Folks, read this Hitler quote and help me out with present day quote

[PlanetBev]

if you can. Can someone post a similar quote from a familiar present day wingnut? I'd like to put it in a comparison e-mail and send it around cyberspace. Sound familiar?


"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-- in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past years."
— Adolf Hitler

Falwell, Dobson, Robertson. Same shit, different century

[greenman3610]

1. I want to share this. Is this sourced reliably?

is there a link?

[atreides1]

11. Source

The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol.1(London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872

[XOKCowboy]

13. I googled Christians liberal morality and got these links..

http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitlerchristian.htm

http://www.punjabonline.com/servlet/community.discussions?Action=doDisplayTopic&Tier=0&Param=16374&Category=7&Expand=0

This is VERY interesting and enlightening. I'm thinking of making a few "Does This Sound Familiar" posts....

[Sandpiper]

2. Is this an authentic quote?

If so, it's freakin' great.

[PlanetBev]

3. I just saw this on makethemaccountable.com

On the main page. (sorry, internet retard here, don't know how to link)

[Eric J in MN]

4. I prefer when quotes include a time and place (nt)

nt

[ConservativeDemocrat]

15. Any one of the following

http://www.politicalamazon.com/answers.html#12a
http://www.trinitypresdenton.org/contacts/pastor/sermons/encourage.htm


It comes from the following book:

Adolf Hitler. Ibid, pg. 871-872. By Michael Hakeem, Ph.D.

- C.D.

[Minimus]

21. see post 12

[PlanetBev]

6. Here's another famous quote from Mein Kampf

(So I've heard)

"We will put to rest the notion that a woman owns her own body. The practice of abortion will be exterminated with a firm hand."

Adolf Hitler

Anybody have a copy of Mein Kampf? Supposedly this is a quote from Der Fuhrer himself.

[Blue_Roses]

19. Mein Kampf is Karl Rove's favorite reading.

Imagine. That.

[intheflow]

22. Link to the full text

http://www.mondopolitico.com/library/meinkampf/toc.htm

I only did a quick search of likely titled chapters, but found no reference to abortion.

Although he does say at one point that prostitution is immoral--but really only for a man because women are passive during sex.

[DireStrike]

8. To link...

simply copy and paste the URL into a message.

[Rumba]

7. Citation

A google search turned up lots of hits, including one with the citation:

The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872

[UncleSepp]

5. Can't help you with a matching quote...

but consider what was meant by the quote you have. For example, the LIBERAL that you have in caps probably means "liberal" as in "apply sunblock liberally" (lots of excesses) or even something closer to "libertine" (pleasure-seeking excesses). It would be less likely to indicate political liberalism as Americans know it. I'd check against the German to see what the word was.

Just getting in the nit picks before your message goes out :-) Better from a friend than from an enemy.

[PlanetBev]

10. Actually, I didn't cap the word liberal

It was already capped in the makethemaccountable.com site.

[Eric J in MN]

9. here is a source

"The national government ... will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality." - Adolf Hiter, The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.


So apparently if we bought that book and turned to page 871, we could find out the year.

[PlanetBev]

14. I do agree we have to be careful before we send stuff out

But if we can verify quotes and times, these kind of things can be powerful tools in the next four years.

The horrible truth is, a Fascist is a Fascist

[Minimus]

12. Link for Hitler quotes with dates, etc.

http://atheism.about.com/library/quotes/bl_q_AHitler.htm

[PlanetBev]

18. Thanks, Minimus

Yeah, I can see he's ranting about Christianity.

Century after century, Jesus continues to take a beating. Wish he'd come back and kick some right-wing ass.

[Minimus]

20. here is another good one -

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.


I now believe in reincarnation, 'cause hitler and bush have way too much in common.

[AntiCoup2K4]

37. And the scary thing about that is that the timing wouldn't be that far off

Adolf supposedly died on 5/1/45. Junior was hatched on 7/6/46.

Now I'm no expert on reincarnation or Buddhism in general, but I do remember hearing something about a soul taking a one year "vacation" between lives. And considering that Junior always needs extra vacations, that extra two months would be within his character.

If it's true, then obviously he hasn't done shit to work off any bad karma. Instead he's piled even more upon himself.

Which means he's fucked from just about any religious perspective.

[UncleSepp]

38. Relax... or maybe not

I don't believe it's that easy to figure out who has inherited whose memories. Based on interactions with people who do believe in reincarnation, folks seem to change quite a bit from life to life. I'd imagine that if Hitler had reincarnated, he'd be scratching his head wondering why he has dreams about visiting the Volkswagen factory and getting married in a basement, or about why he happens to keep buying the same brown shirt over and over.

I don't know whether that's more comforting or more disturbing to think that ultimately the Hitlers and Stalins and Pol Pots of this world are just people made partly by who they are and partly by time, place, and random chance. It does encourage a person to treat every ordinary person as if they had the capability of one day changing the world, and that at least seems good.

[AlienGirl]

39. Very good point...

If we imagine that people who do bad things are inherently bad, are born that way, and never change from life to life, we'll close ourselves off to the possibilities of anyone changing for the better--AND we risk not noticing someone on the brink of doing bad stuff because they don't seem like a monster.

Tucker (who believes in reincarnation and studies forensic psych)

[ElementaryPenguin]

16. Yikes!! We're moving closer all the time!!

:puke:

[mmonk]

17. Looks like there is some interesting quotes

that I can send to my bishop.

