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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:17 PM
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BBV: Dirty Tricks By Right Wing
VotersUnite.ORG has been one of the leading voting advocacy groups. We have been providing educational material and information to members of the media, elections officials, elected officials and the voter. We have been doing this for over ten months.

Now some Right Wing type has become active on votersunite.com. He is soliciting donations and has put up some mock-election. He has only become active in the past month or so and only after offering the .com name to us for $10,000. He then attempted to sell the name on eBay for a like amount. In his sales pitch on eBay he used the fact that we (.org) were an active, well visited webpage.

votersunite.com is not the place you want to visit for voting issues and voting information. He has pictures of shrub all over his website. VotersUnite.org is the place.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:19 PM
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1. Thanks for the info. n/t
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:36 PM
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2. Yeah. the .com site is arse-backward. Hope the confusion is short-lived.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 02:38 PM by Zan_of_Texas
Your site is GREAT John -- I tell people every day to go there.

I wonder if people should secure several of the names when they are starting a serious website -- .org and .com and even .net -- so that jerks can't foul things up like this.

Thom Hartmann has secured a number of similar names, since his is so easily misspelled -- even if people misspell his name, they all go to one website.
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:19 PM
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3. kick n/t
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:26 PM
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4. Here's some help kicking
:kick:
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:33 PM
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5. kick again because this Repuke is not going to skim off...
donations to VotersUnite.ORG
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Quick n Low Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:10 PM
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6. Anyone have posting capabilities at dailykos?
If someone could post here:

http://understandinglife.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/21/124441/35

Telling this person that supporting votersunite.com is support for an unethical slimeball and not the hard working folks at VotersUnite.org it would be appriciated!

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:18 PM
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8. I just posted at Daily Kos
that an internet vote won't help, and it's better to give to:
http://www.helpamericarecount.org/
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Quick n Low Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:22 PM
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11. Can you mention..
that the .com site is a fake and is profiting off the hard work of others?

Thanks.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:30 PM
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12. OK, I just did another post on .com and .org NT
NT
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:13 PM
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7. In January, when the election is truly over and
Christmas shopping is over, maybe we can chip in and help you buy the .com domain.
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Quick n Low Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:21 PM
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10. Unfortunately the damage may exceed money needed.
This domain was up for sale from the person who owns it, for $10,000, a few weeks ago. Apparently he's decided that he can profit off the coat tails of VotersUnite.org instead of continuing to squat on the domain and use it for his personal agenda.

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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:19 PM
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9. Looks like its registered to Edward Leon of Tarpon Springs, FL
http://www.whois.sc/votersunite.com

...I'm sure there's dirt/connections to be found.
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:51 PM
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13. Edward Leon is a real winner
Press release 08.29.2004

VotersUnite.com awards Michael Moore its first annual “Hypocrite of the Year” Award in a landslide victory over John Kerry. “It really wasn’t even a close race, in fact once Michael was nominated, it turned into a race for second place”, says Edward Leon a registered independent and operator of www.votersunite.com. Leon goes on to say “The choice was obvious, Mr. Moore redefines Hypocrite, in fact he was the inspiration for us creating this award.” Moore, the acclaimed director of the libelous (oops, I meant "slanderous") documentary “Fahrenheit 9/11” was nominated for his most recent work a sarcasm-soaked open letter to President George W. Bush accusing him of “attacking a wounded vet.” *

Moore, in his letter “accidentally” accuses President George W. Bush of supporting the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" ads, which attack John Kerry’s service record in Viet Nam. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is an organization consisting of Viet Nam veterans, who unlike Mr. Moore, were actually in Viet Nam. Some of the Swift Boat Vets apparently even served with John Kerry. The Bush Administration has repeatedly denounced their attacks on Kerry, and gone on to further say that they recognize that John Kerry served admirably in Viet Nam. This raises the question, “why hasn’t John Kerry denounced Mr. Moore’s Propagandist attack of our Commander and Chief? The question is not whether Mr. Moore has a right to attack out President, but should an elected official, who actually voted for the Iraq War, support Mr. Moore, by not denouncing him. If the standard of inaction amounts to support, as they falsely accuse President Bush of, Mr. Kerry's inaction constitutes support for Michael Moore's gross depiction of our president in "Fahrenheit 9/11. This inaction is the reason Mr. Kerry came in second place in our “Hypocrite of the Year” award.

The irony in this is that Mr. Moore attacks a group of Viet Nam Veteran’s, while accusing George W. Bush of attacking a Viet Nam Vet. Which Bush did not. Mr. Moore obviously feels that the Swift Boat Vets should not have the same right he does to slanderously attack a political candidate. And while votersunite.com does not support the Swift Boat Vets attack of John Kerry, we recognize their accounts are based on their own factual experience with John Kerry, unlike Moore’s subjective hate slanted “lack of factumentaries” about President George W. Bush. Let us not forget that Mr. Moore made his whole career, along with Millions of Dollars, by making a mockery out of America’s worst tragedies while slanderously attacking the Bush administration.

Edward Leon
www.votersunite.com
info@votersunite.com
(323) 363-5512

*Taken from a quote appearing on a Yahoo.com article
titled “Filmmaker Moore lashes out at Bush in scathing open letter”
http://www.votersunite.com/content.php?content.14

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Quick n Low Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:23 AM
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14. A real winner, who is really a loser.. n/m
kick
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desi826 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:35 AM
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15. So they've decided to fight back...
cause they realize we aren't going away and aren't scared of them.
When I heard that Jesse Jackson said "Bush won fair and square" and Obama said "let it go"I knew Rove called his corporate friends and told them to tell various Dems to use their influence to try to stop the rank and file from not accepting Bush's win.
It's time to bring this out in the open.
So this is good.
Des
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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:58 AM
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16. Remember we are .ORG
the right wing site is .com
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