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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:30 AM
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Third Madsen article just out!! Discusses how vote rigged/Five Star!
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:33 AM
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1. why would Bush, etc. renege on the $29 million?
That's small change to them. Why would they risk their scheme being revealed over 29 measly million dollars? I don't get it.
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elepet Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:45 AM
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5. the check
Did i read that Madsen had a copy of the check?if so, how did he get it?
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:38 PM
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13. because bushco will fuck over whoever give Madsen's the copy
that's what they do, and Madsen is right in protecting a source
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:52 AM
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6. What if they planned to snuff out the techs?
Organized criminals sometimes orders a hit on its hitmen, when the target is high profile. Remember the Lee Harvey Oswald-Jack Ruby scenario? If they weren't planning to keep the techs around to tell tales, there would be no need to actually pay out the money. Just showing them a check that big ahead of the job would've been enough to motivate some serious hacking.

The question is: where are the techs now? On the run/in hiding, perhaps?
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:35 AM
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2. He thanked DU, too!

:thumbsup:
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:37 AM
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3. Wow.
That's some powerful stuff in there. And Bush represents "moral values"?
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 01:45 AM
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4. he is right about the backdoor
on the diebold machines...everything else is heresy
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:09 AM
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8. Well not quite right.......
.......:evilgrin:

Those familiar with the use of Diebold machines to commit voter fraud have revealed that the hardware and software used in Diebold machines used in casinos(?):shrug: and polling places is essentially the same, including the back door used to dial in over telephone lines to change payoff odds in gambling machines. The same mechanism was used to change votes, the sources contend.

There's so many things wrong with that statement that it's hard to know where to begin. :)
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:57 AM
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12. We had the Gems software here...
from black box running on a PC, and were able to dial in from a laptop and change results, and cover our tracks.

it was as easy as editing an email.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:01 AM
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7. he's so specific!
had to mention that the last two sentences of madsen's latest are amazing. this is the first we've seen anyone specifically detail out how they remotely changed the outcome in a machine.

not to diminish his step by step explanation of where the big money came from and how five star got its funding. marcos's embezzlements for heaven's sakes! and how the bushes used it as a slush fund for elections.

i sincerely pray that the techs involved are hidden away in a cloistered convent somewhere. i'm terribly rusty at praying but it's time to find mom's old rosaries and fire up a mantra.
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:19 AM
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9. A lot of specific "Fox-isms" such as "sources familiar with" or "some say"
That article read just like an episode of Art Bell. Lots of suggestion, not a lot of detail.

Certainly not an article I would put in front of a Freeper and say "see!".
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:22 AM
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10. You know I sugest you read the early articles
connected with Watergate... you will see them as well
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:34 AM
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11. great oak trees grow from little acorns
thanks nadine.
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 09:42 PM
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14. Fair enough... I guess I'm hopeful, supportive and skeptical...
Prepare for the worst, and hope for the best...
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:13 PM
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15. What a way to rule Steal Elections!!!
Romania
Ukraine
Texas and California
Ohio and Florida

Its absolutely incredible corruption!!!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:23 PM
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16. There are so damned many crimes indicated in this article,...
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 11:23 PM by Just Me
,...I just want to puke. God.
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