WE HAVE NO LEADER. WE NEED ONE.

[AngryLizard]

That's what really bugs me. There is no such thing as a leader of the Democratic party. No one credible, with the balls to stand up to the Republicans every time, on every issue. On any issue.

I thought maybe Dean would be good, but the Party sucker-punches him every time. Republicans didn't sink Dean in the primaries - democrats abandoned him. Notice how you don't hear anything anymore about him becoming head of the DNC. He's too radical a face, I guess, when radicalism is JUST what we need. We need someone to call the Republicans greedy liars and cheats to their greedy, lying, cheating faces. We need someone to get up and say, "THIS WRONG", and keep saying it until it's perfectly clear. That is the only thing that has ever changed anything in this country. You have to fight for change, not "reach across the aisle." Fuck that, the aisle is there for a reason.

We need a firebrand, and we need one now. NOW.

Don't give me Obama, because he's too new and untested. Notice how you haven't heard anything from him, either.

Don't give me Hillary, because she's already bent too much in the wind.

And don't give me John Kerry, because he lost his potential status as our leader when he folded over like a wet paper towel the day after the election. He should have fought, he should have pressed that day for every vote to be counted, and said it loud and clear and kept saying it every day. We would have loved him for it, we would have supported him for it, and the press would STILL be talking about it. Voter fraud is not an issue that should be hidden on page 12 of the daily paper, it shouldn't be relegated to a conspiracy theory. The lack of outrage is not only heartbreaking, it's apalling.

Honestly, I don't know what we're going to do. Isn't there anyone out there with a spine?

[salinen]

1. Dick Durbin

[Kitka]

6. I love Dick Durbin, but a leader needs to show interesting in being such.

Also, a leader needs to have time to devote to organizing. We need him doing his job in Washington. I think it should be someone who isn't in active service.

[Hippo_Tron]

13. I've been saying that for about a year now...

Well at least that he should be minority leader. I even sent him a nice letter about how he should run for the job. I'm glad that he was chosen to be whip but he'd be much better in the #1 spot than Harry Reid.

[Neoma]

2. Go get famous and become our leader.

;)

[lilfroggy]

3. Not much to add...I agree. And Wesley Clark isn't the answer, either. n/t

[lenidog]

11. Hell no!!

No way Wesley should lead the party.

[Mojambo]

4. I'll do it

But I need weekends off.

[Ladyhawk]

5. I just posted something similar. We do need a leader. n/t

[Obviousman]

7. Nature abhors a vacuum

Either someone will rise to the task or we will continue to drift. Seriously, if the dem party would let some actual leadership take over things wouldnt be half as bad as they are now. As long as the 0/8 campaign strategists keep getting hired we will keep losing.

[Scrooge]

8. it will happen

Im hoping Michael Moore has lots of tape for his next film. I did hear on the radio today something about Ohio doing recounts. I really believe the grumblings are starting to get louder. I have to believe that.

[AngryLizard]

22. Yes, because we saw what a fat lot of good that did this time around

I'm sorry, but even though F9/11 may have energized the left, it also made Michael Moore a lightning rod for the right. And we still lost.

Someone in power who says "We're right and they're wrong." And keeps on saying it, no matter what they throw at him/her, what happens in the meantime, nothing.

All I know is Martin Luther King stood up and said "We're right, and they're wrong. And they burned down his house. And they beat his supporters. And he still kept saying it. And today, racism may not have disappeared, but it's nowhere near as acceptable. And schools are no longer segregated, and public places are no longer segregated, and pretty much everyone agrees that this is a good thing. Same thing with women voting lo those many years ago. Same thing with the Vietnam war. Jesus, same thing with slavery. And Roe v. Wade. Add your example here.

We need someone credible to stick to their guns.

[Geek_Girl]

9. Jesse Jackson

He's been completely demonized by the right. But He's courageous and outspoken. If your talking about a presidential candidate it's to soon to tell. But I think Clark is our best chance. He seems to be more outspoken these days and he's getting better. Don't count him out.

[Kitka]

12. No way.

Jesse Jackson is inspirational, yes... he always gets me very stirred when he speaks. But I have been to a Rainbow Coalition meeting. I've never been so embarrased for someone basically begging for money and trying to guilt people into putting money in the box than I have there. More energy was spent on "give us money" than was spent on actually organizing for change. Very disappointing.

[cyberpj]

10. PDA?

http://blog.progressivevote.org/index.php?m=200411

ACTION SUGGESTED TO REACH DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP
Filed under: Vision Dem. Party Platform— kspidel @ 11:20 am
Some creative and hardworking Kerry volunteers are dismayed that Kerry has just about vanished, and the Democratic National Committee (the DNC) has been really quiet about all the voting and counting problems with this election… Incredible machine problems have emerged (one in Ohio recorded negative 21,000,000 votes!) Lots of voting place hassles, misinformation, appalling waits, etc, have also been documented.

So, because they can’t get the Democrats to respond to them (one has gotten 2 funding appeals since Nov. 2, though…) these Minnesotans are suggesting that people who want the Democrats to come out aggressively as the Party for Clean Elections and Voter Enfranchisement send back their Kerry t-shirts, buttons, etc to the DNC.

They aren’t conspiracy theorists; they’ve just all been using computers (and cars, washing machines, etc) too long to believe that ANY machine is 100 per cent INFALLIBLE. And they want to assure CLEAN ELECTIONS and ACCURATE COUNTS in the future.

