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Thu Nov-11-04 09:21 PM
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Poll question: Which of these 'Tin Foil hat' theories do you actually think are true? |
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Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:23 PM by UpsideDownFlag
i'm a JFK assassination man myself.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:22 PM
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I think LIHOP is possible, but I don't believe MIHOP.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:23 PM
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Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:24 PM by spatlese
On edit: I can't count :P
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:29 PM
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1,2,3, 6. And all done by the same crowd.
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:14 PM
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:29 PM
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Varying degrees.
I definitely believe the Oswald thing, I'm weakest on K/B Skull partnership.
I could see either MIHOP or LIHOP.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:40 PM
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13. Kerry's response today (nearly) firmed up #4 for me |
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Last week I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and try to be patient to see what he was gonna do, but it's been over a week, dammit. The S&B accusation is looking more and more plausible. I hope Kerry proves me wrong.
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:17 PM
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23. Yeah, number 4 is well-confirmed |
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Not a conspiracy theory. And I have a friend who thought democracy was dead long ago and moved to Canada last month. I'm beginning to believe he was right.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:30 PM
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5. They're all true damnit. (nt) |
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:31 PM
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7. That was my thought. n/t |
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:31 PM
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6. can we add a "none of the above" choice? |
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:32 PM
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8. no. if you dont believe in any, than this isnt a thread for you to vote |
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:33 PM
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9. LIHOP and Kennedy and Theft 2000/2004 for sure. I think Wellstone's |
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death was a tragic accident, although if facts came to light to prove otherwise, it would not surprise me (nothing these shameless fuckers does surprises me anymore, they are just too filthy to put anything past them.)
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:48 PM
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16. the jury is still out for wellstone as far as i'm concerned.. |
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Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:49 PM by frylock
because the co-pilot/Florida flight school (9-11) connection is awful fishy. Probably just another one of those strange coincidences.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:33 PM
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:34 PM
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I'm not one of the "aluminum beanie hat" club.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:50 PM
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17. then as i said above, this thread isn't for you. |
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:59 PM
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19. Election 2000 fixed/stolen requires tinfoil? |
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Dude, I don't think so--the jury may be out on the rest but that is kind of a given IMO
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:16 AM
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42. I don't think it was stolen. |
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I think it was tight, the tightest in history. I do understand, though, why many think that it was stolen.
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:58 PM
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51. Aluminum does not work |
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Use tin foil, dammit, and the machines in your teeth will not bother you any more.
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Fri Nov-12-04 04:54 PM
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57. where does one get tin foil? I can only find aluminum. |
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Fri Nov-12-04 05:00 PM
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58. There is this pro shop in Kentucky.... |
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:38 PM
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except Marley - I don't know anything about that one.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:42 PM
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14. LIHOP and 04 election stolen. |
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Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:44 PM by lukasahero
Can we add the death of the guy who built the paper receipt voting machines? I think that was a "Silkwood"... Yeah, I know I'm getting my hat out now. ;)
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:02 PM
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And what about this one?
Dan Rocco He died on April 1, 2002, in a plane crash in Gainesville, Georgia. He was an executive vice president at ChoicePoint, the firm that gained infamy with their faulty "felons" list supplied to Katherine Harris during the 2000 election in Florida. As a result of this list, thousands of voters (mostly African-American voters) were wrongly identified as felons and purged from the rolls.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:48 PM
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15. How about an alt. poll on the following tin-foil hat conspiracy theories: |
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1. A bunch of guys in caves in Afghanistan planned and pulled off 911. 2. Saddam was linked to 911. 3. Saddam had WMDs. 4. Zarquari lives. 5. The limb-challenged Zarqari is the mastermind behind the Iraqi chaos. 6. The Iraq war is going very well. 7. Election fraud on Nov 2 did not affect the outcome. 8. The Afghanistan war had nothing to do with oil, gas or pipelines. 9. The oil issue is irrelevant in the context of the Iraq war. 10.The Iraq war will lead to stable democracy throughout the entire Middle East.
Oh dear, too many 'tin-foil hat' theories to list.
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:05 PM
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21. THANK you, Oblivious! |
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There are conspiracies on both sides. It's just that the govt. has the media on its side.
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:22 PM
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27. No one EVER calls them conspiracy theories when they're discussed on tv! |
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Shouldn't tin foil hats be a required uniform for Fox anchors? :freak:
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Fri Nov-12-04 02:36 PM
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55. O'Really wouldn't wear a tinfoil hat... |
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...it would impede his phone reception, which he apparently needs as badly as he needs his loofah.
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:59 AM
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45. I think by definition |
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Popularly held, commonly accepted ideas are not conspiracy theories.
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Thu Nov-11-04 09:57 PM
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18. 911 was a LIHOP and both elections were stolen |
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That isn't tinfoil that's common sense but I couldn't vote for both.
I also believe the Kennedy ass. didn't involve just one man, but that doesn't seem very current, so I also had to let that one go in this poll!
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:22 PM
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24. Oswald was a patsy-but the biggie is that 9/11 was, at a minimum-LIHOP! |
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:39 AM
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34. I can't for the life of me figure out what LIHOP stands for. |
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Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 12:42 AM by lizzieforkerry
It's very late. Can you help a newbie out? Most likely I believe it, whatever it is, because there is no way 9/11 went down like they say it did.
On Edit: Is it Let it happen on purpose? They always come to me right after I post asking what they mean.