[AndyTiedye]

23. bookmarking and kicking

:kick::kick::kick:

[Boosterman]

26. My advice

is to check the use of the word liberalism as another poster suggested. In addition just from scrolling through those quotes it looks like there are others that could easily be used.Think about how much more impact your message would have if you had about 10-15 quotes that were all things the far right would agree with and scroll down...and they are Hitlers quotes. Just my advice. :)

[renegade000]

24. Found it: Berlin, Feb. 1 - 1933

link: http://www.hitler.org/speeches/02-01-33.html

[greenman3610]

28. brownshirts for Jesus..

http://www.drawingblood.net

[rockymountaindem]

32. That would mean this is from what would have been his "acceptance speech"

as he took full command of Germany only two days before on Jan. 30, 1933.

[Eric J in MN]

34. Thanks, good work (nt)

nt

[oblivious]

25. Fom my Hitler 'quotations' file, taken from DU and other places

on doing God's work

"Let us pray in this hour that nothing can divide us, and that God will help us against the Devil! Almighty Lord, bless our fight!"
-- Adolph Hitler to the SA in 1930.

on ignorance and gullibility

QUOTATION:The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one. Especially if it is repeated over and over.
ATTRIBUTION:Adolf Hitler, German dictator. Mein Kampf, vol. 1, ch. 10 (1925).

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."
-- Adolph Hitler

"It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them."
-- Adolf Hitler

"Through clever and constant application of propaganda people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."
-- Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1923

on corporatism

"We stand for the maintenance of private property... We shall protect free enterprise as the most expedient, or rather the sole possible economic order."
-- Adolph Hitler

on the importance of eternal war

QUOTATION: Mankind has grown strong in eternal struggles and it will only perish through eternal peace.
ATTRIBUTION:Adolf Hitler, German dictator. Mein Kampf, vol. 1, ch. 4 (1925).

[malmapus]

27. Scary and a good find at the same time...

Wish I knew more to help out. Spent most of my time in the military reading up on the German war machine from WWII instead of the politics that ran it at the time =/

[TexasProgresive]

29. Another great quote.

"If the man's world is said to be the State . . . her world is her husband, her family, her children and her home . . . Every child that a woman brings into the world is a battle, a battle waged for the existence of her people.... It is not true ... that respect depends on the overlapping of the spheres of activity of the sexes; this respect demands that neither sex should try to do that which belongs to the sphere of the other."—Hitler's speech to the National Socialist Women's Organization, September, 1934.

http://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/speakout/steinem.html

[m berst]

30. the implications here

I hope that people can see the implications of this.

Some will say that this shows that Hitler was a Christian, and then say that therefore Christians and Christianity are the problem today.

It is much more powerful politically, and I would argue more accurate, to draw the inference that Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, and Bush are not Christians and are just using it, as did Hitler.

Once Hitler was firmly in power, he was all through with Christians and that was the last you heard about Christianity from him, and I believe we will see the same thing happen here.

[Must_B_Free]

31. One thing to check though

the key is the word "liberal" which would have been translated from German. It is possible that he mean liberal as in "a liberal helping of food" and not "Liberal" as it means in the modern political context.

Can anyone find the German language version of this quote for me?

[m berst]

35. auf Deutsch

So wird es die nationale Regierung als ihre oberste und erste Aufgabe ansehen, die geistige und willensmäßige Einheit unseres Volkes wieder herzustellen. Sie wird die Fundamente wahren und verteidigen, auf denen die Kraft unserer Nation beruht. Sie wird das Christentum als Basis unserer gesamten Moral, die Familie als Keimzelle unseres Volks- Lind Staatskörpers in ihren festen Schutz nehmen. Sie wird über Stände und Klassen hinweg unser Volk wieder zum Bewußtsein seiner volklichen und politischen Einheit und der daraus entspringenden Pflichten bringen. Sie will die Ehrfurcht vor unserer großen Vergangenheit, den Stolz auf unsere alten Traditionen zur Grundlage machen für die Erziehung der deutschen Jugend. Sie wird damit der geistigen, politischen und kulturellen Nihilisierung einen unbarmherzigen Krieg ansagen. Deutschland darf und wird nicht im anarchischen Kommunismus versinken.

http://www.ety.com/berlin/14jahre.htm

[sr_pacifica]

33. Hitler, like the neocons, was willing to use christianity

for his political ends.

In Hitler's Table Talk: 1941-1944 he is quoted as saying things like this (these are from private conversations):

"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When
understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine
will be convicted of absurdity...."

"Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why
someday its structure will collapse...."

"...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little
by little...."

[Vote4Kerry]

36. Great quote

Thanks

[RUDUing2]

40. some contenders

"It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-biased media and the homosexuals who want to destroy all Christians"
Pat Robertson

"There will never be world peace until God's house and God's people are given their rightful place of leadership at the top of the world. How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy money changers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?"
--The New World Order, p.227 Pat Robertson

"The strategy against the American radical left should be the same as General Douglas MacArthur employed against the Japanese in the Pacific... bypass their strongholds, then surround them, isolate them bombard them, then blast the individuals out of their power bunkers with hand-to-hand combat. The battle for Iwo Jima was not pleasant, but our troops won it. The battle to regain the soul of America won't be pleasant either, but we will win it."
--"Pat Robertson's Perspective," April-May 1992

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
--Interview with Molly Ivins, Fort Worth Star-Telegram, September 14, 1993

"The radical left is doing everything they can to destroy the moral fiber of America. They want to do away with the family. I am absolutely persuaded one of the reasons so many lesbians are at the forefront of the pro-choice movement is because being a mother is the unique characteristic of womanhood, and these lesbians will never be mothers naturally, so they don't want anybody else to have that privilege either."
--The 700 Club, May 18, 1993