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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:34 AM
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What Corzine (who opposes Rice) really said about her:
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 10:37 AM by AP
CORZINE: Well, unless there's some shocking news that comes out that I don't already know, I am virtually certain I will vote for her confirmation.

I will do that with some hesitation, not because of Dr. Rice, who I think is an honorable, intelligent, effective public servant. But I have trouble with the failures in policy that have occurred over the last four years, which she has been a central piece to. Our Iraqi policy has, I think, cost us in treasure and lives in ways that are not a positive for the American people. I think the failure to pursue the road map, which was a plan laid out, is also somewhat a failure of the administration to work thoroughly to accomplish their ends.

BLITZER: In your statement that you released earlier, you said that there was a tradition, a bipartisan foreign policy tradition for 50 years.

CORZINE: Absolutely.

BLITZER: You accuse the Bush administration, in your words, of replacing it with an ideologically driven, go-it-alone approach. If you're that concerned, why are you going to go along with Dr. Rice?

CORZINE: Well, I think, first of all, it is really the president's choice, subject to the advice and consent of the Senate.

I think whoever the president proposes is likely to represent those views. She actually is very loyal and close to the president. So, I think the votes are there for her to be confirmed. And, as I said, I think that both at an intellectual and conceptual level, she's quite strong. So it's not that I agree with the policies. I think we have to challenge those. But I think it would be a bit of a futile push.

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http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/16/wbr.01.html

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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:36 AM
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1. Of course she will be confirmed. n/t
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:40 AM
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2. Yes, she will be confirmed....even more reason to make some noise...
What do we (or dems) have to lose? What more are they going to take away from us? Of course she'll be confirmed. And I suspect many dems will vote to confirm her. But they should raise any and every question and make as big a fuss as possible. Precisely because they can. How are they going to be punished? If they don't take this opportunity to point out to the country yet again what this woman has done and how big a failure she is, then I wash my hands of it.

Raise every question, every lie, every quote, every example of partisan echo chambering she has done. Every way in which she failed. And then and only then say "Hey, if this is who the president wants, if this is who HE thinks is best for the job, he's got her. But she's his responsibility."

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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:41 AM
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3. Aug 6 2001 PDB: "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"
We were attacked on her watch.
She is incompetent.
End of story.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:46 AM
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4. Gosh thanks, Mr. Corzine
Really getting in there and fighting for us, isn't he? Sure, Condi's incompetent, a total ideologue who's gotten a lot of people killed, and who will squander a lot more of the U.S.'s treasure, talent and international prestige, but golly, I just can't see my way clear to doing anything other than voting for her nomination.

Fucking pink tutu-wearing little quisling. Get the hell out of the Senate and hand the seat over to someone who's more interested in doing the job. Fuckhead.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:51 AM
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6. A "futile push". Oh yeah, what can Mr. Corzine's poor one little vote do?
It wouldn't change anything. Oh, well.

I hope when he's up for reelection his constituents put together their one little vote and vote him out of there. Weasel.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:47 AM
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5. People need to be voting what they believe -not what they expect to happen
:grr:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:53 AM
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7. Four More Years of Impotence
Is there any reason to believe the Democratic party has not been rendered almost pathologically impotent as an opposition party?

So will it go for four more years? -- listening to impotent statements such as Corzine's (who I actually and surprisingly like) as the best Democrats can muster before they rubber-stamp Bush/Rove/Cheney's disastrous choices and policies?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:55 AM
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8. i don't know how i feel about this
maybe he's hoping -- and the rest of the dems -- for a greater disaster -- one they can lay squarely at bush' feet -- i don't know.
at this juncture -- i don't know what they are doing.
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green grizzly Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:15 AM
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9. Not much of an idealogue n/t
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