Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Election Theft ok for country Novak says, all forum members

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:39 PM
Original message
Election Theft ok for country Novak says, all forum members
Found this on Commongroundcommonsense.org:


http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?showtopic=7648&hl=

"Novak Says We must accept election theft.

He told Jesse Jackson on crossfire today that it is ok for Election Theft to happen and we must accept it happen because it is for the good of the country."

I can't believe Novak got away with saying this!! We've got to do something!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:41 PM
Response to Original message
1. By the country's NON-reaction, I guess he's right...
Noone cares...not until after the Super Bowl anyway...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
22. We must march against Fox and the rigged election.
Not talk. Action. STREET action. Action in the STREETS. Huge public protest. A joint protest against the rigged election and Fox right in front of Fox World Headquarters in New York with the chant, “Rupert Murdoch, tell the truth! Fascists rigged the voting booth!” Fox is headquartered in mid-Manhattan on the SECOND floor. We’re going to be right outside their windows by the thousands screaming our guts out where they can hear us. Bad vibrations? Too bad studio soundproofing isn’t perfect. We must deny them legitimacy at all costs. Bush didn’t win. His election is a fake. Vast numbers of Americans still don’t know this because Bush shills like Fox cover it up. Fox must be targeted. Their headquarters are in New York. The other papers and media in New York will cover this protest because they all hate Fox’s living guts in New York. See this blog:

A Call To March On Fox
For refusing to tell the truth about the rigged election! —

http://acalltomarchonfox.blogspot.com/

Read it. Read it all. Contact the blogger there to get involved.

Go to this thread and participate in the discussion — A call to march against the rigged election — includes extensive discussion about the planned march on Fox/rigged election:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2688242

Add your comments there, keep that thread kicked. There’s going to be a huge march in New York combining protest against the rigged election and the Bush shills like Fox who cover it up, a double whammy. After that, the cat will be out of the bag and Bush will have lost legitimacy.

Why is that important? Because legitimacy is essential for de facto power. Official or “de jure” power is not enough for a leader to maintain control. He has to also have the INTANGIBLES of legitimacy — de facto authority. That’s why presidents can become lame ducks in their second term. Bush must be denied LEGITIMACY. His whole presidency must be publicly DELEGITIMIZED. People in other countries will hear about the march too. This will add to his difficulties diplomatically overseas. To deny legitimacy we must march against the rigged election.

Where? At the number one shill covering it up — Fox. Fox Headquarters in New York. Fox may or may not admit we are in front of their New York offices but the other New York news organizations will because they hate Fox. See the above blog for full details on that and the whole march plan. See and post on the above thread to get involved. Keep that thread kicked.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:45 PM
Response to Original message
2. You don't understand! Here we talk about religion and values.
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 10:47 PM by fshrink
Creation and breast-feeding. And all that kind of interesting stuff. Way more interesting than democracy going down the drain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. I just can't believe that a journalist
can be allowed to talk this way on MSM. I know that they distort reality all the time but this is much worst.

What Novak just did with his reply to JJ is to support and encourage the neocons to get away with anything they want to do cause it's good for the U S of A.

I mean do you think that his boss at CNN will do something?

I knew that Fox was outrageously bias but how far CNN journalists can go before getting reprimanded or fired?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:46 PM
Response to Original message
3. When was this said by Novak? It wasn't today. I didn't see the
show Crossfire today, but I just looked at the transcript. Begala and Carlson were the hosts today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. It was when Jesse Jackson was on
I did not see the show, but I read a bunch of angry bloggers comments about it at the website I linked to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:46 PM
Response to Original message
4. well I did something
emailed Crossfire
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Good
About to do same!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:51 PM
Response to Original message
7. Here's a link to another thread on DU about this:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:52 PM
Response to Original message
8. What country?
If there's election theft, and nothing is done about it, there is no country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Bingo!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:56 PM
Response to Original message
10. Please put a task request in Voting Issues in the Hounders task thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x4549

It is a place to alert those committed to hounding the media till they take this story seriously.

I think that it would help to use Novak's exact quote:
Oops..Site offline for maintaince..I guess you can find it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:15 PM
Response to Original message
12. A link to a direct quote?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Try this link..has a copy of transcript
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:19 PM
Response to Original message
13. No Way! I hate that common bread bastard!
He needs to stand in the snowy stocks for a few days for outting that CIA agent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:34 PM
Response to Original message
15. I believe this is the transcript
NOVAK: Reverend Jackson, in 1960, the first election I covered, they stole the election from Richard Nixon in Illinois. In Texas, there was a difference of less than 12,000 votes. And they took care of those very nicely. But Nixon never protested. They Republicans never protested because, in the interests of the country, they didn't want to have -- put the country through something.

You surely don't want some kind of a question of whether who won this election, when it's not 10,000 or 12,000 votes. It's, as Paul says, what, 136,000 votes.

JACKSON: Well, we should be better 44 years later in the counting of an election. I mean, if we can protest an unfair election, a questionable one in Ukraine, why can't we have a good one here in our own country?

The point is, there are court suits asking, A, that all ballots be counted. So far, Mr. Novak, all ballots have not been counted; 92,000 unprocessed ballots have not been counted; 155,000 provisional votes have not all yet been counted. And so to expect all votes to count is reasonable. Whether Kerry win or loses, let the winner win and the loser lose, but count all the votes. That's a reasonable democratic expectation.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/29/cf.01.html

Robert Novak, douchebag, treasonist, and all-around low-life
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. Same spin after the 2000 elections. The Republicans didn't want to recoun
because it would hurt the country. Will the sheeple fall for it this time around?

How does someone become a vile traitor like Novak? Why does he hate his country so much?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. he doesn't hate the country. It's all $$$$$$$
Bushco likes to deal in suitcases full of cash.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:18 AM
Response to Original message
16. See..? Already gone down the other page...
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 12:19 AM by fshrink
Looks like fellow Duers have become more interested in discussing ad nauseam angels' gender and creation (whatever that is) than to at least talk about what is happening to their moribund democracy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. kick this and keep on
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. It's amounts to kick up a medicine ball!
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 02:28 PM by fshrink
In fact, today's DU pretty much represents this country. The one who voted for "values" (whatever that is) over and above anything else. Well, you gotta bend to the majority, which seems, looking at DU, evenly spread between progressives and conservatives. Guess we'll have to wait for a few generations.

Edited: rescued from page 9... One last time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solitaire Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:29 PM
Response to Original message
21. What a moron. He should be booted off the air. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC