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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:34 PM
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What will it take?
Well many are asking why is it that the people are NOT out there protesting?

Why is it that the people seem not to care.

There are many good reasons... starting with the MSM which likes it this way. It follows with the power elite that just loves it this way... they are sedate Lord, they are like sheep Lord.

Yet, it is also us. Ok, ok, here we are in this nice, comfy echo chamber, talking to each other

Yes me too! Right ON!

Sh... here is a secret, we are in the hardest slog and fight of our life. While some of you are going, well let's run this person in 2008... i say STOP! That is nice, so you will get involved ONLY every four years. Ok, and leave this to the Marketeers


Look around, there are many around here who are very talented... but what it will take is YOU taking a leadership role IN YOUR COMMUNITY day in and day out

It will take going from door to door and educating people

It will take educating people as to the orwellian language they use... Freedom Initiative, ok, it truly means drugging initiative, the drugging OF YOUR CHILDREN without your knowledge

Clear Skyes means removing all the environmental regulations that benefit all.

In other words, talking here and typing messages is as inefective as going to a demonstration once a year or voting every four years. Granted you will feel great after that since YOU DID SOMETHING RIGHT? RIGHT... You need to be in the public square all the time...

Is this easy? Well I must ask, how much do you want it?

And for those of you DOING something, out there... please ignore this message.

:-)



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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:39 PM
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1. You make good points. But, don't forget that many Americans
can't afford to take off from work for political activism. You might think that they could. But, for those who are barely getting by financially, it's risky to miss work. There are other reasons also. It shouldn't be interpreted that those who aren't protesting are too lazy or too disinterested. It takes time. People are still having a difficult time with the thought the the President and his people are crooks. Once the rank and file realize that, all hell is going to break loose. Hello FEMA. Do you have your prison camps ready?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:42 PM
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2. That is the mistake you make
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 02:43 PM by nadinbrzezinski
People DO HAVE half an hour for political activism

You think iin the old paradigm of the Sixties, where people stand in a corner with leaphlets (This is needed by the way)

A political act includes silly things like engaging your neighboors in the elevator, or those at the line in the supermarket

Engagingn others in the public square is not demonstrating all the time, far from it

The best poltiical education can happen while standing in line gettiing your groceries... it does mean getting over your fear of the stranger.

READ any account of the early republic and what the public square is....
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:49 PM
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3. It doesn't matter how 'busy' people are,
they can still take the time to write a letter to the editor of their local paper. That is an excellent step to take, one I have already done myself and have advocated that many others do as well.

I want to reach people who I otherwise wouldn't talk to. Preaching to the choir doesn't get us anywhere.
Do what you are able to do, even if it is as simple as motivating your fellow liberals to speak - we need support from our own base. Pitch in when you can, write effective letters to papers in your area. Anything helps.
I truly do believe if the 59,000 DUers got on the ball to help speak out against bush (instead of arguing with each other and looking for constant agreement), it would result in some positive change.
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:24 PM
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4. I posted this summary of my take elsewhere, but it fits your Q ...
What concerns me is that we are getting a literal barrage of issues from one end of the spectrum to the other.

The Republican strategy is, admittedly, Orwellian. That is, in the sense that they intend to keep shifting the reality rapidly so that their opposition cannot keep up with it. They are accomplishing it in most respects.

Via revisionism they are trying to control the past. Via the media they are trying to control the present. Via legislation and Government, they are trying to control the future. That's a full house!

They are on a full tilt assault as the ultimate band of control freaks. They appear to be at “war” rather than participating reasonably in a political process with their opposition. War has different rules as Sun Tzu would clearly illustrate. I don't think we can enlighten them as to why that is wrong on so many levels.

So, it is no wonder that Liberals feel frustrated and upset. I don't say confused because, even when we are confused, we can still tend to think better, (more critically) than many of the common, manipulated wing-nuts who step into place.

We are taken aback? In Shock? Perhaps.

If you want to have a strategy, then the above has to be taken into consideration first.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:32 PM
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5. No,no the problem is that there is no coordination
at all

Look they are organzing, they have their message, here we do not have any organization

Actionn Committees have to be formed NOW

Action committees must start acting NOW

And we must take charge

But instead we get people going, but, but, I don't have tiime (the excuse of the century)

Or my favorite, but if I do something I will get fired, YES you may... fear is keeping you inside the Matrix

I am starting to see a pattern from movies, they are telling us what to do but most are not scratching them evne superficially. Need to get the Matrix and rewatch it, not reloade, just the matrix

Look what we need NOW are Metaphysical Societies, look it up, or masonic lodges, look it up... or the damn equivalent.

But we need to do something, I mean I have done some leaphteting the last two days, and I know this is just the first step.

I just got off the phone my congress critters, they were ahem a tad shcoked at the terminology I used... War Criminals, OWN the language... you know the drill.
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