Any talk of a Democratic version of "Fox News"

[nytemare]

If there has been I have not seen it, but I think we as a party need a sounding board like AAR on the TV. It could have a show with Franken and Ben Stein.

[okieinpain]

1. what happen to gore-tv

[lindsayg]

5. Didn't Al Gore buy Newsworld International?

If you want REAL NEWS, watch that channel... ever since I got digital cable it's the only news channel I watch. It has mainly Canadian news (CBC), but there are also shows from England, Germany, and Japan, plus some documentaries..

[Eric J in MN]

22. it's supposed to start in 2005 (nt)

nt

[mikehiggins]

2. The left is too fragmented to do something like that

The advantage the right has is its lazer-like focus on bringing down the New Deal and the welfare state. What does the left have to match that? The right deals in simplicity, the left in complexity; which do YOU think is easier to sell?

Here's a clue. Bush is reelected.

[Roxy66]

21. I think the Liberals are more united than ever...sure there has

been some tension, and frustration...but I see a REVOLUTION coming on!

[UdoKier]

3. Al Gore is starting some pussy channel.

http://www.indtv.tv/

I say pussy, because for no good reason whatsoever, they have decided to avoid being political or any kind of advocacy.

http://www.indtv.tv/

Sad, because a Democratic (read: HONEST) version of Fox News is what we desperately need.

[ContraBass Black]

4. No, we don't need another Lie and Distortion Channel.

We have facts.

[DireStrike]

7. I disagree.

We need precisely a lie and distortion channel. 51% of the country (possibly) voted for that creature based largely on the lies spoonfed to them by the media.

[nytemare]

8. We really need to get our ideas out there!

We don't have to be dishonest like Faux is, but the deal is that Bush just got more publicity, especially through Fox, even though they were lying, people just believed what they saw.

The Soros-type democrats out there need to push something like this big time, an honest fact checking station of our own. Hell we could even have the people from fact check have their own TV show to fact check the other shows. Give the people a change and show them honesty. AAR has been a big success, and with Bush winning I am sure it will continue to grow. We need to ride this wave of people who are dissatisfied like Fox did in the 90's.

[AlFrankenFan]

6. from that site's faq (response to post #3)

2) Is this a political channel?
No

:eyes:

[DireStrike]

9. We could call it "Freedom news channel" -nt-

[nytemare]

10. Yes or Liberty news.

Sounds good :)

[JPace]

11. AWOL has used the "freedom" word so often I hope to

not hear it anywhere for a while. He has made it sound dirty.

[JPace]

12. We desperately need a cable news channel of our own.....

A big part of politics is to educate and persuade the people
to make wise choices. We are failing badly in this area. Yes there
are some great books out there explaining things in detail, but
honestly....is Mr.& Mrs. Red State going to read these books? The
people who read them are the ones who don't need any persuasion.
Mr. & Mrs. Red State do watch t.v. and like it or not they believe
a lot of what they hear. If we don't get our own version of Fox
News our politicians will never get fairly heard. Where are the
wealthy champions on the left? They need to be joining together
to finance this effort.

[Az_lefty]

13. Yes, it's called FreeSpeech TV

not available everywhere but comes as close as you can to DU.
http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/html/index.html

[Solon]

14. Got a name...

"Common Sense", think of the Thomas Paine, or, even better, the Socialist Newspaper by the same name from the early 20th century.

[Dr Ron]

15. Liberal journalists too honest

Fox is so successful because, despite being a channel to advocate a particular political view, they convince their viewers they are news.

Fox is to news in the United States what Pravda was to news in the Soviet Union.

Liberal journalists would not do this. They would provide objective news (or at least try very hard to--obviously some bias is bound to get in). If they did something like Fox, they would be honest enough not to call it a news channel, but would admit it is political advocacy. Once they admitted they existed to promote liberal viewpoints, they wouldn't have the credibility among the gullible which Fox News has.

[JPace]

16. "Liberal journalists would not do this"

Oh please...give me a break!
News with Democratic leanings would be honest! America is hungry
for truth and until we can get a mainstream news network out there
to give the WHOLE picture of what's happening in the world then
Fox is just going to keep turning Red States redder.

[Dr Ron]

17. Either you're objective or you are not a News station.;

Honest journalists would not try to blur the distinction between being news and advocating a view point.

We need to counter Fox, but I don't see it happening by duplicating their efforts on the left.

[Toucano]

18. Let's not compare any such venture to Fox, please.

Fox is a LYING mouthpiece for the right.

We (America) need a TRUTHFUL media outlet that will put the interests of the American people above the interests of the corporate advertisers. It just so happens, that will help the Democrats.

I have no interest in a FoxNews of the left.

[nytemare]

19. I am talking about a sounding board

On the television, that all folks can watch. If people weren't ignorant of the truth because of stations like Fox, Kerry would have won the election. We need something on the left to get this out there.

[Toucano]

20. Well, duh!

Clearly, I don't want people "ignorant of the truth". You're giving Fox too much credit, though. ABC, NBC, CNN, and CBS are just as bad because they're trying to imitate FOX.

An HONEST media outlet that everyone can access is clearly important. But we shouldn't compare it to FOXNews because they have no integrity. Regardless of being left or right, they're pathological liars.

I want no part of a Democratic version of FOXNews. But I'm all in favor of a TRUTHFUL media outlet that all people can access.

[nytemare]

23. Semantics

If you start another cola brand, it is going to be compared with Coke.

I have said in my previous posts in this thread that I favor honesty, the fact remains that Fox is the one to bring obvious partisanship to the news, and it has benefitted the Republican party greatly. There is a great amount of dissatisfaction in the general public against the administration and the way media is run by FOX and the like. This same atmosphere existed against Democrats in power and the media during the 90's, hence the success of FOX.

So, if we create a Democratic TV network, it will inevitably be compared to FOX, that is just reality. Hopefully, it would be CONTRASTED with Fox rather than comapared.

I could say I wanted no part in version of a democratic response or answer to Rush Limbaugh, but here we have AAR, and when people explain what AAR is, that is mostly what they say.

The facts were behind the Democratic party this year, and we lost the election. These facts weren't pushed hard enough in the media outlets that are out there. We need a station to get the truth out there. If the inevitable comparisons with Fox occur, so be it.