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:22 PM
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48. Let It Happen On Purpose, Made It Happen On Purpose |
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i didnt know either for like 2 months.
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:25 PM
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25. Skull & Bones is not tin-foil, it is verifiable fact |
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And does anyone really believe that the 2000 Selection and 20004 Election were legit? I thought not.
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:11 PM
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26. NONE. Although they are both S&B men, American democracy is real. |
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The others are pure CT bull.
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:23 PM
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I'm always willing to listen to evidence to prove or disprove any of the above. :)
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:30 PM
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29. Other...the assassination of MLK, yes,.... |
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But the others I'd have to see a leetle more proof.
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:47 PM
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And Soylent Green is made out of people!
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Thu Nov-11-04 11:54 PM
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All of the above 'cept maybe not on the Marley one, mon!
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:11 AM
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32. ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!!! |
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:13 AM
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33. Define mihop and lihop. |
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:53 AM
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35. Does this involve the International House of Pancakes? |
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mihop? lihop? I'm not getting what these cryptic acronyms mean. Also, what is LTTE? MEME?
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:04 AM
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LIHOP: Let it happen on purpose MIHOP: Made it happen on purpose LTTE: Letter to the editor And I have no idea where "meme" came from (but I do know now that it's pronounced "meem" - saw that somewhere on DU recently...)
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:40 AM
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A bit of information that gets passed from one person to another, usually without analysis or thought.
Like "People support George Bush because he's the kind of guy you can have a beer with." It makes no sense, it's probably not true and even if it was, it wouldn't make a difference one way or another.
But it's easy to say and it sounds good.
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:57 AM
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36. everything but marley |
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and maybe the kennedy assassination. I'm thinking it would be pretty ironic if we finally find out that there was no conspiracy
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:09 AM
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38. Well, I don't believe that Bob Marley thing |
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and the fact that both Kerry and Bush were S&B doesn't impress me much (I grew up on a college campus and most secret societies are just drinking clubs for the wealthy).
I think that Oswald shot JFK but I also think he had help, and I'd like to know more about that.
I think that buscho allowed 9/11 to happen due to gross incompetence and maybe some wishful thinking as well which I think counts as LIHOP.
The election was definitely stolen in 2000 and definitely screwed around with in 2002 and 2004 and I'm hoping that something will come of the investigations because otherwise kiss democracy goodbye.
I don't know about Wellstone but I wouldn't put anything past bushco, going back decades.
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:22 AM
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39. Here's a rotten mess for ya... |
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"Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/09/1526251Heard this on DN the other day. Haven't read the book yet, but the interview sure is food for thought.
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:37 AM
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Mihop Wellstone likely assassinated Oswald not alone. American democracy is fake. No opinion on Marley/cancer. 2000 and 2004 definitely stolen.
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:54 PM
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Fri Nov-12-04 02:57 PM
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After reading "The New Pearl Harbor" and "The War on Freedom," pretty convinced that 9/11 is MIHOP. I don't want to believe it, and it isn't easy to believe it, but the evidence in those two books is hard for me to discount.
The timing and the circumstances surrounding Wellstone's crash are a little ripe for me. Juuuuust hours past the deadline when another candidate for his Senate race could be found. No, something reeks.
I don't believe Oswald acted alone; there is too much in the Warren Commission report that was omitted or ignored.
American democracy since the advent of paperless computerized voting is insecure. When the votes don't tell you the true and complete will of the people, the whole process is dishonored.
Quite frankly, couldn't care less about Bob Marley.
2000 definitely hijacked by Jeb, Katherine Harris, Scalia and all their goons; 2004, jury's still out for me.
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:38 AM
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For any :tinfoilhat: 'ers out there, please read 'Rule By Secrecy' by Jim Marrs.
Fascinating stuff on CFR, Bilderburgers, Tri-Lateral Commission, etc.
:hippie:
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:55 AM
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9/11 was a MIHOP. Wellstone was assassinated. (of course)
JFK WAS killed by oswald AND 2-3 other people who were never id'd.
Bush and Kerry are both S&B members, and american democracy is fake. - starting to look that way. giving Kerry the benefit of the doubt til January.
Bob Marley was given cancer by "FACTIONS" in the guvment.
the election was stolen in 2000, and definitely in 2004, you don't need to be a rocket scientist.
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:00 PM
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:12 PM
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Don't know enough about Bob Marley's final exit & don't want to believe Kerry's a strawman though there certainly are indications thereof. To the rest a resounding yes!
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Fri Nov-12-04 12:25 PM
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though I'm open on the 2004 election...
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Fri Nov-12-04 01:00 PM
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I'll await the investigation and further statements by Kerry, etc. I ha ve no problem with an investigation.
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Fri Nov-12-04 01:26 PM
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53. 2000 stolen - no question, 2004 not certain yet |
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We KNOW a statewide recount in Florida would have resulted in a Gore victory. I would say that it is very likely that 2004 is being stolen as well, but so far the case is compelling, but circumstantial.
We know there are statistical oddities We know that an unlikely number of "bugs" favor Bush We know there was voter suppression, but it is difficult to quantify We need physical evidence. We need transparency.
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Fri Nov-12-04 02:27 PM
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54. No question about it .....1, 2, 3 and 6. I |
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don't know enough about Marley to be sure. Small planes are one of their favorite mo's
I don't like the way this poll limited us to voting for ONE.
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