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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:59 PM
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Who said this quotation? Please help.
The one from the the Third Reich officer about making the people fearful of an attack while whipping up patriotism and using it to manipulate the public. It's a famous quotation I've seen here many times.

I need it and I've been trying to type in key words to pull it up on Google but to no avail!! Help please, thanks! :hi:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:02 PM
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1. Pretty sure it was
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 08:04 PM by jimshoes
Hermann Goering

Read more at snopes...

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:03 PM
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2. Thanks, that's it!!
"Why of course the people don't want war....That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Hermann Goering

That would be it ^, thanks again!! :)
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:03 PM
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3. Yes it was Goering and here's the quote:
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

Other people have said similar things throughout history including Caesar
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:04 PM
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4. Goering
" Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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mdhunter Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:04 PM
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5. here you go
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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mdhunter Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:04 PM
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6. Ugh, my ass is slow
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:05 PM
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7. LOL, nah, DUers are just quick!
:hi:

thanks anyway!
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:06 PM
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8. Is this it, mine herr?
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:09 PM
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9. Yup!
it appears the Bush administration learned much from the Nazis!!
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:51 PM
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10. Also, lots of cogent quotes from Mein Kampf. Hitler knew people too well.
1)Hitler understood that many people WANT a 'strong father' (see George Lakoff's Framing ideas) to tell them what to do because they don't know anything and are afraid of running their own lives. And violence was a useful domestic terror tool.

2)He also understood that propaganda could sell anything.
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1)"The masses of the people prefer the ruler to the suppliant and are filled with a stronger sense of mental security by a teaching that brooks no rival than by a teaching which offers them a liberal choice. They have very little idea of how to make such a choice and thus are prone to feel abandoned. Whereas they feel very little shame at being terrorized intellectually and are scarcely conscious of the fact that their freedom as human beings is impudently abused...physical intimidation has its significance for the mass as well as the individual...For the successes which are thus obtained are taken by the adherents as a triumphant symbol of the righteousness of their own cause; while the beaten opponent very often loses faith in the effectiveness of any further resistance."-

2)"Through clever and constant application of propaganda people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:54 PM
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11. Goering
Very famous quote of his, I think he said it during the run-up to Nuremburg.
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