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mom-mad-about-bush Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:47 PM
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Is Bush blocking the release of 9/11 report????
I found this information on another site.....is this really true????

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Remember the 9/11 commission...they had their report all ready to go, allegedly with some very harsh comments about Bush and the administration, and that they were witholding release of it's copntents till after the election.

Well, the election is over and still ..no release...and Bush appears to be blocking the release, at this time.

Now why would he do that......

First, he probably has beentold to do, exctly that, by PRESIDENT ROVE.

And the reason, according to the NEMster Investigative Service (NIS), is as follows.

The report is going to contain some very damning evidence of the failures of Bush, and his administration, to protect the American people from the attack on 9/11. In fact, it is going to stop, just short, IMO, of accusing them of total failure...and perhaps, a main cause for it happening...

And, if this information is released BEFORE the electoral college meets on December 13th, well there just might be enough evidence to get several of the electors to re consider giving Bush their vote....that along with the possibility of evidence of voter fraud in Ohio, Florida and other states.

I believe, according to my confidants, that the administration will do whatever it takes to withold the release of that report for as long as possible...and that is why all of us need to implement an immediate media writing campaign to get it released, in it's entirety,. NO BLACK LINES.....NOW...NOW.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:51 PM
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1. I read today that there was an "extra" package delivered to NY AG
Several key documents were delivered Wednesday, November 17, 2004 by one of my associates / friends to the Senior Assistant to Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General of the State of New York. Some readers may not recognize that name but Mr. Spitzer is the person responsible for levying several billion in fines against Wall Street firms for a wide variety of financial scams put forth on all Americans but he focused appropriately on what was done to citizens of New York and the Pension Fund of New York state employees.

Since 9-11 was in part conducted upon the State of New York, criminal prosecution against appropriate parties is properly sited for venue and jurisdiction of such an investigation, a Grand Jury, and prosecution of the parties involved, some of which you will learn about as you read on.

A friend of mine from Connecticut went to Spitzer's office to hand deliver the materials and a separate package arrived from Europe by overnight courier...

We are not disclosing yet the names, companies, extent of the information provided for that would tip off where some of the information came from and possibly endanger those persons. Suffice to say, a blind man could follow the trail now that they know where to start, and where the trails end.

more... http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1045
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:41 PM
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2. I have been wondering WHERE the CIA report is (the one that "names names")
The 9/11 Secret in the CIA's Back Pocket
By Robert Scheer
The Los Angeles Times

Tuesday 19 October 2004

The agency is withholding a damning report that points at senior officials.
It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be delivered. "We believe that the CIA has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."

According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush.

The official stressed that the report was more blunt and more specific than the earlier bipartisan reports produced by the Bush-appointed Sept. 11 commission and Congress.

"What all the other reports on 9/11 did not do is point the finger at individuals, and give the how and what of their responsibility. This report does that," said the intelligence official. "The report found very senior-level officials responsible."

By law, the only legitimate reason the CIA director has for holding back such a report is national security. Yet neither Goss nor McLaughlin has invoked national security as an explanation for not delivering the report to Congress.

"It surely does not involve issues of national security," said the intelligence official.

"The agency directorate is basically sitting on the report until after the election," the official continued. "No previous director of CIA has ever tried to stop the inspector general from releasing a report to the Congress, in this case a report requested by Congress."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102004V.shtml

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There MUST BE A DEMAND TO RELEASE THIS REPORT NOW!!!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:25 PM
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3. The simple answer is: YES
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:50 PM
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4. I told my husband the only thing Bushco values is loyalty
and he said, that means all they care about is power. Appointing Rice and Gonzales. (Bush always gets compared to Hitler, I think Stalin is more like it)

The truth never happened. This is not here. We are verging on the surreal. It's almost fascinating to watch. Too bad it's happening in my own time to my own country.

The truth will not be revealed until someone of courage on the inside risks everything they have.
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chunkylover55 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:58 PM
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5. What are you talking about?
The 9/11 Commission released their report months ago. You can download it here:

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 09:05 PM
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6. Uh.. thats only the un-classified version
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 09:06 PM by walldude
Bob Kerrey made it very clear the day after the election that alot of the report will never be seen by the public. We will never see the "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside The U.S." pdb. Bob Kerrey, Bob Graham, and Richard Ben-Vineste have all at times made it very clear(if you read between the lines) that if the document had been made public alot of people in the administration would have had their asses handed to them. Also Bob Kerrey flat out said that the comission had to swear not to say anything about the report till after the election...
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:34 PM
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7. The CONGRESSIONAL 9/11 report was released. The CIA 9/11 report...
has NOT been released. It was withheld until after the election. :mad: It is the one that reportedly "names names".

There is also an additional chapter (Chapter 11, I believe), that is an addendum to the CONGRESSIONAL 9/11 report, which has been stonewalled.

