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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:43 AM
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Why is there so much Anti-Olbermann stuff
He is on our side---he is the main voice in the media speaking about voting irregularities----he has informed millions of people

Just because he is in a spat with Bev Harris and the far left crowd here who think anything to the right of Che Guevera is a tool of the imperialist corporate media New world order.

Keith Olbermann has taken a lot of flack, and hey he's not perfect. But he has done quite a bit to publicize this issue and has been vilified and ridiculed and who knows what else to do it


And yet he keeps reporting---getting the story out, informing people of things they are reading or hearing elsewhere

Thank You Keith---I am sorry you are not a pure revolutionary.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:44 AM
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1. I think it's a couple of things
Some people idolize Bev Harris.

Other people are here specifically to stir up shit.
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:03 PM
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10. Walt, your second point struck a chord
I was on a cabaret barstool a few weeks ago, and a stranger on the next chair was crowing about his "shop" engineering the firing of a Kerry campaign staffer during the election. (Mary Bess possibly? I had a few too many by then). He was gloating that they created the appearance of a firestorm among rank-and-file Democrats, when really it was an organized group of GOPers that was blowing all the smoke and piling on. He admitted that he kind of felt guilty, because the woman was actually a decent person, a good worker, and others were more responsible for the screw-up that she was tagged with. Ring a bell with you?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:10 PM
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12. Yep, it's a standard technique of psyops used by the fascists
:shrug:

all ya can do here is hit alert and hope the mods "get it".
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:15 PM
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14. Did somebody actually get canned?
Or was the guy just BSing? I got the impression that his was a serious endeavor, using "imbeds" in Democrat message boards across the spectrum. The way that he would just run over somebody on a lark turned me off.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:31 PM
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17. I think he was trying to talk about Mary Beth Cahill
and no, she didn't get canned, but this is a technique used by these bastards to alter the way the Democratic Party operates.

On a lesser scale, it happens on DU to stir up controversy.
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:38 PM
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18. Thanks, Walt. I think that was it.
I googled your info, and am convinced that was who he was talking about. He bragged on and on how they roiled the Kerry operation at a critical time worse than the Swift vets by creating the illusion of party discontent. My blood was boiling about dirty politics, even though it was about 0.18 alcohol at the time. Thanks for clearing things up.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:47 AM
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2. Amen.
People need to stop hating and flaming on Bev/KO.

They are both here to help.

If their needs and methods are incompatible, then so be it.

This thing is where it is thanks to both of them.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:49 AM
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6. We need both harris and Olberman
they have done their duty and deserve praise
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:30 PM
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16. I agree.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:47 AM
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3. every group has its extremists
left/right even middle in some ways (those people who seem to never ever take a position on anything and everything are extremists too).
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:47 AM
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4. The recount is an emotional issue for those who think it'll overturn
the election.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:48 AM
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5. An effort to divide and conquer. eom
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:49 AM
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9. Exactly,
and the effort is a miserable failure.
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samwisefoxburr Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:49 AM
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7. I've been away from the news for the past few weeks, what happened?
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:49 AM
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8. Here, here. Keith is the man.
And I believe him.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:08 PM
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11. Because apparently some people always want to be in the minority party
n/t
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:14 PM
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13. Keith is the greatest thing since sliced bread!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:26 PM
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15. Don't feed the TROLLS kids. n/t
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:52 PM
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19. Who's dissing Keith and Bev?
They're two of only a handful of high profile individuals who have the integrity to stand up for the truth. Anyone who criticizes their efforts is expecting too much under the current circumstances...or has brain damage from extended kool-aid use.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:56 PM
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20. How many times do you have to get screwed before you get a clue?

That's the question I ask people in regards to trusting the corporate media.

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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:20 PM
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21. He's on our side to a point. He is still MSM
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