Gee, who could shine a powerful light on Bev Harris? How 'bout JOHN KERRY

[ElementaryPenguin]

He's got the spotlight of the world on him at this moment!! He may never have a greater opportunity to his serve country than by helping to expose the monumental fraud perpetrated in this election - a fraud that threatens to forever destroy democracy in America!!

If Bev & Co. get the ball running, Nader and the Greens open the door - does Kerry really even have a choice? For over a year now, he's told everyone what a great leader he is - and how much he cares for us all. It's time for him to show it. It's ALL up to HIM. I'm sorry, folks, but JOHN KERRY has got to step up NOW!!!

HE'S THE ONE PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO THE MAINSTREAM PRESS ABSOLUTELY CANNOT IGNORE ON THIS ISSUE!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. PATIENCE

You do not want that HUGE RADAR RETURN just yet on any REPUBLICAN radar

FYI the OH Democratic party today filed on elections...

It is slowly moving where Kerry can and may get involved.

(NIXON and 1960 geeze go google it)

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. 16 Days later.

Man, people got to calm down, think practically and tactically.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. More than tactical,

STRATEGIC....

Stealth works best when dealing with these people....

[ElementaryPenguin]

8. Is there really much time left - with all that needs to be done?

:shrug:

I'm very afraid that there isn't - and I have tried to be patient up to this point!

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. THINK of MULTIPLE and UNDER the radar fronts

Nader and NH recount

OH the Democratic just FILED in Federal Court on Provisional ballots and you have BBV people running

Florida, same thing

You think Kerry is not in this case, ok, whatever...

They are doing this in a very Nixonian way and very much under the radar... there is no overt coordination but at some level there is... maybe not with the BBV people they are our best Stealth right now

But Kerry cannot come out until they have the goods, end of discusion, or that will be the end of John Kerry and the Democratic Party. Yes this is what is at stake

Oh and gracie say good night to democracy.

Sometimes, as annoying as it is, we the little people do not need to be in the loop

Here is the term for you, OPERATIONAL SECURITY...

[ElementaryPenguin]

14. Man, I just hope to hell you're right!

I wanna believe that - and I truly have until this point - and now I'm pushing the panic button, in large part because I think because I'm experiencing a real loss of faith that there really is a plan here - and beginning to feel like a fool for believing there was one. (sort of like Linus in the pumpkin patch - waiting for the great pumpkin to rise.)

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Truth be told

I have NO FAITH LEFT in this country, or its systems of laws.

I have no faitht they will find the evidence (but I suspect this is what they are doing... not because I need to believe, but because they gave plenty of signals that this is exactly what they are doing, WITHOUT showing in any freaking radar screen... now they are about to with the OH demo party filing)

But they are also following a NON Partisan aproach, this is not about Kerry but about the vote... and that is wise.

But me personally have faith? No... I don't

Hence why I will not participate in this economy as much as I can, why there will be no thanksgiving, or for that matter christmas persents... and why I am into the boycott the economy FULLY


Oh and I know that hitting the panic button will do me no good or this effort... absolutely none.

Think BOSTON TEA PARTY, because taht is what we have left now

[ElementaryPenguin]

21. Their Achilles Heal

is the Internet - and they know it. It's the only thing impeding their onslaught at all - it, and a few of those surviving pesky things called laws!

[ElementaryPenguin]

4. I don't this slimey running out the clock tactic

To succeed again! But thanks.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. NOBODY IS RUNNING OUT THE CLOCK

but if Kerry comes out right now... that huge radar return will be use by ALL the media to lock on and SHOOT DOWN

You need to have the goods, you won't get the goods in the open.

[ElementaryPenguin]

11. That's been my position up until this point...

But I think Bev has just opened the Pandora's Box - and Nader's gonna do the same in N.H. - and the press is going to continue to ignore this, and the public...who the hell knows what they think these days - they certainly don't seem to have much of an attention span! Pretty soon - this stuff will really be yesterday's news for a great many - and that scares the shit out of me!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Look at the democratic party in OH filing

this means they now have some evidence.

THINK, it is gonna break and it is now just a matter of time.