They’ve put up their suggestions and a creative form to send to the DNC at http://loyalopp.tripod.com/fairvote.html

PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG QUICKLY. LET’S SWAMP THE DNC!

FIRST THINGS FIRST. Without Election Integrity guaranteed, our democracy is DEAD.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. DNC Chair isn't a leadership position...

DNC Chair is a fundraising job, that's it. He doesn't steer the party, he works for those that do. Howard Dean would accomplish nothing in advancing his goals as DNC Chair.

[unkachuck]

15. forget the Democratic Party...

....they're made up of nothing but rich Capitalists and they will continue to 'shell-game' us in every election....just like the Republican Party only a little less smelly....why keep going to capitalists for your socialism?....

....nothing is going to change until we build something new from the grass-roots up....it'll take time, money and effort but in 15-20 years we'll have something....we've been living for over sixty years on what our grandparents/great-grandparents built during the New Deal....time to get off our collective a$$es and build something meaningful again....

[Chicago Democrat]

16. The Dynamic Duo...Dick Durbin and his younger ward Barack Obama

GO DURBIN!!!

Whip it good...

da da da dum

[egodust]

17. i'm a radical liberal and i claim bush's not to blame!

now, really, what kind of statement is THAT??

read on...

preamble: truth on earth now is stranger than john carpenter's worst nightmare.

our politicians--ALL OF THEM, domestic AND international--have been, are, and will be in our future, merely pawns in the greater game of the utra rich running the world: who literally own and control the World Bank, the IMF and the so-called "Federal Reserve Board," all *private* corporations.

i've heard about this over many years and finally stumbled on a highly verifiable document showing who's *really* at the global helm. i had no idea it was THIS extensive and all pervading, though! believe me, the following info makes michael moore's F-9/11 look like kindergarten material! and the only reason it's not being taken off the internet is that the network of individuals involved are insideously proud of their status as well as the fact they know no-one can do a hotdamn thing about it! i personally believe there *can be* a way to up-end their megalomaniacal institution. it has to do with a spiritualization process transcending the mass-hypnotized commercialized psycho-varmintized First World's attachment to the hollow-dregged glorification of material status based on the delusionary penchant for "the will to ego-power." (sorry for the hyper-poetic attempt due to decades sustained frustration...)

please understand, i am not anti-semitic. the jews, to me, are the single most gifted people on this planet, most of whom are extraordinaryily altruistic. unfortunately, the negative element among them are equally and by FAR--as you'll see--the most dangerous as well, to the point of representing a catastrophic threat to our survival as a species! i wish i were exaggerating. (it goes without saying, and i'm quite aware, that it's possible i'm wrong.)

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the following excerpt is taken from THE JEWISH TRIBAL REVIEW e-book, chapter 27, GOVERNMENT: part2:
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/27govt2.htm

(((THE JEWISH TRIBAL REVIEW e-book (entire document):
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/open.htm )))

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With George W. Bush's presidential victory in 2000, he appointed Zakheim -- "an ordained -- and meticulously observant -- Orthodox rabbi as Undersecretary of Defense and Comptroller of the Pentagon ... Another , Paul Wolfowitz, deputy Secretary of Defense, the number two position at the Pentagon." ("Wolfowitz," noted the Jewish ethnic magazine FORWARD as the U.S. invaded Afghanistan, "is the official whose feral-sounding surname and bellicose sound-bites have marked him as the administration's wild-eyed warmonger, the wooly counterpoint to that suave and sensible diplomat, Secretary of State Colin Powell ... He has also emerged ... as one of the administation's leading hawks and one of Israel's most important allies ... Mr. Wolfowitz is also a fixture of the capital's Jewish circles.")

Coming into the Pentagon with Wolfowitz was fellow Jewish activist Douglas Feith. As the Forward further notes:

"Mr. Wolfowitz and his associate Douglas Feith, an undersecretary of defense for policy, are known as among the administation's most hawkish members when it comes to Israel. With Rumsefeld, they round out a Defense triumvirate that has often clashed over Israel with Mr. Powell. Speaking to the Jerusalem Post last December, an official of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee commended both Mr. Wolfowitz and Mr. Rumsfeld for their 'very strong records on Israel.' Mr. Powell's team at reportedly fought the nominations of both Mr. Feith and Mr. Wolfowitz."

[bvar22]

19. Oh.....it's the jews....

...and all this time I thought it was the Knights Templar.

Silly Me.

[AngryLizard]

23. In the meantime, can we just get someone to rail against the war in Iraq

How the hell did the jews get into this argument?

I mean, if we're going to start blaming the jews for this, how about we start blaming Europe for everything, too? You know, all that conquering foreign lands and stealing their resources and coming up with fake borders, that have a lot to do with the global predicament we're into today.

I mean, if we're going for the non sequiter here.

[alittlelark]

18. Whenever a great leftie comes out he's toasted....

JFK, MLK, RFK, MX, JFKjr, Wellstone.... those w/ promise are erradicated by.... crazed gunmen and small planes.

<edited for freeper spelling>

[UpsideDownFlag]

20. DEAN......DEAN.....duh. nt

[KnowerOfLogic]

21. Yep, he really seems like the only one who's got a clue, and who

seems willing to stand up to the repukes. Still got my DEAN bumpersticker on!