We must see the CIA 9/11 Report immediately.
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clu Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:43 PM
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9. heh
the unanimous congressional report (aka didn't include details that both parties didn't agree to) omitted instances such as FAA tapes of the air traffic control rooms being destroyed by FAA management.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:37 PM
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8. Goss has evidently taken care of that
with his purge of the "liberals" in the CIA.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:30 AM
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10. Senate Intelligence Committee sitting on their report too
On Friday, July 9, 2004 the Senate Intelligence Committee released the first part of their report on pre-Iraq war intelligence. The report said most of the intelligence was neither reliable nor accurate and implied it was the CIA's fault. The second part of the Intelligence Committee’s report deals with how this faulty intelligence was used by the people in power.

The Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee voted to hold the second part of the report until after the elections, even though by July the second half of their report was 80% complete.

I transcribed what 3 Democratic Senators from the Committee said at their 7/9/04 press conferences (I don't have a link because I took it from what I recorded from C-Span):

Senator Jay Rockefeller: I have one comment I need to make, and that is that if we're serious about doing intelligence reforms, why do we have to be somehow limited by the fact that the leadership in the Senate and the House are saying that we're out of here after 20 legislative days? We could work through August. We can work through September. We can come back after the election. We routinely did that in previous years, often working up until December 22nd.
This is the most dangerous moment in American history, the most devastating event in American history was 9/11. And the thought that somehow we can't get this done before the end of the year simply escapes me as an adequate rationale to honor the families of those who died and to protect the families and people who are still living, but may be in a lot more danger.

Senator Ron Wyden: I think it is absolutely imperative that the second part of our report come out before the elections. The American people have a right to know how that faulty intelligence was used. The reason why is because bad intelligence and bad policy are not mutually exclusive. You can have both. I happen to think that’s what you had here. You had faulty intelligence that was then independently compounded by an administration looking for every conceivable rationale for going to war.
So, a lot of people in Washington are betting that part two of this report won’t come out before the election. I just hope that the Congress insist that it does, that all of you and others are aware that the heavy lifting for the Committee is still ahead and we have got to get that second part that deals with how intelligence was used out.
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It was really a question of basic math. We didn’t have the votes (laugh from Sen. Feinstein) in order to have them both come out together. I think it would have been in the public interest to have it come out together. It was just that simple.
I’ll also say though, that between now and November there is ample time to get this out. There is ample time to make sure that the two are linked.
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I do think that it is so important to the country - this question of how intelligence was used - that we’ve got to find a way to get this out. I think if people understand - first that its doable and how important it is - we’ll get it out before November.

Senator Diane Feinstein: I agree with Senator Wyden.
I think the great bulk of the work has been done. I think probably 80% or more there. The rest is just taking these findings and relating them to how they were used by the administration. That’s pretty easy to do because you have the statements made publicly and those statements had to be based on intelligence. The only, I think, question mark in all of this is are there things the administration saw that we didn’t see? I mean, we know the president receives a daily brief that we don’t see. Otherwise, if there are any other items that they have received that we don’t have, that will have to be brought out in this study.

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Senator Durbin (also a Dem on the Senate Intel Committee) wrote a piece about this for the Washington Post.

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37952-2004Jul8.html
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:31 AM
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11. 911 "Independent" Commission report not complete
At least according to FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds. She is under a gag order by Ashcroft not to tell what she knows. She has been featured on CBS 60 Minutes (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/60minutes/main526954.shtml) and did an interview with Jim Hogue for the Baltimore Chronicle (http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml)

On August 1, 2004 Ms. Edmonds wrote an open letter to the 911 Commission with copies to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senate Intelligence Committee, House Government Reform Committee, 9/11 Family Steering Committee and the press (bold emphasis is mine):

Dear Chairman Kean:

It has been almost three years since the terrorist attacks on September 11; during which time we, the people, have been placed under a constant threat of terror and asked to exercise vigilance in our daily lives. Your commission, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States, was created by law to investigate “facts and circumstances related to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001” and to “provide recommendations to safeguard against future acts of terrorism”, and has now issued its “9/11 Commission Report”. You are now asking us to pledge our support for this report, its recommendations, and implementation of these recommendations, with our trust and backing, our tax money, our security, and our lives. Unfortunately, I find your report seriously flawed in its failure to address serious intelligence issues that I am aware of, which have been confirmed, and which as a witness to the commission, I made you aware of. Thus, I must assume that other serious issues that I am not aware of were in the same manner omitted from your report. These omissions cast doubt on the validity of your report and therefore on its conclusions and recommendations. Considering what is at stake, our national security, we are entitled to demand answers to unanswered questions, and to ask for clarification of issues that were ignored and/or omitted from the report. I, Sibel Edmonds, a concerned American Citizen, a former FBI translator, a whistleblower, a witness for a United States Congressional investigation, a witness and a plaintiff for the Department of Justice Inspector General investigation, and a witness for your own 9/11 Commission investigation, request your answers to, and your public acknowledgement of, the following questions and issues:

Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0408/S00012.htm
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