh? How's that?

Understand how this statistic is derived. This is based on SAT/ACT scores of residents. There's an imperfect correlation between scores of SAT/ACT tests and scores on actual IQ tests.

[SoCalDem]

18. Why did they stop at 100?? Our family has some in the 150+

and we all voted Kerry :)

[kayell]

9. One thing you should be aware of with the "IQ" stats -

the tests are skewed against minorities such as blacks and hispanics to begin with. Many Red states have large minority populations who vote solid blue, but bring down the "IQ" stats on average because of the skewing of the tests.

Also, Red states typically are poorer - also effects test performance. And education levels are poorer - effecting test performance.

To give credence to the value of this ranking, you would have to believe that IQ tests actually measure innate intelligence, rather than knowledge. And there is plenty of evidence out there that IQ tests are highly biased.

[mark414]

13. good point to raise

re: the bias of not only IQ tests but all standardized tests

that's perhaps the biggest flaw in No Child Left Behind, apart from it not even being funded

you can't measure performance on one or two standard tests...it's just ridiculous

[CBGLuthier]

16. website with some good info on IQs

I too think that the standard tests are not the best measure of true intelligence but for what it's worth.

http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/IQBasics.html