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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 02:00 PM
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Condi's Phony History. Postwar Germany nothing like Iraq
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Condi's Phony History
Sorry, Dr. Rice, postwar Germany was nothing like Iraq.
By Daniel Benjamin
Posted Friday, August 29, 2003


As American post-conflict combat deaths in Iraq overtook the wartime number, the administration counseled patience. "The war on terror is a test of our strength. It is a test of our perseverance, our patience, and our will," President Bush told an American Legion convention.

National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice embellished the message with what former White House speechwriters immediately recognize as a greatest-generation pander. "There is an understandable tendency to look back on America's experience in postwar Germany and see only the successes," she told the Veterans of Foreign Wars in San Antonio, Texas, on Aug. 25. "But as some of you here today surely remember, the road we traveled was very difficult. 1945 through 1947 was an especially challenging period. Germany was not immediately stable or prosperous. SS officers—called 'werewolves'—engaged in sabotage and attacked both coalition forces and those locals cooperating with them—much like today's Baathist and Fedayeen remnants."

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Indeed, the organization merits but two passing mentions in Occupation of Germany, which dwells far more on how docile the Germans were once the Americans rolled in—and fraternization between former enemies was a bigger problem for the military than confrontation. Although Gen. Eisenhower had been worrying about guerrilla warfare as early as August 1944, little materialized. There was no major campaign of sabotage. There was no destruction of water mains or energy plants worth noting. In fact, the far greater problem for the occupying forces was the misbehavior of desperate displaced persons, who accounted for much of the crime in the American zone.

The Army history records that while there were the occasional anti-occupation leaflets and graffiti, the GIs had reason to feel safe. When an officer in Hesse was asked to investigate rumors that troops were being attacked and castrated, he reported back that there had not been a single attack against an American soldier in four months of occupation. As the distinguished German historian Golo Mann summed it up in The History of Germany Since 1789, "The readiness to work with the victors, to carry out their orders, to accept their advice and their help was genuine; of the resistance which the Allies had expected in the way of 'werewolf' units and nocturnal guerrilla activities, there was no sign. …"

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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 02:21 PM
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1. Mean while...
the Nasis were being smuggled out by the CIA to work for the good old US of A. Some even went to work in the CIA. I beleive most of the old Nasi regime was eather dead, hidding, in prisen, or snoping for us against the Rushans.

We know this becase more Nasi links to our curent administration keeps turning up.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 02:26 PM
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2. Werner Von Braun
The man who built the rockets that sent the US Astronauts into Space and then to the moon was once the Nazi scientist who built Hitler's V-2 missles.
A few German agents were smuggled out by us, but the Russians also took their share of nazi scientists and other people they felt were valuable. The worst of the nazis (mengele, eichmann) used a secret pipeline called Odessa to escape to places like South America.
The CIA was not involved with this at all.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 02:26 PM
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3. Condiliar is a better at propaganda than she is at protecting America
from terrorists. Since Tom Ridge's Dept. of Homeland Security is doing her job, she is free to be an additional spokeperson to join in the spin of Chimpy's failed Iraq policy.

Her fortunes lie with that of the Chimpster. If "CON"diliar runs for office, she will have a hard time defining the one term that will be associated with her failure to connect the dots, "traditional hijackings".
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 02:56 PM
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4. Is there anything the bush administration doesn't lie about.
If I just post that same message every time we find out about another lie on a significant issue, I'll have a high post count in no time!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 03:23 PM
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5. Paul Begala brought this out on Crossfire the other day
and said there were zero U.S. soldier deaths after fighting ended in Germany, Japan, and a string of other conflicts since then, including Haiti. I hope he keeps repeating it, because the other side is repeating the lie.
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