[morningglory]

15. Thanks for the calming tone. "Geeeez" you remind me of

of the car salesman in Fargo: "We're working with ya!" And the wonderful policelady "Geez, money isn't everything, ya know?" Sorry, all this is with complete love and gratitude, and I need a laugh. I am from the deep south and "Geez" is comical to me the way "Supprize, supprize, supprize!" and "Goo-oo-oo-oo-leeee! is to you all good people up north. Have I made sense yet? It has been a long day. Thank you for being here. Some day we will say "Mission accomplished! Supprize, supprize supprize!" I love those actors I mentioned above, but am over 50, and it is after 5, and I have a little bit of butter slipping off of my biscuit, as we say down south, here. Oh!! William H. Macy!! Love him! and the female, I will have to get back to you on that one. Work with me here.

[ElementaryPenguin]

26. Shazaam!

:bounce:

[cornermouse]

20. Do you really think that Rove, et al, don't have someone

monitoring DU and anything else that could prove to be what he would consider a potential "threat" to Bush's reign?

I'm sure he knows exactly what Bev Harris has already looked at, plans to look at, and the where and when of the above. Ditto with anyone else that might be appropriate.

[ElementaryPenguin]

23. Of course they do.

And they must be shitting bricks about Bev in Volusia right now! They're busted!

[Vincardog]

3. I agree John Kerry you reported for duty Here are your orders

Get Bev Harris and BlackBox voting on the air. If you don't you are forcing us and our democracy to die a horrible death. The time is now.

[ElementaryPenguin]

6. It's now - or at the latest the beginning of next week!!

We can't let them run the clock out on democracy again!

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. IF and this is a big IF they have the goods

next week they will come out with them

If they have them in early December they will

The election is NOT OVER YET

But geeze louise GOOGLE Nixon and 1960 and then find out why Nixon did not challenge... but that was HIS GOAL

[ElementaryPenguin]

18. Haven't had time - but I will. Thanks

Didn't realize that Nixon planned to stay underground with his contemplated appeal.

[leftchick]

12. 'The Real Deal' appears to have been 'The RAW Deal'

I had a very bad feeling about him from the beginning regardless of all the pro-kerry threads. Eventually I believed because I had no other choice. FUCK!

[ElementaryPenguin]

16. Either we're in incredibly good hands

Or we've been totally had! I believed in Kerry and his fortitude - but this will be an amazing betrayal if he lets them get away with it - even after people like Bev uncover it!!

[leftchick]

19. I agree EP....

I keep thinking of people like Kristen Breitweiser, MJ Fox and Dana Reeves. All of those people actually had come out in such a personal heartbreaking way for JK. Kristen Had not flown on an airplane since 9/11!!! She decided to buck up and do it for the Kerry Campaign! It sickens me that the 'machine' would take people in like that as well as the common folk like myself. I just donated a few dollars I could not afford and MANY hours I could better have spent with my sons. SICKENING... :(

[donkeyotay]

22. This has been a very reassuring thread, but I agree with Elem Penguin

We will know soon whether we are in incredibly good hands - I mean, I'd not only take off my hat to Kerry, I'd take off my hair, or this is a betrayal of democracy that will go down in history.

I so hope the calm voices of reassurance are right. It's just scary because it is getting late... and we've seen how that works out before.

[ElementaryPenguin]

24. And I've really been one of the confident ones...right up until...

Today - or yesterday maybe. I started wondering where the John Kerry rescue cavalry was - and just exactly when it was showing up! And then it hit me...zap! Have I just been delusional? The "plan" sounded so plausible - brilliant really, on paper...

:shrug:

[ElementaryPenguin]

25. Just in case he really isn't inclined to pursue this...

I hate to say it, but I almost feel as if we need to pressure, yes, even shame him in to doing so! Edwards seems more willing. Geez, at least Gore fought as long as he possibly could - and had BEATEN the BFEE really - until the Extreme Court stepped in a made the selection!

[shance]

27. What a terrific point!

The DNC could help too, for that matter***

[ElementaryPenguin]

28. They all do - are we all

DEMAND our money back now!!